Why it is so difficult to find a cure

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with all our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure for baldness.

This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some of the answers.

It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up against.

Also, hope springs eternal.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078

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» Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with all
» our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure for
» baldness.
»
» This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some of
» the answers.
»
» It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» against.
»
» Also, hope springs eternal.
»
» http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078

I’d say because it’s not really a disease, but a genetic disposition. Also it involves regenerating organs. This is a whole new area of science in itself.

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Actually it is a disease. When a body organ shuts down due to a genetic abnormality, that is a disease. It may not be a life-threatening disease (in the sense that the body will continue living), but it most certainly is a disease.

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» Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with all
» our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure for
» baldness.
»
» This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some of
» the answers.
»
» It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» against.
»
» Also, hope springs eternal.
»
» http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078

I thinks its possible to slow thinning hair these days :

  1. Reducing Stress / dietary stress
  2. Anti inflammation shampoo
  3. Topical to promote growth
  4. Internal to balance hormones

Thanks
Pete

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» Actually it is a disease. When a body organ shuts down due to a genetic
» abnormality, that is a disease. It may not be a life-threatening disease
» (in the sense that the body will continue living), but it most certainly is
» a disease.

It is clearly a health issue where the immune systems attacks a part of us.
Some morons said not long ago that it is not a disease but only cosmetic but they are wrong.

A part of us dies and I am pretty sure if affects other parts like prostate.

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Is obesity as disease? Is old age dementia a disease?

Where does “genetically-influenced parts of the normal aging process” stop and the “disease” category start?

People get all emotionally wrapped up in these questions becuase everyone feels strongly about how their condition should be viewed.

But it doesn’t really matter in the end. These are genetically governed issues that happen to humans as they age. People generally view them has negative things that any normal person would rather not experience if possible. So therefore it’s reasonable to want them to be treated/cured.

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» Is obesity as disease? Is old age dementia a disease?
»
» Where does “genetically-influenced parts of the normal aging process” stop
» and the “disease” category start?
»
»
» People get all emotionally wrapped up in these questions becuase everyone
» feels strongly about how their condition should be viewed.
»
» But it doesn’t really matter in the end. These are genetically governed
» issues that happen to humans as they age. People generally view them has
» negative things that any normal person would rather not experience if
» possible. So therefore it’s reasonable to want them to be treated/cured.

Is obesity a disease? LOL! I bet if I broke your fucxing jaw your god damn disease would be cured. Stupid analogy.

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» » Is obesity as disease? Is old age dementia a disease?
» »
» » Where does “genetically-influenced parts of the normal aging process”
» stop
» » and the “disease” category start?
» »
» »
» » People get all emotionally wrapped up in these questions becuase
» everyone
» » feels strongly about how their condition should be viewed.
» »
» » But it doesn’t really matter in the end. These are genetically
» governed
» » issues that happen to humans as they age. People generally view them
» has
» » negative things that any normal person would rather not experience if
» » possible. So therefore it’s reasonable to want them to be
» treated/cured.
»
»
» Is obesity a disease? LOL! I bet if I broke your fucxing jaw your god damn
» disease would be cured. Stupid analogy.

Exactly, In the majority of Cases Obesity can be cured with the right Diet and Exercise. It’s not comparable to Hair Loss in any way, shape or form.

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» » Actually it is a disease. When a body organ shuts down due to a genetic
» » abnormality, that is a disease. It may not be a life-threatening
» disease
» » (in the sense that the body will continue living), but it most certainly
» is
» » a disease.
»
» It is clearly a health issue where the immune systems attacks a part of
» us.
» Some morons said not long ago that it is not a disease but only cosmetic
» but they are wrong.
»
» A part of us dies and I am pretty sure if affects other parts like
» prostate.

Sorry but it is NOT a disease… as it does not impair bodily functions and it is purely cosmetic… if it were socially considered attractive to be losing your hair none of you would be saying its a disease … like the guy before me stated… you guys get all emotional when people say its purely cosmetic because you dont want to admit to yourself that its pure vanity… its not affecting your health in any way… and even if someone pulls out links with implications to heart related health issues that go along with balding… we all know that HM or whatever would not fight these symptoms… and frankly these are not the symptoms anyone here is concerned about… get real… its not a freakin disease… its just you getting old and ugly… nothing more, nothing less…

its not your system attacking your own body… its your body that is programmed to give the hair follicles a predetermined life span… evolution has programmed us this way and it is not a diseases infection or what not… quite ridiculous how you try to convince yourself you are fighting an actual sickness rather than admitting to your own vanity.

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» » » Actually it is a disease. When a body organ shuts down due to a
» genetic
» » » abnormality, that is a disease. It may not be a life-threatening
» » disease
» » » (in the sense that the body will continue living), but it most
» certainly
» » is
» » » a disease.
» »
» » It is clearly a health issue where the immune systems attacks a part of
» » us.
» » Some morons said not long ago that it is not a disease but only
» cosmetic
» » but they are wrong.
» »
» » A part of us dies and I am pretty sure if affects other parts like
» » prostate.
»
» Sorry but it is NOT a disease… as it does not impair bodily functions
» and it is purely cosmetic… if it were socially considered attractive to be
» losing your hair none of you would be saying its a disease … like the guy
» before me stated… you guys get all emotional when people say its purely
» cosmetic because you dont want to admit to yourself that its pure vanity…
» its not affecting your health in any way… and even if someone pulls out
» links with implications to heart related health issues that go along with
» balding… we all know that HM or whatever would not fight these symptoms…
» and frankly these are not the symptoms anyone here is concerned about…
» get real… its not a freakin disease… its just you getting old and
» ugly… nothing more, nothing less…
»
» its not your system attacking your own body… its your body that is
» programmed to give the hair follicles a predetermined life span… evolution
» has programmed us this way and it is not a diseases infection or what not…
» quite ridiculous how you try to convince yourself you are fighting an
» actual sickness rather than admitting to your own vanity.

disease /dis·ease/ (dĭ-zēz´) any deviation from or interruption of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system that is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. What would you catagorize AGA as smartass?

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» its just you getting old and ugly… nothing more, nothing less…

try telling people in their 20s that they are ‘old’ when they are afflicted with this disfiguring disease.

there are cancer patients more terrified of going bald from chemotherapy than dying of cancer.

you got guys in thier 50s and 60s running around with a combover - which means despite decades of being bald, they cannot accept their appearance.

How is a guy in his 20s to then accept his condition.

If obesity is classified as a disease and its nothing more than over-eating, baldness sure as hell is a disease. Its something that wrecks a person’s quality of life and worse yet, its nothing a person can control.

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» disease /dis·ease/ (dĭ-zēz´) any deviation from or interruption
» of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system that
» is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose
» etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. What would you
» catagorize AGA as smartass?

yea… keep lying to yourselves… and keep up the insults… makes you sound real confident…

yes hairloss is terrible for people, specially for women and young guys… however it still remains that it is CLEARLY cosmetic it doesnt impair bodily functions at all (wikipedia defines disease as such)… the inability to deal with the change in cosmetics is purely psychological and really cant be classified as a disease… but whatever… it’s something you guys arent willing to accept because its easier thinking that you are fighting a real sickness rather than your own ego…

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» » disease /dis·ease/ (dĭ-zēz´) any deviation from or
» interruption
» » of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system
» that
» » is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose
» » etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. What would
» you
» » catagorize AGA as smartass?
»
» yea… keep lying to yourselves… and keep up the insults… makes you sound
» real confident…
»
»
» yes hairloss is terrible for people, specially for women and young guys…
» however it still remains that it is CLEARLY cosmetic it doesnt impair
» bodily functions at all (wikipedia defines disease as such)… the
» inability to deal with the change in cosmetics is purely psychological and
» really cant be classified as a disease… but whatever… it’s something you
» guys arent willing to accept because its easier thinking that you are
» fighting a real sickness rather than your own ego…

Hair growth is a bodily function, the Follicle is an organ and in MPB it is failing. It is a disease whether you like it or not.

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» » Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with
» all
» » our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure
» for
» » baldness.
» »
» » This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some
» of
» » the answers.
» »
» » It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» » against.
» »
» » Also, hope springs eternal.
» »
» » http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078
»
»
» I thinks its possible to slow thinning hair these days :
»
» 1) Reducing Stress / dietary stress
» 2) Anti inflammation shampoo
» 3) Topical to promote growth
» 4) Internal to balance hormones
»
»
»
»
» Thanks
» Pete

For most people, its absolutely possible to stop hair loss with a combination of proscar, nizoral and rogain. Really, there’s no reason for most people to go bald given what’s available today. Growing hair is another issue, but for you kids just starting to thin, they can certainly keep most of their hair for a couple of decades. That should be enough time for an effective hair growth protocol to make it to market.

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» » » Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with
» » all
» » » our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a
» cure
» » for
» » » baldness.
» » »
» » » This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least
» some
» » of
» » » the answers.
» » »
» » » It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» » » against.
» » »
» » » Also, hope springs eternal.
» » »
» » » http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078
» »
» »
» » I thinks its possible to slow thinning hair these days :
» »
» » 1) Reducing Stress / dietary stress
» » 2) Anti inflammation shampoo
» » 3) Topical to promote growth
» » 4) Internal to balance hormones
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Thanks
» » Pete
»
» For most people, its absolutely possible to stop hair loss with a
» combination of proscar, nizoral and rogain. Really, there’s no reason for
» most people to go bald given what’s available today. Growing hair is
» another issue, but for you kids just starting to thin, they can certainly
» keep most of their hair for a couple of decades. That should be enough
» time for an effective hair growth protocol to make it to market.

even with those three i feel that it merely slows down my hairloss… but it certainly has not stopped it. what works for you might not work for everyone… depending on the aggressiveness of your hairloss

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  • Most people don’t notice their hairloss until they lost a substantial amount of volume.
  • Rogaine is only effective on the crown area, and it’s tedious to use.
  • Many people don’t respond well to Propecia; Some don’t respond to Nizoral.
  • Most of these drugs lose their efficacy after a certain amount of time.
  • None of these options are proven to recover lost hair. Those cases are very rare.

Translation: You cannot rely on today’s treatments.

» » » » Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why -
» with
» » » all
» » » » our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a
» » cure
» » » for
» » » » baldness.
» » » »
» » » » This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least
» » some
» » » of
» » » » the answers.
» » » »
» » » » It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» » » » against.
» » » »
» » » » Also, hope springs eternal.
» » » »
» » » » http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078
» » »
» » »
» » » I thinks its possible to slow thinning hair these days :
» » »
» » » 1) Reducing Stress / dietary stress
» » » 2) Anti inflammation shampoo
» » » 3) Topical to promote growth
» » » 4) Internal to balance hormones
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Thanks
» » » Pete
» »
» » For most people, its absolutely possible to stop hair loss with a
» » combination of proscar, nizoral and rogain. Really, there’s no reason
» for
» » most people to go bald given what’s available today. Growing hair is
» » another issue, but for you kids just starting to thin, they can
» certainly
» » keep most of their hair for a couple of decades. That should be enough
» » time for an effective hair growth protocol to make it to market.
»
» even with those three i feel that it merely slows down my hairloss… but
» it certainly has not stopped it. what works for you might not work for
» everyone… depending on the aggressiveness of your hairloss

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» Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with all
» our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure for
» baldness.
»
» This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some of
» the answers.
»
» It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» against.
»
» Also, hope springs eternal.
»
» http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078

my brother who i have mentioned is a scientist… blah, blah, whatever, who cares said that its much easier to clone something large than small. a entire living creature such as a human being or a sheep is nothing compared to a hair follicle or tooth. he said the problem is that when dealing with something as minuscule as these organs are that it becomes more and more complex in nature. though i would argue the the speed of science/technology in this area is significantly slower than others. why? simple answer, not a lot of people care about this or even see it as a problem at all.

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» » Like many people on this forum, I am often perplexed as to why - with
» all
» » our modern technology, knowledge and resources - we cannot find a cure
» for
» » baldness.
» »
» » This article in the current edition of Newsweek provides at least some
» of
» » the answers.
» »
» » It is disturbing reading, but it is better to know what we are up
» » against.
» »
» » Also, hope springs eternal.
» »
» » http://www.newsweek.com/id/238078
»
» my brother who i have mentioned is a scientist… blah, blah, whatever,
» who cares said that its much easier to clone something large than small. a
» entire living creature such as a human being or a sheep is nothing compared
» to a hair follicle or tooth. he said the problem is that when dealing with
» something as minuscule as these organs are that it becomes more and more
» complex in nature. though i would argue the the speed of
» science/technology in this area is significantly slower than others. why?
» simple answer, not a lot of people care about this or even see it as a
» problem at all.

i do hope more than anything things do zooooom along though! i also cant wait till the second half of 2010 were trichoscience should be starting ps1, histogen will be doing their thing in asia, and aderans fills us in on their ps2! ALOT of wonderful stuff coming up! i cant wait till we get some good news on all these developements.

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Yep. It’s definitely a disease. Name another body organ that fails due to genetics that is not considered a disease. The medical definition of disease clearly states that it is a disease. Some people have a hard time accepting that though, because it’s not life threatening (except in the cases of extreme psychological problems).

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» Yep. It’s definitely a disease. Name another body organ that fails due to
» genetics that is not considered a disease. The medical definition of
» disease clearly states that it is a disease. Some people have a hard time
» accepting that though, because it’s not life threatening (except in the
» cases of extreme psychological problems).

extreme psychological problems - thats us,thats why we are here!