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8% increase after one treatment

#1

I was browsing through som patents and found this one :
PHOTODYNAMIC THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF HAIR LOSS
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2008056996&F=0

Besides laser/light (whatever they use) they apply some topical before the treatment. Three months after only one session they reported an average of 8 % hairgrowth in a group of ten people. Dont know why they did not perform more than a single treatment, maybe that is all growth it is capable of.
If I knew who performed this perticular treatment I would consider giving it a shot.

#2

» I was browsing through som patents and found this one :
» PHOTODYNAMIC THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF HAIR LOSS
» http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2008056996&F=0
»
» Besides laser/light (whatever they use) they apply some topical before the
» treatment. Three months after only one session they reported an average of
» 8 % hairgrowth in a group of ten people. Dont know why they did not
» perform more than a single treatment, maybe that is all growth it is
» capable of.
» If I knew who performed this perticular treatment I would consider giving
» it a shot.

8 percent of what

if a guy has 1000 hairs he has 80 new hairs? would like to see some evidence , i do not think they have to prove this claim on the patent, you stated…THEY REPORTED an average of x percent regrowth.

#3

» I was browsing through som patents and found this one :
» PHOTODYNAMIC THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF HAIR LOSS
» http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2008056996&F=0
»
» Besides laser/light (whatever they use) they apply some topical before the
» treatment. Three months after only one session they reported an average of
» 8 % hairgrowth in a group of ten people. Dont know why they did not
» perform more than a single treatment, maybe that is all growth it is
» capable of.
» If I knew who performed this perticular treatment I would consider giving
» it a shot.

I haven’t gone through the entire paper in detail but 8% count increase compared with -1.7% in only 10 human males does not sound meaningful. Since the rest of their tests are on mice BODY hair.

Depending on who is doing the counting, say each 1cm^2 of scalp has 100 hairs. So you counted 108. vs 98.3. If you are just short by 1mm on one side of the square, you are already counting 10% less hairs. .9 cm * 1 cm. If you are off by half a millimeter extra on one side, you are already going to have 5% increase in your counts.

I can’t believe they are filing for a patent with only 10 test human subjects. but this is my first impression. if anyone has more patience to go through the patent in detail please correct my mistakes.

#4

» » I was browsing through som patents and found this one :
» » PHOTODYNAMIC THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF HAIR LOSS
» » http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2008056996&F=0
» »
» » Besides laser/light (whatever they use) they apply some topical before
» the
» » treatment. Three months after only one session they reported an average
» of
» » 8 % hairgrowth in a group of ten people. Dont know why they did not
» » perform more than a single treatment, maybe that is all growth it is
» » capable of.
» » If I knew who performed this perticular treatment I would consider
» giving
» » it a shot.
»
»
» I haven’t gone through the entire paper in detail but 8% count increase
» compared with -1.7% in only 10 human males does not sound meaningful.
» Since the rest of their tests are on mice BODY hair.
»
» Depending on who is doing the counting, say each 1cm^2 of scalp has 100
» hairs. So you counted 108. vs 98.3. If you are just short by 1mm on one
» side of the square, you are already counting 10% less hairs. .9 cm * 1 cm.
» If you are off by half a millimeter extra on one side, you are already
» going to have 5% increase in your counts.
»
» I can’t believe they are filing for a patent with only 10 test human
» subjects. but this is my first impression. if anyone has more patience to
» go through the patent in detail please correct my mistakes.

definitely do appreciate your posting tho.

#5

» »
» »
» » I haven’t gone through the entire paper in detail but 8% count increase
» » compared with -1.7% in only 10 human males does not sound meaningful.
» » Since the rest of their tests are on mice BODY hair.
» »
» » Depending on who is doing the counting, say each 1cm^2 of scalp has 100
» » hairs. So you counted 108. vs 98.3. If you are just short by 1mm on one
» » side of the square, you are already counting 10% less hairs. .9 cm * 1
» cm.
» » If you are off by half a millimeter extra on one side, you are already
» » going to have 5% increase in your counts.
» »
» » I can’t believe they are filing for a patent with only 10 test human
» » subjects. but this is my first impression. if anyone has more patience
» to
» » go through the patent in detail please correct my mistakes.
»
» definitely do appreciate your posting tho.

Thank you. I did not post this as a claim for a baldness cure, just wanted to share something I found a bit interesting.
I agree that 8 % is not much and that there are questions surrounding the experimental design, but still the results where from only one treatment. I wonder what repeated treatments could do? IF you even buy the whole 8% increase that is.

#6

» Thank you. I did not post this as a claim for a baldness cure, just wanted
» to share something I found a bit interesting.
» I agree that 8 % is not much and that there are questions surrounding the
» experimental design, but still the results where from only one treatment. I
» wonder what repeated treatments could do? IF you even buy the whole 8%
» increase that is.

Hi yeah, sorry if i sounded like a downer. just the kneejerk reaction throughout the years to anything reports.

Always reading the posts tho, for anything that comes up as good.

#7

Photodynamic therapy is used in cancer treatment. It destroys the cancer tissue.

It involves the administration of photosensitizing compound, which selectively accumulates in the hyperproliferative target cells followed by local irradiation with visible light of lesion. Eventually target tissue will be damaged by necrosis and apoptosis - This is how it works in cancer treatment.

I am not able to understand how it is effective in hair loss when its action is primarily- destruction.