Utterly appalled by Arvind, embarrased to be associated with him in the same ind

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» I shed some light, and you don’t want to accept a reality, even though I
» did not name you or anyone…poor follicle handling by transient techs is
» a fact
»
» You may be pristine and a perfect poswal…so it shouldnt bother you
»
» So why so defensive ?
»
» Even your former student, Dr Umar, who in my opinion is now clearly your
» master , stated it was a “good video”…
»
» Despite my scraps with Dr Umar, he did not challenge the fact that this is
» an issue
»
» Several others agreed it is an issue, and needs to be addressed
»
» It is interesting that no one else challenges…its just you
»
» And I am appalled by you and your defence of a sick and dysfunctional
» industry
»
» But it gives you an easy living, with endless self adulation
»
» And I regard your results as lousy concealed combovers…black on black
»
» Dr Ray Woods

Woods sucks. I never saw a 6000 grafts or more result. All the results are 500, and a couple 1500 grafts!, lol.

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» » » “black on black” is it really necessary to use that language? I am
» an
» » » African American and I am offended to read that comment especially
» » coming
» » » from a doctor. How dare you, who do you think you are?
» »
» » Black on black?..how does this offend you btw?
» »
» » Im black from Africa …Are you not proud of who you are?
» »
» » If he said white on white do you think caucasians would be offended?
» »
» » yea it looks like graft for graft DrRW seems to get better results then
» Dr
» » A…
» »
» » For example if diamond6 went to DrA he would quote 10 000 grafts+ for
» job
» » and results would be about the same…so you have to question survival of
» » these grafts…if you are high NW you cant gamble with grafts…
»
» how does “black on black” add any substance to his argument? He could have
» just said Dr. Arvind’s results look like a lousy combover and left it like
» that, it is not necessary to add “black on black”, what purpose does “black
» on black” serve in his post?

So what if Dr. Woods wants to poke fun at other races, people do that all the time, that is not illegal and certainly does not make him a bad hair transplant doctor.

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Dr. Woods is not making fun of other races come on. He is talking clearly about in his first statement. Black hair black skin. Makes for better camaflauge in hair restoration same as white hair white skin. Or blonde hair. We all know this in ht. And as far as awards in hair restoration LOL. In this industry??? Yeah just like the golden follicle award given by the ishrs. You have to see some of the hacks given that award in the past. Is why awards in my opinion mean nothing for quality.

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» » » “black on black” is it really necessary to use that language? I am
» an
» » » African American and I am offended to read that comment especially
» » coming
» » » from a doctor. How dare you, who do you think you are?
» »
» » Well I am offended that you are offended, how can the word ‘black’ be
» » thought of as a word that cannot be used ?
» »
» » How dare you, who do you think you are ?
»
» Are you serious? You are offended by FIGURATIVE Speech? Who are you? Spike
» Lee or what?
»
» This is ridicolous, sorry but its true, african americans are always
» offended by the word black FACEPALM
»
» Here are some more words for
»
» 1) Black board
» 2) black friday
» 3) Blackout
» 4) Blackjack
»
»
» And yes iam to offended BECAUSE YOU ARE OFFENDED like a closet racist or
» something

You are a moron, you don’t even know what figure of speech means, Woods black on black comment has nothing to do with figure of speech.

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»
» You are a moron, you don’t even know what figure of speech means, Woods
» black on black comment has nothing to do with figure of speech.

No, it has to do with dark skin and dark hair, you know, every time someone plays the race card when it is not necessary it further works to undermine those instances where racial insensitivity should rightfully be exposed.

So quit being a moron.

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Exactly Wylie! This is what he meant !

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dont act inferior YM, we are all brothers after all, im jet black on the outside and red on the inside…be cool bananas:-D

Maybe DrRW is a bit harsh to say that all DrA hts are lousy combovers…
Didnt know Dr Umar was Dr As student…so basically thier technique is the same, why they branding it differently…just call it FUE

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i still don’t get what caused the inital reaction to the video.

other than the massacare of the hair follicles to prove a point (hopefully with the patient’s consent), i don’t get what is the objection.

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» i still don’t get what caused the inital reaction to the video.
»
» other than the massacare of the hair follicles to prove a point (hopefully
» with the patient’s consent), i don’t get what is the objection.

Maybe DrRW shd’ve emphasised that NOT ALL clinics are guilty of destroying follicles.

on the other hand he never said that all clinics are destroying follicles so
Dr A its clear that you picked fight for no reason, he never mentioned names nor did he allude in any way that your clinic is killing follicles…

you really should appologise for attacking DrRW,
no wonder this industry is disgrace

how come you getting all these rewards and medals yet you are lacking common sense,

imagine this case in court of law, how would you convince jury that he attacked you…he was just talking in general

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Freddi 1 follicle not follicles. See how the headline of Dr. A’s first post blows this way out of porportion in the first place? Quote from Dr. Woods. " I destroyed one follicle with patient consent in the interests of public education and awareness of this common dirty secret"

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» » » » “black on black” is it really necessary to use that language? I am
» » an
» » » » African American and I am offended to read that comment especially
» » » coming
» » » » from a doctor. How dare you, who do you think you are?
» » »
»
»
»
» YM, you aint from around these parts, are ya
»
» Because if you were you would understand that “black on black” refers to
» black hair on black or dark skin, decreasing contrast and giving any doctor
» a heck of a lot of lee way, concealing error
»
» I also posted that the same goes for all those whitey snowflakes with grey
» hair …which conceals all sorts of ineptitude.
»
» Yes , and I have received threats from the KKK…
»
» So lets not play the race card…“because I am in favor of anyone or
» anything, as long as it gets the freeway moving” ( Bill Maher quote)
»
» I am against nothing…well , thats not true…what time is it !!!..I am
» late for my AAA Meeting…yup, you guessed it, the
»
» ANTI ARVIND ANONYMOUS
»
» I chair this meeting and try to counsel guys who dont want a HT with
» Arvind, but dream of Bollywood success…seems you have to get past him
» first ( or lay on his "casting Hair transplant couch ) for a crack at the
» big time…I never thought the Spielberg of Bollywood was a production
» line HT guy…certainly fooled me.
»
» But help is at hand. AAA IS HERE FOR YOU
»
»
» Dr Ray Woods

Hmmm…black on brown would have been better by the way…
Up there in indian subcontinent lot of guys(balding and non balding)walk around with side partings or the combovers you refer to,idk it somehow catches the fantasy of older indian guys so its easy to blend in,i worry SO much for the patients down under whom you give “SO CALLED HIGH YIELD LOW GRAFT COUNT COMBOVERS”,must be tough blending in,ehh??..

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»
» Hmmm…black on brown would have been better by the way…
»

Actually no, many people are EXTREMELY offended by ‘brown’, they expect to be called ‘black’ if they are not ‘white’.

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Drs hurling childish insults at each other…hey at least its not boring

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» » » » “black on black” is it really necessary to use that language? I am
» » an
» » » » African American and I am offended to read that comment especially
» » » coming
» » » » from a doctor. How dare you, who do you think you are?
» » »
»
»
»
» YM, you aint from around these parts, are ya
»
» Because if you were you would understand that “black on black” refers to
» black hair on black or dark skin, decreasing contrast and giving any doctor
» a heck of a lot of lee way, concealing error
»
» I also posted that the same goes for all those whitey snowflakes with grey
» hair …which conceals all sorts of ineptitude.
»
» Yes , and I have received threats from the KKK…
»
» So lets not play the race card…“because I am in favor of anyone or
» anything, as long as it gets the freeway moving” ( Bill Maher quote)
»
» I am against nothing…well , thats not true…what time is it !!!..I am
» late for my AAA Meeting…yup, you guessed it, the
»
» ANTI ARVIND ANONYMOUS
»
» I chair this meeting and try to counsel guys who dont want a HT with
» Arvind, but dream of Bollywood success…seems you have to get past him
» first ( or lay on his "casting Hair transplant couch ) for a crack at the
» big time…I never thought the Spielberg of Bollywood was a production
» line HT guy…certainly fooled me.
»
» But help is at hand. AAA IS HERE FOR YOU
»
»
» Dr Ray Woods

Dr. Woods, that is a very lame excuse. Who are you trying to fool? Your cheerleaders/paid shills who are logging in under different aliases? Just answer this: if Dr. Arvind and his patients are all caucasians, will you call his results lousy combover white on white? The answer is no. You made the black on black comment because it adds some weight to your racist innuendo against people of color. It was unnecessary to use that black on black comment, you did it on purpose.

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» »
» » Dr Ray Woods
»
» Dr. Woods, that is a very lame excuse. Who are you trying to fool? Your
» cheerleaders/paid shills who are logging in under different aliases? Just
» answer this: if Dr. Arvind and his patients are all caucasians, will you
» call his results lousy combover white on white? The answer is no. You
» made the black on black comment because it adds some weight to your racist
» innuendo against people of color. It was unnecessary to use that black on
» black comment, you did it on purpose.

By the way, Dr. Woods I don’t need your lapdog “Duck” to speak for you, you are perfectly capable of answering my question unless of course you and Duck are the same person or affiliated somehow.

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I come to this site often to “troll” if you will. I don’t post as some of the garbage posted here is just that…garbage. I come here hoping to read of new procedures/trials/news etc/. I am a repair patient and recently had a consult with Ron Shapiro and Matt Zupan. They made the comment that due to my “salt and pepper” hair it helps camo my poor work (not by Shapiro). Dr. Woods can be very arrogant and antagonstic in his posts…however I totally understood what he went by black on black. If my hair was black…my crappy work would look MUCH worse than it already does. Many of the posters here bring great information to the table, however discredit themselves with childish mudslinging. We are all here for a reason…we hate our hairloss, crappy results, marginally effective medications…Thank you to those that research and post new information, even if it is “5 years away”!!

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Hey Ym slap nut. I ain’t anyones lapdog. Just admire the mans work and what he has done for the industry. I also admire what H&W. Have done as far as strip meggasessions when they were first introduced. Not all docs are on the same level. So I express what I want. Anyway if you adress a question to Dr. Woods I certainly am not going to answer it or any other docs question. Later!

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Lets go back to the beginning

This issue is about graft handling and the effect on yield

I will make the following comments about “some” clinics…NOT ALL

Not All Techs are equal…some are more skilled than others
Techs work shifts…( so check which team is working on your head )
Techs are transient…they move between clinics and in and out of the industry
Techs do the VAST majority of the work,
But Techs are paid relatively poorly…
I know that techs in the third world are paid poorly, but those in western countries are not that well paid, given they do most of the work as well

And techs do most of the work without “big boss man doctor” standing over their shoulders supervising….And if there was constant supervision, the supervisor needs superman vision, or an overhead ophthalmic microscope to see what is really happening at the “bulb level”… constantly…yup, that happens

I know some Techs have formal medical education or are nurses…But , Techs DO NOT require public formal credentialed medical training

I know there are techs who are skilled ethical caring and selfless , despite doing most of the work for peanuts
I suspect there are techs who don’t give a damn .Just like some doctors
NOW, what I have said relates to some clinics, and some techs…NOT ALL

The “DEATH OF A FOLLICLE” video showed patients just how fragile this whole thing is…And now patients are asking the doctors some pertinent questions about graft handling, WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE
Most people think it was a good educational wakeup call…except Arvind

If clinics are doing a good job, they don’t care…

“I don’t bother them, they don’t bother me”

Maybe Arvind doesn’t like being asked about the issues I raised and why he quotes such high numbers…is it because he knows a hell of a lot won’t make it ???

Now YM is trying hard to divert attention from the issues I raised by playing the race card…very skilfully done…only Arvind could match it

Its about contrast…black HAIR on black SKIN…white HAIR on white SKIN….

And finally, I state unequivocally, “that if there’s one thing I detest more than Racism, it’s the Dutch”

Dr Ray Woods

Ps that’s a joke line from Austen Powers “GOLDMEMBER”….so please YM, don’t get your “member” in a knot

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Woods post would have made more sense if he was criticising Arvind for white/black or black/white combination because the contrast will make the transplant look freakish. A combover is a combover, it looks bad doesn’t matter how you do it, if you really must do one, you do it with hair-skin like color match such as black/black or white/white so that it doesn’t look obvious.

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Dr Woods makes a valid point as I can personally vouch for.

I had a transplant from a slash and slit clinic because I didn’t know any better at the time. Most of the work was done by a tech who, even if you were being generous, didn’t inspire confidence.

She may have a been a proper health professional or failed midwife, I don’t know, but she did wear a nurses outfit. Even in my naive state this didn’t reassure me at the time and I felt like doing a runner. I wish I had.

She prodded and poked and the HT surgeon fretted and tutted occasionally but after all this effort few hairs subsequently emerged. I suppose she was poorly paid and undertrained and it wasn’t her fault but it was my head full of holes with no hair growing out of them.

The results were so bad I got a Scalp reduction procedure on the house. I know, us baldies never give up.

If you want my opinion, even if you don’t, chose a clinic where the surgeon does all the work.