You guys need to calm down about Acell

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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» »
» »" Anyway - thanks for the warning Commanderfink. So I think we all
» should
» » consider a nicely BHT by Dr. Woods …
» »
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-75127-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html
» »
» »
» » … because “billions of years of evolution can not be improved upon by
» a
» » man made chemical cocktale” … ( :wink: )
» »
» » http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-50070.html#p50726
» »
» » On the other hand, I wonder WHY he used “man made chemical cocktales”??
» »

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" Where are you going with
» this?. This so called man made cocktale is a temprary fix. For pain. Now
» the bht work is suppose to be permanent . Nice job by the way

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I think roger_that’s idea is the best way to test this. I wish the doctors considered it. Maybe this is the approach Rassman will take? The only potential problem is it might be hard to get a bunch of NW7s excited about growing four patchy areas of hair.

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I still stick to the idea that BHT are never be equal to normal hair.

But yeah even i have to admit that roger that sets a good point.

But we got an almost blank NW7 on the pictures from hitzig i guess.

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» The only potential problem is it might be hard to get a bunch of NW7s
» excited about growing four patchy areas of hair.

yea i was thinking the same…

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» » What about Cooley and Rassman? How do you feel about those docs trying
» it?
» » Cooley seems to be investigating it at a microscopic level and
» discovering
» » positive results.
»
» How about investigating it more on a “macroscopic level”?
»
» This is what I would do, to get to the bottom of the question, “What is
» the real benefit and potential of ACell?”
»
» Find 10 volunteers who are at least Norwood 7s with large, slick-bald MPB
» areas.
»
» Divide the bald areas into four quadrants.
»
» In Quadrant I, do 100 grafts of normal HT or FUE with no Acell.
»
» In Quadrant II, do 100 plucked scalp or beard hairs with no ACell.
»
» In Quadrant III, do 100 grafts of normal HT or FUE, bathed in ACell and
» inject the scalp with ACell.
»
» In Quadrant IV, do 100 plucked scalp or beard hairs bathed in ACell and
» inject the scalp with ACell.
»
» Remember, the patients must have severe, NW7 male pattern baldness, with
» large, COMPLETELY BALD areas that have no visible terminal hairs
» whatsoever.
»
» If a patient has terminal hair growing in the bald area, this will
» inevitably lead to confusing results, and photos that can be manipulated
» with lighting, photographic angles, etc.
»
» To keep the experiment ultra-simple, reliable, trustworthy, and
» incontrovertible, the test patients MUST have large, completely bald areas.

Shame on you man. You think researchers have no clue about experiments and you’re going to introduce a new revolutionary way to perform drug testing (no).

Stop suggesting silly and obvious stuff which every researcher should know, and let them work on this.

I laught at every one who wants to be scientist just being bald like everyone on this forum. Yes, we can read so much scientist papers and feel in the top of the mountain, but trust me: researchers know how to perform drug testing.

You’re welcome.

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» Shame on you man. You think researchers have no clue about experiments and
» you’re going to introduce a new revolutionary way to perform drug testing
» (no).
»
» Stop suggesting silly and obvious stuff which every researcher should
» know, and let them work on this.
»
» I laught at every one who wants to be scientist just being bald like
» everyone on this forum. Yes, we can read so much scientist papers and feel
» in the top of the mountain, but trust me: researchers know how to perform
» drug testing.
»
» You’re welcome.

although i agree with you for the most part… keep in mind these HT surgeons are not classical scientists… and in biology (as opposed to my field of physics) much depends on trail and error because biological systems are highly complex certain results can only be found by trying things out. For these reasons I agree with this experiment… But I agree that many suggestions are quite ridiculous… i personally find this experiment quite reasonable

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I never had any faith in PRP but autocloning is different, I could be wrong but I think this is a massive breakthrough.

Dr Cooley is reputable and claims 50-80% growth in the recipient area and that is bound to improve as they experiment with it. Other doctors who are well known and normally very sceptical are testing this now.

The other key advantages if they really are achieving consistency are:

(1) No FDA approval is required because ACell is already approved and plucking a hair and inserting it into the recipient area is not exactly brain surgery.
(2) The body is doing the vast majority of the work, I think this dramatically reduces the chances of tumours or anything else bad occurring because in general the body does good work. I have much less confidence in more sophisticated procedures because engineering the growth of hair by man in my opinion is far more likely to risk having problems.

We don’t know yet about the ability of the autocloned hairs to cycle and whether they retain donor dominance - if these factors are achieved then it may well cause a revolution in the HT industry.

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What an arrogant, ignorant post you made, “albert”.

Do I have to break it down for you?

Firstly, these doctors aren’t researchers. They’re clinical medical practitioners with private surgical practices. They’re smart people, well-trained, but their primary training is NOT as research scientists. That’s why they just have M.D. degrees, and Dr. Ken Washenik has both an M.D. and a Ph.D.

M.D. = CLINICAL PRACTICE

Ph.D. = RESEARCH

Yes, M.D.s can do research, too, but it’s not usually their primary focus. It almost never is when a doctor has a private practice.

I could point out all the other logical flaws, sh*tty reasoning, bad English, and rank arrogance in your post, but I don’t want to waste any more time with people like you.

» » » What about Cooley and Rassman? How do you feel about those docs
» trying
» » it?
» » » Cooley seems to be investigating it at a microscopic level and
» » discovering
» » » positive results.
» »
» » How about investigating it more on a “macroscopic level”?
» »
» » This is what I would do, to get to the bottom of the question, “What is
» » the real benefit and potential of ACell?”
» »
» » Find 10 volunteers who are at least Norwood 7s with large, slick-bald
» MPB
» » areas.
» »
» » Divide the bald areas into four quadrants.
» »
» » In Quadrant I, do 100 grafts of normal HT or FUE with no Acell.
» »
» » In Quadrant II, do 100 plucked scalp or beard hairs with no ACell.
» »
» » In Quadrant III, do 100 grafts of normal HT or FUE, bathed in ACell and
» » inject the scalp with ACell.
» »
» » In Quadrant IV, do 100 plucked scalp or beard hairs bathed in ACell and
» » inject the scalp with ACell.
» »
» » Remember, the patients must have severe, NW7 male pattern baldness,
» with
» » large, COMPLETELY BALD areas that have no visible terminal hairs
» » whatsoever.
» »
» » If a patient has terminal hair growing in the bald area, this will
» » inevitably lead to confusing results, and photos that can be
» manipulated
» » with lighting, photographic angles, etc.
» »
» » To keep the experiment ultra-simple, reliable, trustworthy, and
» » incontrovertible, the test patients MUST have large, completely bald
» areas.
»
» Shame on you man. You think researchers have no clue about experiments and
» you’re going to introduce a new revolutionary way to perform drug testing
» (no).
»
» Stop suggesting silly and obvious stuff which every researcher should
» know, and let them work on this.
»
» I laught at every one who wants to be scientist just being bald like
» everyone on this forum. Yes, we can read so much scientist papers and feel
» in the top of the mountain, but trust me: researchers know how to perform
» drug testing.
»
» You’re welcome.