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Why can\'t this be done with hair?


#1

Just saw an incredidle episode of Nova. Basically scientists are able to grow new body parts/organs using our own DNA so that the body won’t reject the new organ. Believe it or not they are only a few years away from this and can do this right now in a lab. There have already been patients where a transplanted body part was “cleaned” of its existing DNA and the patients DNA then applied to it, the patient did not reject the part and did not need anti rejection meds.

Being that they can grow a brand new heart or lungs in a lab that require intricate blood supply, you’d think that hair would be that much simpler. Grow new hair or maybe hair follicle with a patients own DNA, hair or hair follicle that is resistent to DHT, and simply implant, baldness cured! Now lets move on to world peace :wink:

Anyways, here is the link to the Nova episode so you can see/read what i’m blabbing about. Can’t see why this science would not be applied to baldness at some point in the very near future.

Ciao


#2

Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If indeed they are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the end say it can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to add more density?

Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from the back of my head if they can already generate new hair follicles. Something does not make sense.

http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html


#3

» Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If indeed they
» are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the end say it
» can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to add more
» density?
»
» Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from the back of
» my head if they can already generate new hair follicles. Something does
» not make sense.
»
» http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html

Money thats it, believe in two years there will be a new sloagan when it comes to hairloss

“You wanna have a higher density then you had as a teenager? Come to us we have the answer”

The first hints points towards this :slight_smile: and in 10 years we will see the first "Too much density repair patients, when they see “Well in my 50s an elvis hairdo is not what i want damn it”


#4

» » Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If indeed they
» » are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the end say
» it
» » can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to add more
» » density?
» »
» » Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from the back
» of
» » my head if they can already generate new hair follicles. Something does
» » not make sense.
» »
» » http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html
»
» Money thats it, believe in two years there will be a new sloagan when it
» comes to hairloss
»
» “You wanna have a higher density then you had as a teenager? Come to us we
» have the answer”
»
» The first hints points towards this :slight_smile: and in 10 years we will see the
» first "Too much density repair patients, when they see “Well in my 50s an
» elvis hairdo is not what i want damn it”

Why cant they cultivate hair follicles from poor indians and africans who would be willing to sell their hair follicles for money, strip the hair follicle of cells, than inject cells from the patient undergoing the transplant with his dermal cells and epiderdermal cells from the donor region of his head.


#5

» » » Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If indeed
» they
» » » are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the end
» say
» » it
» » » can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to add
» more
» » » density?
» » »
» » » Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from the
» back
» » of
» » » my head if they can already generate new hair follicles. Something
» does
» » » not make sense.
» » »
» » » http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html
» »
» » Money thats it, believe in two years there will be a new sloagan when it
» » comes to hairloss
» »
» » “You wanna have a higher density then you had as a teenager? Come to us
» we
» » have the answer”
» »
» » The first hints points towards this :slight_smile: and in 10 years we will see the
» » first "Too much density repair patients, when they see “Well in my 50s
» an
» » elvis hairdo is not what i want damn it”
»
»
» Why cant they cultivate hair follicles from poor indians and africans who
» would be willing to sell their hair follicles for money, strip the hair
» follicle of cells, than inject cells from the patient undergoing the
» transplant with his dermal cells and epiderdermal cells from the donor
» region of his head.

Yeah right exploit them. Maybe we should use them as a super market for organs? Right?

But another question i keep asking myself is, how muslims will react to acell? Its made of Pig Blatter


#6

» » » » Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If indeed
» » they
» » » » are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the end
» » say
» » » it
» » » » can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to add
» » more
» » » » density?
» » » »
» » » » Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from the
» » back
» » » of
» » » » my head if they can already generate new hair follicles. Something
» » does
» » » » not make sense.
» » » »
» » » » http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html
» » »
» » » Money thats it, believe in two years there will be a new sloagan when
» it
» » » comes to hairloss
» » »
» » » “You wanna have a higher density then you had as a teenager? Come to
» us
» » we
» » » have the answer”
» » »
» » » The first hints points towards this :slight_smile: and in 10 years we will see
» the
» » » first "Too much density repair patients, when they see “Well in my 50s
» » an
» » » elvis hairdo is not what i want damn it”
» »
» »
» » Why cant they cultivate hair follicles from poor indians and africans
» who
» » would be willing to sell their hair follicles for money, strip the hair
» » follicle of cells, than inject cells from the patient undergoing the
» » transplant with his dermal cells and epiderdermal cells from the donor
» » region of his head.
»
» Yeah right exploit them. Maybe we should use them as a super market for
» organs? Right?
»
» But another question i keep asking myself is, how muslims will react to
» acell? Its made of Pig Blatter

Im muslim myself, by name “Khalil” is arabic. Im moderatley religious and believe me acell being made out of swine is the last thing on my mind.

Out of 100 muslims 99.99 would be willing to use acell if it cured baldness.


#7

I don’t think it would be that barbaric Khalil. We could probably use “pig” follicles.


#8

» » » » » Aderans claims to be doing just that. But one question : If
» indeed
» » » they
» » » » » are able to generate new hair follicles, why does the guy at the
» end
» » » say
» » » » it
» » » » » can be used to augment (suppliment) a traditional transplant to
» add
» » » more
» » » » » density?
» » » » »
» » » » » Why would I need a traditional transplant and deplete hair from
» the
» » » back
» » » » of
» » » » » my head if they can already generate new hair follicles.
» Something
» » » does
» » » » » not make sense.
» » » » »
» » » » » http://aderansresearch.com/ari_whatwedo_moa.html
» » » »
» » » » Money thats it, believe in two years there will be a new sloagan
» when
» » it
» » » » comes to hairloss
» » » »
» » » » “You wanna have a higher density then you had as a teenager? Come to
» » us
» » » we
» » » » have the answer”
» » » »
» » » » The first hints points towards this :slight_smile: and in 10 years we will see
» » the
» » » » first "Too much density repair patients, when they see “Well in my
» 50s
» » » an
» » » » elvis hairdo is not what i want damn it”
» » »
» » »
» » » Why cant they cultivate hair follicles from poor indians and africans
» » who
» » » would be willing to sell their hair follicles for money, strip the
» hair
» » » follicle of cells, than inject cells from the patient undergoing the
» » » transplant with his dermal cells and epiderdermal cells from the donor
» » » region of his head.
» »
» » Yeah right exploit them. Maybe we should use them as a super market for
» » organs? Right?
» »
» » But another question i keep asking myself is, how muslims will react to
» » acell? Its made of Pig Blatter
»
»
» Im muslim myself, by name “Khalil” is arabic. Im moderatley religious and
» believe me acell being made out of swine is the last thing on my mind.
»
»
» Out of 100 muslims 99.99 would be willing to use acell if it cured
» baldness.

brilliant idea… and then we can take immune suppressant drugs for the rest of our lives to prevent the foreign donor dermal cells from being rejected…


#9

hairman2 is absolutely right. And when you have to use those immune suppressants then not even a hairtransplant can help you any more. You are absolutely screwed for all time.

Have you guys seen people who have to eat those drugs… i dont wanna change my life with them even if i got my hair back


#10

That is what Acell is focused on. The original intentions of this company never involved the regeneration of hair. It is focused on tissue regeneration (wound healing). Here is the Acell website (if you click on the December 13, 2009) link, there is a video VERY similar to the Nova video. Here is the link to the Acell website:

http://www.acell.com/

Here is a shortcut to the link that shows the December 13th video:

It is amazing technology that (I think) will eventually become a “game changer” in the medical field. When I saw the original post (from WESB) about Acell, I felt that it could have some applications to the hair restoration field. I originally thought that it would be used to regenerate removed donor tissue AND donor hair, providing a LIMITLESS DONOR SUPPLY for hair transplant patients. I’m pleased to see that “forward thinking” doctors are also looking for other methods for the use of Acell to benefit hairloss sufferers.

Basically, what I’m saying is that it is already being tested in the field of hair regeration with Acell.

Take Care,
Bill


#11

It’s kinda sad when you think about it. We can actually transplant a face, but we don’t yet have a cure for baldness or cellulite.


#12

» That is what Acell is focused on. The original intentions of this company
» never involved the regeneration of hair. It is focused on tissue
» regeneration (wound healing). Here is the Acell website (if you click on
» the December 13, 2009) link, there is a video VERY similar to the Nova
» video. Here is the link to the Acell website:
»
» http://www.acell.com/
»
» Here is a shortcut to the link that shows the December 13th video:
»
» http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6711905n&tag=mncol;lst;1
»
» It is amazing technology that (I think) will eventually become a “game
» changer” in the medical field. When I saw the original post (from WESB)
» about Acell, I felt that it could have some applications to the hair
» restoration field. I originally thought that it would be used to
» regenerate removed donor tissue AND donor hair, providing a LIMITLESS DONOR
» SUPPLY for hair transplant patients. I’m pleased to see that “forward
» thinking” doctors are also looking for other methods for the use of Acell
» to benefit hairloss sufferers.
»
» Basically, what I’m saying is that it is already being tested in the field
» of hair regeration with Acell.
»
» Take Care,
» Bill

a big thank you to posters like you and wesb.


#13

» It’s kinda sad when you think about it. We can actually transplant a face,
» but we don’t yet have a cure for baldness or cellulite.

You are right but a cure for the first thing is in the making.

And we should be lucky to be male. Just for one second imagine you are female with hairloss.

Its devastating, i mean guys can work out and look good, but to be honest everyone here when he sees a going bald women is like " Not my type" :frowning:

Thats why i think, the acell approach is amazing cause it can defeat mae and female baldness.

Oh and cellulite, well almost every woman has to deal with this, you see when it comes down to those stuff everyone has its fair share at a “bad gene pool” its sad but true.

And also consider one thing for one moment, hairs can be transplanted to more then just full satisfaction. But diabetes, cancer, or maybe just beeing a really small guy 160cm or so cannot be corrected by putting acel on it and pay a few thousand bucks :expressionless: so all in all even if it is hard, there are much more devastating things you could get out there.

Yeah i know its easy to say when you know there is a cure in the making etc but thats the first step to not waste the short time you have to stick with your baldness :slight_smile:

So enjoy your baldness and also the bickering at message boards as long as you can, with all full head of hair you will be ashamed of your postings :slight_smile:


#14

» It’s kinda sad when you think about it. We can actually transplant a face,
» but we don’t yet have a cure for baldness or cellulite.

I’m sure you’ve seen what a transplanted face looks like? NW7 is a million times better look than that!


#15

» » It’s kinda sad when you think about it. We can actually transplant a
» face,
» » but we don’t yet have a cure for baldness or cellulite.
»
» I’m sure you’ve seen what a transplanted face looks like? NW7 is a million
» times better look than that!

Absolutly agree


#16

The foreign tissue would be stripped of its cells/DNA and your cells/DNA would be inserted therefore making the tissue yours, no rejection no anti rejections meds. It makes me laugh how off topic these posts can get, focus people! Did any of you actually view the material provided in the link I attached.


#17

» The foreign tissue would be stripped of its cells/DNA and your cells/DNA
» would be inserted therefore making the tissue yours, no rejection no anti
» rejections meds. It makes me laugh how off topic these posts can get,
» focus people! Did any of you actually view the material provided in the
» link I attached.

Yes we would need a donor though, someone somewhere in the world should be willing to sell there hair follicles via an fue extraction, the hair follicle would then be stripped of its cells.

All that would be left of the hair follicle would be the scaffold that contains the basic structure of a hair follicles (sebaceous gland, dermal sheath, etc)

Your own cells (dermal fibroblasts and epithelial cells) will be cultures in vitro and then injected into the scaffold.

Hopefully the cells will be instructed to rebuild the hair follicle, and voila new hair follicles.


#18

imagine if that happened.

we’d have to lure our victim (donor) into a dark alley at night, violently assault him and steal his hair.

prior to that we’d have to stalk him for months. make sure his hair type and color matches ours, make sure he’s healthy and not disease ridden with AIDS or STD. then gain his trust… and finally do the deed of scalping the sucker.

we’d be like draculas except instead of drinking the guy’s blood we’d be robbing his hair.

guys with good hair would be advised to stay indoors after 7 pm for their own safety.


#19

» Yeah right exploit them. Maybe we should use them as a super market for
» organs? Right?
»
» But another question i keep asking myself is, how muslims will react to
» acell? Its made of Pig Blatter

I was just kidding about 99.9% of muslims that would use pork derived extra cellular matrix if it would cure baldness, Acell comes from pig bladders. For Muslims and Jews who cant touch pork which is actually a large percentage of the religous group, they could use a substitute such as extracellular matrix derived from Horse, sheep, or Cow bladders.