When come the Follica update?

» » Yeah,Follica have a fully working product & they will release it once
» there
» » is peace in the Middle East.Looks like we will all have our “cure” in
» » approximately…NEVER !
»
» It seems to me that every couple-of-months we get a new guy that joins
» hairsite whose been butchered by an HT doc, and whose bitter in every
» comment he posts… only to dissapear/ be replaced by an equally butchered,
» and bitter poster.
»
» Look man I/We get it. HT suck (it’s overpriced, and inconsistent at
» best),
» and HM is a crapshoot at the moment, BUT this negativeity will only make
» you sicker, so give it a break.

Couldnt agree more! Like i said in my previous post their is reason for some hope! You just have to wait for the first set of results which should be here this year! From there you will have a better idea of timelines for Follica! Simple!

Sorry you have had bad experiences with HT docs by the way!

» is anyone of you seeing multiple hairs coming out of a single follicle? I
» just noticed that on my chest - two hairs from same follicle in about half
» of the chest hair, talk about density!

I do have some instances of this. Up until recently I always thought it was one follicle for one hair. But apparently there can be up to three from one follicle.

»
» Those hairs will slowly improve… and I mean slooooowly…What I’ve
» done looks like it will bring the hairs I should have and I should be
» thrilled about that, however, like I’ve said in the past, I’m greedy. I
» went straight across, ie. girls hairline or NW 0 and those new babies looks
» like it can take 5 years to get there if at all. I’m very interested in
» what you (baccy) are since I would inhibit wnt this time around if I could.
» Unfortunately, I have to wait until May or so to try again. I hope u grow
» John Stamos like hairs. We should be phucking around with this stuff
» topically…but to each his own right. BTW, Frankie B just did another
» round of wounding. He is pretty much doing what baccy is doing. Damn! I
» want in but it is too soon for me.

With the wnt inhibition, it’s a fine line. If you inhibit during the window, you lose any chance of follicle formation. But we do not know EXACTLY when the window is. A commercialised product with Follica would probably utilise lab tests to determine the individual’s window. If you inhibit for 10 days as per mice, it may trash the chance of any follicles forming. We don’t REALLY know whether it’s necessary in humans. Because of the way mouse pigmentation works wnt inhibition before boosting is ncessary ONLY for pigmentation and not efficiency of follicle generation.

BTW I also went straight across to try seeing if I get teenage hairline back. I can’t say that I desperately WANT a teenage hairline at 44, but it would certainly interest me to see those little buggers growing after 25+ years!
Oh, if you hear anything about Frankie’s results, let us know. Cheers.

» »
» » Those hairs will slowly improve… and I mean slooooowly…What I’ve
» » done looks like it will bring the hairs I should have and I should be
» » thrilled about that, however, like I’ve said in the past, I’m greedy.
» I
» » went straight across, ie. girls hairline or NW 0 and those new babies
» looks
» » like it can take 5 years to get there if at all. I’m very interested
» in
» » what you (baccy) are since I would inhibit wnt this time around if I
» could.
» » Unfortunately, I have to wait until May or so to try again. I hope u
» grow
» » John Stamos like hairs. We should be phucking around with this stuff
» » topically…but to each his own right. BTW, Frankie B just did
» another
» » round of wounding. He is pretty much doing what baccy is doing. Damn!
» I
» » want in but it is too soon for me.

From what I can tell so far, this might be a possibility:

Maybe getfitnib and wounding is all you need, no immunos and etc… For human, it will take longer and maybe 4-6 sessions a few months apart to get solid results. It is sort of in the lines of laser hair removal where u need to go multiple sessions. Just a theory…
»
» With the wnt inhibition, it’s a fine line. If you inhibit during the
» window, you lose any chance of follicle formation. But we do not know
» EXACTLY when the window is. A commercialised product with Follica would
» probably utilise lab tests to determine the individual’s window. If you
» inhibit for 10 days as per mice, it may trash the chance of any follicles
» forming. We don’t REALLY know whether it’s necessary in humans. Because of
» the way mouse pigmentation works wnt inhibition before boosting is ncessary
» ONLY for pigmentation and not efficiency of follicle generation.
»
» BTW I also went straight across to try seeing if I get teenage hairline
» back. I can’t say that I desperately WANT a teenage hairline at 44, but it
» would certainly interest me to see those little buggers growing after 25+
» years!
» Oh, if you hear anything about Frankie’s results, let us know. Cheers.

» » is anyone of you seeing multiple hairs coming out of a single follicle?
» I
» » just noticed that on my chest - two hairs from same follicle in about
» half
» » of the chest hair, talk about density!
»
» I do have some instances of this. Up until recently I always thought it
» was one follicle for one hair. But apparently there can be up to three from
» one follicle.

its one follicle one hair, but there can be 3 per follicular unit which is 3 follicles at one spot tied next to each other.

If you hope to grow solid hair from wounding only than I can tell you that I have already been there. I tried 10 passes of wounding in my temples, it does work, but it’s just not good enough.

It did help 2 first passes grew some semi terminal hair, but since then i didnt get any more results. it was just the semi terminal useless no coverage providing hair.

I think the way to go is to find the damn timings of the wnt and stuff. thats why all ppl who failed should take notes and post their logs so other ppl can try different timings.

» If you hope to grow solid hair from wounding only than I can tell you that
» I have already been there. I tried 10 passes of wounding in my temples, it
» does work, but it’s just not good enough.
»
» It did help 2 first passes grew some semi terminal hair, but since then i
» didnt get any more results. it was just the semi terminal useless no
» coverage providing hair.
»
» I think the way to go is to find the damn timings of the wnt and stuff.
» thats why all ppl who failed should take notes and post their logs so other
» ppl can try different timings.

imho rly if we want to proceed with this fast, then we should try to stick as close to the follicas procedure as possible, and the volunteers should try different tweaks on different part of their heads. Otherwise it will take ages to find the timings.

What I mean here is to for example depilate the hair before the try, but just on one half of your head, then, wound, then start topicals but only on this spot, later start on the spot there, etc … take notes, find which place worked the best, then refine more etc …

a long time ago I have read that stem cells have to kind of recover in order to function in the way we want it. what I mean is, you cannot wound, wait 3 or 4 weeks and the wound again. It wouldn’t improve the situation. I don’t know how long you have to wait. maybe someone knows what I am talking about and can help us with the article/study.

@mike why are you waiting?

» a long time ago I have read that stem cells have to kind of recover in
» order to function in the way we want it. what I mean is, you cannot wound,
» wait 3 or 4 weeks and the wound again. It wouldn’t improve the situation. I
» don’t know how long you have to wait. maybe someone knows what I am talking
» about and can help us with the article/study.
»
» @mike why are you waiting?

I did about 6 layers of wounding last time and it is way too soon to try again. When I say that I don’t think my 2nd attempt helped any, even with anti-histimine and topical immunos added, it may be the fact that I didn’t wait long enough after the first try to start a 2nd run at this. Maybe topical immunos does help… we’ll see with baccy’s results.

Mike! How are those baby hairs doing?! :smiley:

» Mike! How are those baby hairs doing?! :smiley:

Interesting u would ask… The new growth that are terminals looks like it will hit full terminal and the for some reason the “brand new” hairs on the temples, u know, the ones that weren’t there b4, – it looks like it regressed a little. It looks like a lot of them sheded off. Weird… can’t explain it. Will they grow back thicker or at all, I don’t know yet. The places where I should have hairs r coming along fine although I wish it would be quicker. Overall, I can’t complain yet.

hey mike, cpl of qs -

  1. the new growth you’ve got, is that completely new in areas previously super shiny ? how is this diff from the brand new hair you speak of ?

  2. how is the skin healing coming along ? any sign of discoloration, or some itching ?

Thanks…

» » Mike! How are those baby hairs doing?! :smiley:
»
» Interesting u would ask… The new growth that are terminals looks like
» it will hit full terminal and the for some reason the “brand new” hairs on
» the temples, u know, the ones that weren’t there b4, – it looks like it
» regressed a little. It looks like a lot of them sheded off. Weird…
» can’t explain it. Will they grow back thicker or at all, I don’t know yet.
» The places where I should have hairs r coming along fine although I wish
» it would be quicker. Overall, I can’t complain yet.