Top doctors, you doubt Dr. Umar?

» » » I would like to see an update of the big 18000 grafts he did a year
» ago.
» »
» »
» » So is his current price $7 per graft instead of $5?
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» It has always been $5 for as long as I can remember.

I was recently quoted $7 but $6 for right to photos.

» » Can you please post the link to his pictures? Afterwards we can begin
» a
» » discussion and comparison as to which person has the better most
» accurate
» » representative pictures of the actual result.
»
» This is the one that hairsite posts all the time,
»
»

That’s just what I expected. No top view, no wet view. Where is the full top birds eye view?

You won’t see it. That’s wwhere it is.

This photo is absolutely NO comparison to mine in my blog. My photos and documentation reflect a more accurate representation of the true results.

http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html

» » Can you please post the link to his pictures? Afterwards we can begin
» a
» » discussion and comparison as to which person has the better most
» accurate
» » representative pictures of the actual result.
»
» Here’s the link
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-13566.html
»
» Wassup’s photos have to be the best documented results or at the least at
» the very top on how to take clear, large, consistent photos in natural day
» light. I think many forum members will agree on this regardless of whether
» they like FUE or not or whether they like Dr. Cole or not.

Those pictures are good,but I still say why won’t he post after photos with his hair WET?

I guarantee you there would be a different story if he did. Also, looks to me, in my opinion, there could be some toppik in his hair.

» That’s just what I expected. No top view, no wet view. Where is the full
» top birds eye view?
»
» You won’t see it. That’s wwhere it is.
»

Below are some photos from my first 3 strip procedures around 5700+ grafts:

http://www.forhair.com/Photo_Gallery/Strip_patient--5750_grafts_in_three_procedures/

there’s a video at the bottom of the page of the above link - it’s prior to HT #5 where you can see my hair a little wet (around 30+ second mark), dry, pre-op, post-op, after a little scar-repair, etc…

Here’s 800 or so pictures from my last 2 FIT procedures…

FIT procedure #1 around 1100 grafts starts about here:

http://www.forhair.com/hairtransplant/album_personal.php?user_id=134&sort_method=pic_time&sort_order=DESC&start=784

FIT procedure # 2 around 1500 grafts start here:

http://www.forhair.com/hairtransplant/album_personal.php?user_id=134&sort_method=pic_time&sort_order=DESC&start=464

over 8300 grafts so far…

I did manage to dig some wet photos up and post them in the url below. there are only after HT #3 though - and I’ve had another 2 surgeries, 2500 FIT grafts placed since then:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-26854-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer.html

» Those pictures are good,but I still say why won’t he post after photos
» with his hair WET?
»
» I guarantee you there would be a different story if he did. Also, looks
» to me, in my opinion, there could be some toppik in his hair.

I’ve never used toppik. I do use styling gel in some pictures though.

Got2B spiking gel (more dry-like):

American Crew styling gel (more wet-like):

below are some wet pictures with nothing in my hair but these are from a while back, before my last 2 FIT procedures, so I’ve had another 2500 grafts placed since then but here they are:

» » » » I would like to see an update of the big 18000 grafts he did a year
» » ago.
» » »
» » »
» » » So is his current price $7 per graft instead of $5?
» »
» » It has always been $5 for as long as I can remember.
»
» I was recently quoted $7 but $6 for right to photos.

Does it depend on how many grafts or $7 flat whether you get 100 or 10,000 grafts?

» » » Can you please post the link to his pictures? Afterwards we can
» begin
» » a
» » » discussion and comparison as to which person has the better most
» » accurate
» » » representative pictures of the actual result.
» »
» » Here’s the link
» »
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-13566.html
» »
» » Wassup’s photos have to be the best documented results or at the least
» at
» » the very top on how to take clear, large, consistent photos in natural
» day
» » light. I think many forum members will agree on this regardless of
» whether
» » they like FUE or not or whether they like Dr. Cole or not.
»
»
» Those pictures are good,but I still say why won’t he post after photos
» with his hair WET?
»
» I guarantee you there would be a different story if he did. Also, looks
» to me, in my opinion, there could be some toppik in his hair.

You are so wrong. Wassup is the real deal.

» » » » » I would like to see an update of the big 18000 grafts he did a
» year
» » » ago.
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » So is his current price $7 per graft instead of $5?
» » »
» » » It has always been $5 for as long as I can remember.
» »
» » I was recently quoted $7 but $6 for right to photos.
»
» Does it depend on how many grafts or $7 flat whether you get 100 or 10,000
» grafts?

Maybe if I get the time I’ll have to call and ask to see… Remember the work he did on Heliboy…amazing.

There is no doubt that Heliboy’s life has been transformed by Dr Umar - and that is amazing - but let’s not confuse this with ‘Amazing’ BHT.

Not even plain solid good BHT results have ever been demonstrated with large numbers of BHT grafts on a person with severe hair loss.

» By reddyfreddie:
»
» “I am glad so many people recommend dr Umar because frankly there is not 1
» picture from him that impresses me. It’s always tons of grafts with very
» minimal results. I always ask myself why would someone be pleased with
» that?”
»
» Just one of many successes by Dr. Umar:
»
» http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html

I never said he is a bad doctor. It just that his work doesn’t impress me considering the # of grafts he used, I am entitled to my opinion :slight_smile:

And I posted that my case was just one of many successful cases performed by Dr. Umar, and then I provided a link to my blog which clearly shows my degree of success.

KeepinitShorter,
your blog is very hard to navigate to get detailed information (total number of grafts, how many scalp and how many BHT).

Your second procedure has only had six months so there could be more growth to come, however, looking at your 2008 page and the side-by-side comparison then the ‘degree of success’ looks very small indeed.

Please do not take this personally, a customer has little influence over growth - I just cannot see the success you are talking about.

»
» And I posted that my case was just one of many successful cases performed
» by Dr. Umar, and then I provided a link to my blog which clearly shows my
» degree of success.
»

»
» KeepinitShorter,
» your blog is very hard to navigate to get detailed
» information (total number of grafts, how many scalp and how many BHT).
»
» Your second procedure has only had six months so there could be more
» growth to come, however, looking at your 2008 page and the side-by-side
» comparison then the ‘degree of success’ looks very small indeed.
»
» Please do not take this personally, a customer has little influence over
» growth - I just cannot see the success you are talking about.

The information as far as number of grafts, etc, was provided at the beginning of an earlier thread. Perhaps, I need to incorporate this information on my blog as well.

As far as my blog being hard to navigate through, I can’t imagine what deficiency might prevent you from doing so; my 13 year old niece has no problems whatsoever navigating through and following my blog.

In the second procedure Dr. Umar placed 1200 grafts in the crown and middle top area of my head. The grafts were derived from the nape of my neck, around the ears, and some from the traditional donor area. You can see in the photos after my surgery where the grafts were taken extracted.

Anyone who is educated about aspects pertaining to hair transplantation can clearly see that for only 1200 grafts I had a great degree of success, and I achieved very good coverage for the amount of grafts. Furthermore, for 1200 grafts my photos show the amount of coverage one could expect.

You see, my photographs are clear, up close, the before and after photos are taken at the same angles, the before and after photos are taken in the same lighting conditions, and they are both taken with dry hair as opposed to the before being taken with wet hair, and the after taken with dry hair.

With my photos there is no attempt at deception and that is clear. Perhaps you are used to viewing photographs on this forum in which the photos do not have the characteristics that mine do which leaves NO DOUBT as to the actual result achieved based on the number of grafts received.

When I say hard to navigate I mean hard to work through and get the
information in order to make an evaluation. For instance I cannot see a plan view of the head before the first procedure, so how can one evaluate the result ? Maybe it is there but I did not see it. Let me say that people who make the effort to show their results sould be applauded, but honest responses to those results are needed.

I do not think the results are anything special on the second procedure, there is an improvement but it is not a lot and Joe Blow would still see they are looking at a balding crown. If you are happy with that result then that is fine, it is certainly better than nothing.

I am concerned that you are trying to ‘prove’ that ‘your’ procedure is so great and are so defensive at views which do not concur. The best posters of results do so without being so desperate to prove how wonderful their doctor is.

» I do not think the results are anything special on the second procedure,
» there is an improvement but it is not a lot and Joe Blow would still see
» they are looking at a balding crown. If you are happy with that result then
» that is fine, it is certainly better than nothing.
»
» I am concerned that you are trying to ‘prove’ that ‘your’ procedure is so
» great and are so defensive at views which do not concur. The best posters
» of results do so without being so desperate to prove how wonderful their
» doctor is.

Alright I’ll concede. You’re right, I really didn’t get that great of a result. With 1200 grafts being placed in my bald area, I was expecting my area to be completely filled in and as thick as it was before I ever started losing any hair. I’m calling Dr. Umar first thing Monday morning and tell him I want my money back.

Then I’m going to take my money to this clinic, where with only 2000 grafts, I can get a result like this!

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-25287-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer.html

» KeepinitShorter,
» your blog is very hard to navigate to get detailed
» information (total number of grafts, how many scalp and how many BHT).

Yea, good pics but it is a bit hard to follow. It would be nice if you could put the basic info such as grafts count and how many months upfront so that I know what I am evaluating

I’m calling Dr. Umar first thing Monday morning and tell him I want my money back.

Keepitshorter,
regardless of their professionalism, HT doctors are running a business, I doubt you would get any money back :slight_smile:

Hopefully you will put your “before” pictures up, which will make your blog (which I think does have good photos) more informative.

» I’m calling Dr. Umar first thing Monday morning and tell him I want my
» money back.
»

»
» Keepitshorter,
» regardless of their professionalism, HT doctors are running
» a business, I doubt you would get any money back :slight_smile:
»
» Hopefully you will put your “before” pictures up, which will make your
» blog (which I think does have good photos) more informative.

I didn’t expect you to get the sarcasm.

Thank you for your observations. As previously stated, to anyone educated in HT procedures and realistic expectations it is obvious that for 1200 grafts I achieved an excellent result.

Class: The photograph on the right is the BEFORE picture. The photograph on the LEFT is the AFTER picture.

Class dismissed.

I didn’t expect you to get the sarcasm.

No of course I didn’t get it, you are just so clever :slight_smile:

» I didn’t expect you to get the sarcasm.
»
» No of course I didn’t get it, you are just so clever :slight_smile:

Lol, I knew you did.

Cheers bro.

» » I do not think the results are anything special on the second procedure,
» » there is an improvement but it is not a lot and Joe Blow would still
» see
» » they are looking at a balding crown. If you are happy with that result
» then
» » that is fine, it is certainly better than nothing.
» »
» » I am concerned that you are trying to ‘prove’ that ‘your’ procedure is
» so
» » great and are so defensive at views which do not concur. The best
» posters
» » of results do so without being so desperate to prove how wonderful
» their
» » doctor is.
»
»
» Alright I’ll concede. You’re right, I really didn’t get that great of a
» result. With 1200 grafts being placed in my bald area, I was expecting my
» area to be completely filled in and as thick as it was before I ever
» started losing any hair. I’m calling Dr. Umar first thing Monday morning
» and tell him I want my money back.
»
»
»
» Then I’m going to take my money to this clinic, where with only 2000
» grafts, I can get a result like this!
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-25287-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer.html

You don’t have to be all defensive, they are constructive criticisms. You have good pics and a very informative blog. A clearer heading will make it easier for people to know what you had done at first glance, it will make your blog even better than it already is.

BTW, the Prohair 2000 grafts picture is amazing although I suspect there is some hair thickening products used in the after shot.