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#1

Hello all

      I'm a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million patients to date, I'm sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic wounds... these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you but don't get your hopes up. If you don't believe me, I really don't care. 

All the best,
Griffen.


#2

» Hello all
»
» I’m a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular
» matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
» extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
» world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
» regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
» patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
» terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
» skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
» wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
» but don’t get your hopes up. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.
»
»
» All the best,
» Griffen.

I appreciate your imput. By the way, where is the lab where you work from? I’m just curious because Acell has only been released for human use for a very short period of time. How did you manage to obtain the material and perform testing in only a few weeks?

Take Care,
Bill


#3

Hello all

      I'm a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular

matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
but don’t get your hopes up. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.

All the best,
Griffen.

That was a well written response… up until that little childish jab in the end. I’m willing to believe ECMs have little hair growth potential. I’m also willing to believe you’re a troll.

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#4

» If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.

I agree with you about acell, but that last phrase wasn’t necessary. BTW, I don’t believe a single word you have written and I don’t care that you don’t care :stuck_out_tongue:


#5

I don’t want to come across as a “cheerleader” for Acell. It may or may not work. At this point, we are waiting for the doctors to tell us what’s up with it.

As far as this post goes, I don’t believe it either. I feel this way for a few reasons. These are:

If he were a legitimate researcher, I would think that he would provide more information about where he works, under which doctor he works, ect. He would provide some information as a reference to prove his point.

His little comment at the end takes away from his credibility. I don’t believe anyone in the research field would make such an immature comment.

Acell has just been released for human use a couple of weeks ago. I don’t think that there is any possible way that it could have been obtained and tested in such a short time period.

I’ve never seen this forum member post here before.

I received this e-mail from Acell on 8/13/08 (5 days ago) and they have done extensive research with this material (for real):

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the information and for spreading the word about ACell. We are all eager to see if our product regenerates hair along with the other site specific tissues like we think it will.

When you read the above comment from Acell, it appears that they have some confidence in their product and this comment was made 5 days ago. Again, they make no promises, but I put more stock in what they have to say then anyone else at this point (until some results come back from the doctors).
Like I’ve said before, I don’t want anyone to get their hopes up too high either, but I think that we should just wait and see what the doctors say.

Take Care,
Bill


#6

» I don’t want to come across as a “cheerleader” for Acell. It may or may
» not work. At this point, we are waiting for the doctors to tell us what’s
» up with it.
»
»
»
» As far as this post goes, I don’t believe it either. I feel this way for
» a few reasons. These are:
»
»
» If he were a legitimate researcher, I would think that he would provide
» more information about where he works, under which doctor he works, ect.
» He would provide some information as a reference to prove his point.
»
»
» His little comment at the end takes away from his credibility. I don’t
» believe anyone in the research field would make such an immature comment.
»
»
» Acell has just been released for human use a couple of weeks ago. I don’t
» think that there is any possible way that it could have been obtained and
» tested in such a short time period.
»
»
» I’ve never seen this forum member post here before.
»
»
» I received this e-mail from Acell on 8/13/08 (5 days ago) and they have
» done extensive research with this material (for real):
»
»
» Hi Bill,
»
» Thanks for the information and for spreading the word about ACell. We are
» all eager to see if our product regenerates hair along with the other site
» specific tissues like we think it will.
»
»
»
» When you read the above comment from Acell, it appears that they have some
» confidence in their product and this comment was made 5 days ago. Again,
» they make no promises, but I put more stock in what they have to say then
» anyone else at this point (until some results come back from the doctors).
» Like I’ve said before, I don’t want anyone to get their hopes up too high
» either, but I think that we should just wait and see what the doctors.
»
»
» Take Care,
» Bill

Not only does it appear that they have confidence in it, but it also makes it pretty clear that there is NOT a body of evidence establishing that it doesn’t work. Doesn’t it seem logical that if it was known that it doesn’t grow hair then ACELL would have just said so in their email. It may or may not grow hair but clearly ACELL does not yet know that it does not, and they would if there were all these known cases of it not growing hair. Plus the last line of that guys post really made me think it’s just some 2-hole. It’s probably one of the guys here that is naysaying the thing. Does hanginthere naysay ACELL because if he does then pretending to be a researcher and sending that email is the kind of immature thing he would do, <>


#7

» I don’t want to come across as a “cheerleader” for Acell. It may or may
» not work. At this point, we are waiting for the doctors to tell us what’s
» up with it.
»
»
»
» As far as this post goes, I don’t believe it either. I feel this way for
» a few reasons. These are:
»
»
» If he were a legitimate researcher, I would think that he would provide
» more information about where he works, under which doctor he works, ect.
» He would provide some information as a reference to prove his point.
»
»
» His little comment at the end takes away from his credibility. I don’t
» believe anyone in the research field would make such an immature comment.
»
»
» Acell has just been released for human use a couple of weeks ago. I don’t
» think that there is any possible way that it could have been obtained and
» tested in such a short time period.
»
»
» I’ve never seen this forum member post here before.
»
»
» I received this e-mail from Acell on 8/13/08 (5 days ago) and they have
» done extensive research with this material (for real):
»
»
» Hi Bill,
»
» Thanks for the information and for spreading the word about ACell. We are
» all eager to see if our product regenerates hair along with the other site
» specific tissues like we think it will.
»
»
»
» When you read the above comment from Acell, it appears that they have some
» confidence in their product and this comment was made 5 days ago. Again,
» they make no promises, but I put more stock in what they have to say then
» anyone else at this point (until some results come back from the doctors).
» Like I’ve said before, I don’t want anyone to get their hopes up too high
» either, but I think that we should just wait and see what the doctors say.
»
»
» Take Care,
» Bill

Willy, I asked recently on here if it would make more sense to try injecting Acell into the scalp to see if it could rejuvenate the resting follices first, Before anyone thinks about using it as a way to make more donor hair. You seem to know whats going on with Acell so do you know if this will be tried by anyone or not.


#8

» Hello all
»
» I’m a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular
» matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
» extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
» world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
» regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
» patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
» terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
» skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
» wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
» but don’t get your hopes up. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.
»
»
» All the best,
» Griffen.

Even if I think (as a personal opinion) that ACell will not work, you’re still a fake obviously.


#9

Hello all

      I'm a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular

matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds at the most awesome super cool dude lab ever. I have extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with world leaders in this field like George W Bush and Dr. Bazan of Mexico. Although these materials have shown
regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
patients to date, I gotta tell you that they are super awesomely cool in terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
wounds… these materials will make you look like Elvis. Go crazy, drink some beers, masturbate. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.

All the best,
Blah.


#10

» Hello all
»
» I’m a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular
» matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
» extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
» world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
» regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
» patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
» terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
» skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
» wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
» but don’t get your hopes up.

Acell have not provided a shred of evidence that this works in humans & you haven’t provide a shred of evidence that it doesn’t work in humans. So we are where we have always been, nowhere! LOL
You haven’t mentioned who you are, who you work for nor have you shown us any clinical date to prove that this doesn’t work. If this really doesn’t work why do you feel compelled to come here & tell us? If you are so concerned about us why don’t you tell us who you are, who you work for & show us clinical data that this doesn’t work? Why? Because you are nothing more than a troll.

» If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.

Yes you do. You want us to believe that you are someone very smart & very important. That’s why you went to all the trouble to look for this board, become a member & post your message.

» All the best,
» Griffen.

All the best to you too.Thank you very much for your contribution & give my warmest regards to “the Game”,“Nathan” & the other “insiders” here who have provided us with their bullsh*t information over the years.


#11

» » I don’t want to come across as a “cheerleader” for Acell. It may or may
» » not work. At this point, we are waiting for the doctors to tell us
» what’s
» » up with it.
» »
» »
» »
» » As far as this post goes, I don’t believe it either. I feel this way
» for
» » a few reasons. These are:
» »
» »
» » If he were a legitimate researcher, I would think that he would provide
» » more information about where he works, under which doctor he works, ect.
»
» » He would provide some information as a reference to prove his point.
» »
» »
» » His little comment at the end takes away from his credibility. I don’t
» » believe anyone in the research field would make such an immature
» comment.
» »
» »
» » Acell has just been released for human use a couple of weeks ago. I
» don’t
» » think that there is any possible way that it could have been obtained
» and
» » tested in such a short time period.
» »
» »
» » I’ve never seen this forum member post here before.
» »
» »
» » I received this e-mail from Acell on 8/13/08 (5 days ago) and they have
» » done extensive research with this material (for real):
» »
» »
» » Hi Bill,
» »
» » Thanks for the information and for spreading the word about ACell. We
» are
» » all eager to see if our product regenerates hair along with the other
» site
» » specific tissues like we think it will.
» »
» »
» »
» » When you read the above comment from Acell, it appears that they have
» some
» » confidence in their product and this comment was made 5 days ago.
» Again,
» » they make no promises, but I put more stock in what they have to say
» then
» » anyone else at this point (until some results come back from the
» doctors).
» » Like I’ve said before, I don’t want anyone to get their hopes up too
» high
» » either, but I think that we should just wait and see what the doctors
» say.
» »
» »
» » Take Care,
» » Bill
»
» Willy, I asked recently on here if it would make more sense to try
» injecting Acell into the scalp to see if it could rejuvenate the resting
» follices first, Before anyone thinks about using it as a way to make more
» donor hair. You seem to know whats going on with Acell so do you know if
» this will be tried by anyone or not.

Hi Dogstar,

These are the types of questions that I wish I knew the answers to. At this point, I really don’t know that much more than anyone else on this board about Acell. I have posted all of the replies from Acell and from the doctors that I e-mailed. The only additional information that I have are names of people that have replied to me. I don’t mean to be secretive about things, I’m (as I said before) just not sure who would be upset with me if I posted their name, so I don’t post any of their names. Don’t take this for me having any “inside” information about this company.

I do think that your idea is worth trying, or at least considering. That’s why I posted the thread “Possible testing methods for Acell”. I wanted to develop a list of several possible testing methods for Acell (developed by members of this forum) and e-mail this list to the original list of doctors. I know that they’re doctors and we’re not, but maybe someone on this forum would have thought of some method that none of the doctors considered. Anyways, I didn’t get much feedback about it…so I scrapped that idea.

Take Care,
Bill


#12

» Hello all
»
» I’m a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular
» matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
» extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
» world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
» regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
» patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
» terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
» skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
» wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
» but don’t get your hopes up. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.
»
»
» All the best,
» Griffen.

Do you seriously believe an expert would make a statement like that… The only way I can see someone making a statement like that is if they wished it to fail because they have an interest in it failing and getting held up in legal fights so they can conveniently suppress, or they are a troll.

Anyway I think you are a troll. As it is known Acell ECM regenerates what local tissue stimulates it. And lesser ECM’s already have outstanding results in regenerating surrounding tissues.


#13

Advocacy group? Fail. Acell? Fail. It doesn’t surprise me that you’re leading the charge to attack Griffin.


#14

fck, the problem is that greffin is not credible, that’s all

the point isn’t if acell works or not, but who say that…


#15

» fck, the problem is that greffin is not credible, that’s all
»
» the point isn’t if acell works or not, but who say that…

Yeah, I strongly believe that this guy is one of the anti-Acell brigade with a new user name.


#16

you guys are insane … of course it doesn’t work! LOL
Why would a researcher even bother to spam this forum and tell you it doesn’t work ? Only dorks and blind believers like thegame or nathan would do so, but that’s the other way. Btw, if acell worked, we would know it already, and from various sources.


#17

This is one of the most pathetic things I have seen on this board…I bet this guy took his hot cousin to the prom and told everybody it was his girl…LOL…a true reseacher would give some references to the numerous publications concerning this research…I cant even imagine how pathetic somebody’s life must be to waste thier time coming to this site to do this…NOBODY is guaranting (sp?) success…but I cant understand why some are sooooo against even trying this ??? It really doesnt make sense to me…even if it cant regrow hair it may possibly be good for scar repair…wouldnt you want sombody who has been scarred up to be able to be helped ??? IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN ACELL JUST DONT BOTHER WITH ANY OF THE ACELL THREADS…ITS THAT EASY…

And Fckhrls…how’s that psycholigist practice coming ??? How many hundereds of people have have you saved from themselves…You stated in your one post that you have a “full head of hair” due to your topicals…If you have a “full head of hair” why are you even here ??? You must have nothing going on…really…we are all here to read about research in hairloss…apparently you are here for a social life…LOL


#18

» Hello all
»
» I’m a scientific researcher working with xenogenic extracellular
» matrix materials (ECM)including Acell and other ECM bioscaffolds. I have
» extensive experience with these biomaterials and have communicated with
» world leaders in this field. Although these materials have shown
» regenerative properties in a number of tissues and used in over 1 million
» patients to date, I’m sorry to tell you that this is not the holy grail in
» terms of hair loss. We have used this material in human patients in healing
» skin wounds, and there are publications regarding ECM use in chronic
» wounds… these materials will not regrow hair. Sorry to break this to you
» but don’t get your hopes up. If you don’t believe me, I really don’t care.
»
»
» All the best,
» Griffen.

I am sure you want to protect your privacy, why not email the moderator of this site to prove that you are really a scientific researcher working with ECM?


#19

» Hello all

» I’m a blabbity blabbity

» All the best,
» Griffen.

What I find odd is that this purportedly highly educated advanced research scientist neither knows how to spell his alias “Griffin”, nor the elementary-school level English grammar that teaches proper comma usage and that a a period is superfluous after one’s name in closing of a letter.

Who is this jokler and why does he apparently want to piss on our collective (somewhat shiny) pates?


#20

» » Hello all
»
» I’m a blabbity blabbity
»
» » All the best,
» » Griffen.
»
» What I find odd is that this purportedly highly educated advanced research
» scientist neither knows how to spell his alias “Griffin”, nor the
» elementary-school level English grammar that teaches a period is
» superfluous after one’s name at the closing of a letter.
»
» Who is this jokler and why does he apparently want to piss on our
» collective (somewhat shiny) pates?

With you guys posting offensive comments like this, I am not surprised no researchers would want to post their identity in the forum. You guys created your own misery. You can only blame yourselves.