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#1

Does anyone think there will be anything on the market in the next 5 years that will drastically increase the number of crown hairs? I’ve been lurking here for years (losing hair slowly since 1998 at age 19) going back to promises of something from Cohen Gho by now and my hair loss has finally gotten to the point I can’t hide it anymore.

I’m considering going for an Armani transplant in the next 18 months to firm up my hairline and thicken my crown…expecting to use supplements to try and slow any further loss. It’s a gamble because I’d be doing so in the expectation that I would have access to a more sophisticated treatment by 2015 to thicken up the crown.

I know no one has an ‘answer’, just looking for some advice and insight and really gut feeling on what may work that’s in the pipeline. After years of disappointments with these supposed breakthroughs coming I don’t know what to believe anymore.


#2

» Does anyone think there will be anything on the market in the next 5 years
» that will drastically increase the number of crown hairs? I’ve been
» lurking here for years (losing hair slowly since 1998 at age 19) going back
» to promises of something from Cohen Gho by now and my hair loss has finally
» gotten to the point I can’t hide it anymore.
»
» I’m considering going for an Armani transplant in the next 18 months to
» firm up my hairline and thicken my crown…expecting to use supplements to
» try and slow any further loss. It’s a gamble because I’d be doing so in
» the expectation that I would have access to a more sophisticated treatment
» by 2015 to thicken up the crown.
»
» I know no one has an ‘answer’, just looking for some advice and insight
» and really gut feeling on what may work that’s in the pipeline. After
» years of disappointments with these supposed breakthroughs coming I don’t
» know what to believe anymore.

There are two treatments in trials now - Histogen and Aderans - that, if they work, could be available in 5 to 7 years. Besides that, there’s nothing else known to be in trials currently that would be available within the next five years. Aderans will be announcing their stage II trials soon. If they were successful, on to stage III and hopefully the marketplace. Histogen is less concrete, as they seem to be having money problems and have been making some outrageous claims. In any event, if you can wait a year or so, it will be very clear what will be available in the following 4 years. If by the end of 2010 there isn’t any serious progress, I’d start looking at an HT (though I don’t know if Armani would be my first choice - I’d check out Spencer Kobren’s HT association for a good doctor).


#3

» There are two treatments in trials now - Histogen and Aderans - that, if
» they work, could be available in 5 to 7 years. Besides that, there’s
» nothing else known to be in trials currently that would be available within
» the next five years. Aderans will be announcing their stage II trials
» soon. If they were successful, on to stage III and hopefully the
» marketplace. Histogen is less concrete, as they seem to be having money
» problems and have been making some outrageous claims. In any event, if you
» can wait a year or so, it will be very clear what will be available in the
» following 4 years. If by the end of 2010 there isn’t any serious progress,
» I’d start looking at an HT (though I don’t know if Armani would be my first
» choice - I’d check out Spencer Kobren’s HT association for a good doctor).

Thank you for the insight.

I thought Armani had a pretty solid rep…I’ll check out Kobren’s association on your reco.

Do you think this new Acell news is going nowhere as well?


#4

» » There are two treatments in trials now - Histogen and Aderans - that, if
» » they work, could be available in 5 to 7 years. Besides that, there’s
» » nothing else known to be in trials currently that would be available
» within
» » the next five years. Aderans will be announcing their stage II trials
» » soon. If they were successful, on to stage III and hopefully the
» » marketplace. Histogen is less concrete, as they seem to be having
» money
» » problems and have been making some outrageous claims. In any event, if
» you
» » can wait a year or so, it will be very clear what will be available in
» the
» » following 4 years. If by the end of 2010 there isn’t any serious
» progress,
» » I’d start looking at an HT (though I don’t know if Armani would be my
» first
» » choice - I’d check out Spencer Kobren’s HT association for a good
» doctor).
»
»
» Thank you for the insight.
»
» I thought Armani had a pretty solid rep…I’ll check out Kobren’s
» association on your reco.
»
» Do you think this new Acell news is going nowhere as well?

I think it might help with scar reduction (which is a non-issue with FUE HTs - the only kind you should consider). I am very skeptical about the claims of “cloning”, as at least one of the doctors involved has a questionable reputation, and the other all but denounced the cloning claim when he was interviewed by Kobren for his radio show. I think its another case of, “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”.

Are you on any of the big three (Proscar/Rogain/Nizoral)? You should really consider them if you’re not. The claims of sides are overblown.


#5

» » » There are two treatments in trials now - Histogen and Aderans - that,
» if
» » » they work, could be available in 5 to 7 years. Besides that, there’s
» » » nothing else known to be in trials currently that would be available
» » within
» » » the next five years. Aderans will be announcing their stage II
» trials
» » » soon. If they were successful, on to stage III and hopefully the
» » » marketplace. Histogen is less concrete, as they seem to be having
» » money
» » » problems and have been making some outrageous claims. In any event,
» if
» » you
» » » can wait a year or so, it will be very clear what will be available
» in
» » the
» » » following 4 years. If by the end of 2010 there isn’t any serious
» » progress,
» » » I’d start looking at an HT (though I don’t know if Armani would be my
» » first
» » » choice - I’d check out Spencer Kobren’s HT association for a good
» » doctor).
» »
» »
» » Thank you for the insight.
» »
» » I thought Armani had a pretty solid rep…I’ll check out Kobren’s
» » association on your reco.
» »
» » Do you think this new Acell news is going nowhere as well?
»
» I think it might help with scar reduction (which is a non-issue with FUE
» HTs - the only kind you should consider). I am very skeptical about the
» claims of “cloning”, as at least one of the doctors involved has a
» questionable reputation, and the other all but denounced the cloning claim
» when he was interviewed by Kobren for his radio show. I think its another
» case of, “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”.
»
» Are you on any of the big three (Proscar/Rogain/Nizoral)? You should
» really consider them if you’re not. The claims of sides are overblown.

Gotcha.

I’m not on any of the three. From talking to some other people who have been on Proscar/Propecia I do do believe you that the claims of side effects are overblown…however, I personally must fall into the minority of people who get the side effects from it. I used it years ago and experienced sides that I don’t want to go through again.

With regard to Nizoral or Rogaine…would using both be redundant? Should I just choose one? Thanks again for the help.


#6

» » » » There are two treatments in trials now - Histogen and Aderans -
» that,
» » if
» » » » they work, could be available in 5 to 7 years. Besides that,
» there’s
» » » » nothing else known to be in trials currently that would be
» available
» » » within
» » » » the next five years. Aderans will be announcing their stage II
» » trials
» » » » soon. If they were successful, on to stage III and hopefully the
» » » » marketplace. Histogen is less concrete, as they seem to be having
» » » money
» » » » problems and have been making some outrageous claims. In any
» event,
» » if
» » » you
» » » » can wait a year or so, it will be very clear what will be available
» » in
» » » the
» » » » following 4 years. If by the end of 2010 there isn’t any serious
» » » progress,
» » » » I’d start looking at an HT (though I don’t know if Armani would be
» my
» » » first
» » » » choice - I’d check out Spencer Kobren’s HT association for a good
» » » doctor).
» » »
» » »
» » » Thank you for the insight.
» » »
» » » I thought Armani had a pretty solid rep…I’ll check out Kobren’s
» » » association on your reco.
» » »
» » » Do you think this new Acell news is going nowhere as well?
» »
» » I think it might help with scar reduction (which is a non-issue with
» FUE
» » HTs - the only kind you should consider). I am very skeptical about
» the
» » claims of “cloning”, as at least one of the doctors involved has a
» » questionable reputation, and the other all but denounced the cloning
» claim
» » when he was interviewed by Kobren for his radio show. I think its
» another
» » case of, “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”.
» »
» » Are you on any of the big three (Proscar/Rogain/Nizoral)? You should
» » really consider them if you’re not. The claims of sides are overblown.
»
»
» Gotcha.
»
» I’m not on any of the three. From talking to some other people who have
» been on Proscar/Propecia I do do believe you that the claims of side
» effects are overblown…however, I personally must fall into the minority
» of people who get the side effects from it. I used it years ago and
» experienced sides that I don’t want to go through again.
»
» With regard to Nizoral or Rogaine…would using both be redundant? Should
» I just choose one? Thanks again for the help.

With regards to those three, the sum is greater than the parts. There is a synergistic effect between them, so the more of them you’re on, the better response you’ll get. If you don’t/can’t take proscar, then definitely still get on Nizoral and Rogaine (and maybe try some of the natural DHT inhibitors). The benefits won’t be as great as they could be if they were taken in tandem with proscar or dutasteride, but there still should be some results.


#7

I would also vote to see what Aderans comes up with. IMHO they are by far the most realistic chance we currently have for near-term commercial HM. They are in phase#2 trials right now and that is the most critical phase for proving that their basic science is viable.


#8

If only you had seen Dr. R… :stuck_out_tongue:


#9

» Does anyone think there will be anything on the market in the next 5 years
» that will drastically increase the number of crown hairs? I’ve been
» lurking here for years (losing hair slowly since 1998 at age 19) going back
» to promises of something from Cohen Gho by now and my hair loss has finally
» gotten to the point I can’t hide it anymore.
»
» I’m considering going for an Armani transplant in the next 18 months to
» firm up my hairline and thicken my crown…expecting to use supplements to
» try and slow any further loss. It’s a gamble because I’d be doing so in
» the expectation that I would have access to a more sophisticated treatment
» by 2015 to thicken up the crown.
»
» I know no one has an ‘answer’, just looking for some advice and insight
» and really gut feeling on what may work that’s in the pipeline. After
» years of disappointments with these supposed breakthroughs coming I don’t
» know what to believe anymore.

What have you tried?
Don’t go to transplants yet, try some alternatives.