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#1

Update.

Well, it looks like most of the hairs along the “new hairline” and the area slightly above it has fallen off. I do still see hairs there but they are very vellous now. I don’t know what happened, hopefully it only fell off to grow back stronger but who knows. But on the positive side, the new hairs along my god given hairline are very strong looking. They are dark and terminal and I would say they are about slightly less than a quarter of an inch long. I pull my hair back and I can see them sticking up. Furthermore, my scalp still looks slightly diffused but the skin underneath appears to be darker and it is very obvious. I know these are new growth because if I see it on my hairline and I did my whole top… it has to be new hairs. – Not newly generated hairs I assume but newly rejuvenated hairs. I could be wrong again about the origin of it being new or rejuv… All in all, my tmeline to give it a solid evaluation is the end of March like I said b4. It is looking very promising right now. Although I wanted a hairline that is straight accross, what I’m coming out with now I can’t really complain. Beggers can’t be choosers, right? I’m still planning to do another run at this in May, whether I need it or not because greed is good damn it!:smiley:


#2

the great news, good luck mikewalters, and congratulations for its courage together with baccy.


#3

good for you,man!:slight_smile:


#4

» Update.
»
» Well, it looks like most of the hairs along the “new hairline” and the
» area slightly above it has fallen off. I do still see hairs there but they
» are very vellous now. I don’t know what happened, hopefully it only fell
» off to grow back stronger but who knows. But on the positive side, the new
» hairs along my god given hairline are very strong looking. They are dark
» and terminal and I would say they are about slightly less than a quarter of
» an inch long. I pull my hair back and I can see them sticking up.
» Furthermore, my scalp still looks slightly diffused but the skin underneath
» appears to be darker and it is very obvious. I know these are new growth
» because if I see it on my hairline and I did my whole top… it has to be
» new hairs. – Not newly generated hairs I assume but newly rejuvenated
» hairs. I could be wrong again about the origin of it being new or rejuv…
» All in all, my tmeline to give it a solid evaluation is the end of March
» like I said b4. It is looking very promising right now. Although I wanted
» a hairline that is straight accross, what I’m coming out with now I can’t
» really complain. Beggers can’t be choosers, right? I’m still planning to
» do another run at this in May, whether I need it or not because greed is
» good damn it!:smiley:

Go for it m8!

I’m not ready to update really as yet but I can say that at this point, I’m cautiously optimistic. I now use minox morning and evening and in between I use a topical roxithromycin and a topical caffeine at a different time. These topicals (except for minox of course) are all mixed in dmso and then themselves mixed in emu oil.
I will update as and when I have something to report.


#5

» » Update.
» »
» » Well, it looks like most of the hairs along the “new hairline” and the
» » area slightly above it has fallen off. I do still see hairs there but
» they
» » are very vellous now. I don’t know what happened, hopefully it only
» fell
» » off to grow back stronger but who knows. But on the positive side, the
» new
» » hairs along my god given hairline are very strong looking. They are
» dark
» » and terminal and I would say they are about slightly less than a quarter
» of
» » an inch long. I pull my hair back and I can see them sticking up.
» » Furthermore, my scalp still looks slightly diffused but the skin
» underneath
» » appears to be darker and it is very obvious. I know these are new
» growth
» » because if I see it on my hairline and I did my whole top… it has to
» be
» » new hairs. – Not newly generated hairs I assume but newly rejuvenated
» » hairs. I could be wrong again about the origin of it being new or
» rejuv…
» » All in all, my tmeline to give it a solid evaluation is the end of
» March
» » like I said b4. It is looking very promising right now. Although I
» wanted
» » a hairline that is straight accross, what I’m coming out with now I
» can’t
» » really complain. Beggers can’t be choosers, right? I’m still planning
» to
» » do another run at this in May, whether I need it or not because greed
» is
» » good damn it!:smiley:
»
» Go for it m8!
»
» I’m not ready to update really as yet but I can say that at this point,
» I’m cautiously optimistic. I now use minox morning and evening and in
» between I use a topical roxithromycin and a topical caffeine at a different
» time. These topicals (except for minox of course) are all mixed in dmso and
» then themselves mixed in emu oil.
» I will update as and when I have something to report.

Hello!

It’s good to hear some advances! Baccy I have a question for you. How did you get the topical Roxithromycin? Crushing pills? Or it’s a prepared formulation?

Thanks!


#6

» »»
» It’s good to hear some advances! Baccy I have a question for you. How did
» you get the topical Roxithromycin? Crushing pills? Or it’s a prepared
» formulation?
»
» Thanks!

Hi m8. I crushed 10x 50mg pills into some dmso and then mixed this in emu oil. The pills dissolve very well in the solution. I just hope they are genuine pills as I got them from an online Indian pharmacy for one of my previous experiments.


#7

» » »»
» » It’s good to hear some advances! Baccy I have a question for you. How
» did
» » you get the topical Roxithromycin? Crushing pills? Or it’s a prepared
» » formulation?
» »
» » Thanks!
»
» Hi m8. I crushed 10x 50mg pills into some dmso and then mixed this in emu
» oil. The pills dissolve very well in the solution. I just hope they are
» genuine pills as I got them from an online Indian pharmacy for one of my
» previous experiments.

I forgot to mention that I have begun to give off a vague fishy smell that I credit to the dmso. I wasn’t aware of the smell until someone asked me if I’d been eating fish. Whilst using Mike’s topical, I didn’t have any odour issues and I think that it increased my confidence with it and in making subsequent topicals, I’ve used too much. I’m reducing the amount of dmso in my topicals. Just use enough to dissolve the active ingedient.


#8

Thanks for keeping us informed of your progress–I look forward to reading your updates. Couple of questions, if you don’t mind:

-regarding your darker scalp skin on top, 1.) how diffuse are you (understanding that even 50% diffused hairloss on the top/crown area could still give the ‘appearance’ of a full head of hair); and 2.) over what size surface area (in centimeters or inches squared) did you apply the treatment?

-does it look like you are getting slow follicle formation/development under the skin in those darker areas (eg., a slowed-down version of the five o’clock shadow men tend to get when they shaved earlier that morning), or are you actually seeing terminal hairs.

-if you did sprout or are sprouting hairs from those darker areas, how much, percentage-wise, would you guess the increase to be? (let’s say, if you doubled your hair-count, it would be a 100% increase)

-why getfitinib as opposed to other EGFR drugs, and how can one get a hold of it? please email me if you prefer.

Thanks very much!

Regards,

-ESP


#9

» Thanks for keeping us informed of your progress–I look forward to reading
» your updates. Couple of questions, if you don’t mind:
»
» -regarding your darker scalp skin on top, 1.) how diffuse are you
» (understanding that even 50% diffused hairloss on the top/crown area could
» still give the ‘appearance’ of a full head of hair); and 2.) over what size
» surface area (in centimeters or inches squared) did you apply the
» treatment?

I would say I was 40%-50% gone from my youth. My top is ctill covered but see through although not as much now. My hairline I would say is a NW 2’ish and slowly getting better.
»
»
» -does it look like you are getting slow follicle formation/development
» under the skin in those darker areas (eg., a slowed-down version of the
» five o’clock shadow men tend to get when they shaved earlier that morning),
» or are you actually seeing terminal hairs.

I would say the coverage is pretty good with the new sprouts. I would go out on a limb and say these are rejuvenated hairs. It is causing a 5 o’clock shadow and they are growing at a slower rate. Growing slower than my original hairs but not nearly as slow as the “newly formed hairs”, which btw seemed to have fallen off. I still have a light coat in the once totally bald areas on my temples. It would be a bonus if I can get these to form and grow.
»
» -if you did sprout or are sprouting hairs from those darker areas, how
» much, percentage-wise, would you guess the increase to be? (let’s say, if
» you doubled your hair-count, it would be a 100% increase)
»

I would say 10% – 20% conservatively, that is why I’m planning to do this again in May.
»
» -why getfitinib as opposed to other EGFR drugs, and how can one get a hold
» of it? please email me if you prefer.

I don’t know, that what the patent said to use. I only have 1 pill left and might have to order again soon but I don’t need 30 pills. I forget where it’s from since someone else did the ordering for me. I will look into it soon.
»
» Thanks very much!
»
»
» Regards,
»
» -ESP


#10

» »» I don’t know, that what the patent said to use. I only have 1 pill left
» and might have to order again soon but I don’t need 30 pills. I forget
» where it’s from since someone else did the ordering for me. I will look
» into it soon.
» »
» » »I’d also like to know where to get the gefitinib from in case I do another run at it. If I do, it won’t be until September.

I’m getting VERY prominent follicles showing on top of my scalp. I mean, these babies are HUGE compared to the ones around them. And yes, they are growing hair. Intermediate hair I would say. I think they may be follicles rejuvenated in the first successful experiment, but stimulated into further development by my latest try with topical gefit. Or they may be entirely new follicles. It’s hard to say. They are spread out here and there with smaller follicles in between. I’ll give it 3 months and post pictures if I get any further development.
That, plus the fact that I’ve got some new solitary hairs here and there, is the reason for my cautious optimism. It’s only been a month since the wounding so it’s too early to say but I can’t help being a LITTLE excited.


#11

glad to see that you and mike have noticed some progress in your experiment!
and welcome to these new babies!i hope for them to grow strong!:slight_smile:


#12

Sorry, I meant to say that I would be interested in purchasing a couple of gefit tabs myself too but it came out as a quote. :frowning: I’d appreciate it Mike if you let me know where you get yours from and can you purchase small quantities?


#13

» Sorry, I meant to say that I would be interested in purchasing a couple of
» gefit tabs myself too but it came out as a quote. :frowning: I’d appreciate it
» Mike if you let me know where you get yours from and can you purchase small
» quantities?

I have 1 pill left myself and plan to use it in May. This attempt I will try to up wnt with some topical other than the act of wounding itself. If I can remember right, it was like $12.50 per pill. The problem is having to buy 30 of them which I don’t really need unless u try this the oral route. Depending on your degree of hairloss, I’m guessing doing this treatment every few months is all u need to do to get back into hair healthy shape. I’m still hoping someone will find a more effective way in doing this maybe in timing of the egfr or other things. I’m hoping baccy really hits this on his trials so that I won’t have much to question in my next attempt. In terms of the pill, u will only need maybe 4-5 pills to give this a go. I don’t know what the shelf life is on this but if u do 5 layers of peel, the earliest I would do the next peel is 4-5 months after. 4-5 pills will give u close to 2 years of treatment and the remaining pills will be spoiled. So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is required. If u have money to blow u can buy the whole thing all by ur lonesome since about $400 isn’t too much to blow if u know u can get positive results. Getfitnib topically + wounding does help grow hairs. The only ones I can see for sure is on my hairline and a little further up. It is a decent amount and it is spread out. I kind of see it as fillers between my existing hairs which will help a ton with the diffused top I have.


#14

That sounds very promising Baccy Mikewalters.

Out of interest you guys used 30% tca peel at five layers right? Which would be very deep. I haven’t heard of anyone else going this deep. I’m wondering whether these positive results have more to do with the severity of the peel, more than than the use of EGFR-I.

In which case if a wnt upregulator was used with the same depth of peel it could produce as good or better results.

Good luck guys.


#15

» » » I have 1 pill left myself and plan to use it in May. This attempt I will
» try to up wnt with some topical other than the act of wounding itself. If
» I can remember right, it was like $12.50 per pill. The problem is having
» to buy 30 of them which I don’t really need unless u try this the oral
» route. Depending on your degree of hairloss, I’m guessing doing this
» treatment every few months is all u need to do to get back into hair
» healthy shape. I’m still hoping someone will find a more effective way in
» doing this maybe in timing of the egfr or other things. I’m hoping baccy
» really hits this on his trials so that I won’t have much to question in my
» next attempt. In terms of the pill, u will only need maybe 4-5 pills to
» give this a go. I don’t know what the shelf life is on this but if u do 5
» layers of peel, the earliest I would do the next peel is 4-5 months after.
» 4-5 pills will give u close to 2 years of treatment and the remaining pills
» will be spoiled. So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is required.
» If u have money to blow u can buy the whole thing all by ur lonesome since
» about $400 isn’t too much to blow if u know u can get positive results.
» Getfitnib topically + wounding does help grow hairs. The only ones I can
» see for sure is on my hairline and a little further up. It is a decent
» amount and it is spread out. I kind of see it as fillers between my
» existing hairs which will help a ton with the diffused top I have.

You can count me in on the group buy. We also need a legit source so that we don’t get counterfeit drugs. As wounding itself is enough to produce hair, we would not know if the gefit is genuine.


#16

» » » » I have 1 pill left myself and plan to use it in May. This attempt I
» will
» » try to up wnt with some topical other than the act of wounding itself.
» If
» » I can remember right, it was like $12.50 per pill. The problem is
» having
» » to buy 30 of them which I don’t really need unless u try this the oral
» » route. Depending on your degree of hairloss, I’m guessing doing this
» » treatment every few months is all u need to do to get back into hair
» » healthy shape. I’m still hoping someone will find a more effective way
» in
» » doing this maybe in timing of the egfr or other things. I’m hoping
» baccy
» » really hits this on his trials so that I won’t have much to question in
» my
» » next attempt. In terms of the pill, u will only need maybe 4-5 pills
» to
» » give this a go. I don’t know what the shelf life is on this but if u do
» 5
» » layers of peel, the earliest I would do the next peel is 4-5 months
» after.
» » 4-5 pills will give u close to 2 years of treatment and the remaining
» pills
» » will be spoiled. So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is required.
»
» » If u have money to blow u can buy the whole thing all by ur lonesome
» since
» » about $400 isn’t too much to blow if u know u can get positive results.
»
» » Getfitnib topically + wounding does help grow hairs. The only ones I
» can
» » see for sure is on my hairline and a little further up. It is a decent
» » amount and it is spread out. I kind of see it as fillers between my
» » existing hairs which will help a ton with the diffused top I have.
»
» You can count me in on the group buy. We also need a legit source so that
» we don’t get counterfeit drugs. As wounding itself is enough to produce
» hair, we would not know if the gefit is genuine.

me too


#17

» » » » » I have 1 pill left myself and plan to use it in May. This attempt
» I
» » will
» » » try to up wnt with some topical other than the act of wounding itself.
»
» » If
» » » I can remember right, it was like $12.50 per pill. The problem is
» » having
» » » to buy 30 of them which I don’t really need unless u try this the
» oral
» » » route. Depending on your degree of hairloss, I’m guessing doing this
» » » treatment every few months is all u need to do to get back into hair
» » » healthy shape. I’m still hoping someone will find a more effective
» way
» » in
» » » doing this maybe in timing of the egfr or other things. I’m hoping
» » baccy
» » » really hits this on his trials so that I won’t have much to question
» in
» » my
» » » next attempt. In terms of the pill, u will only need maybe 4-5 pills
» » to
» » » give this a go. I don’t know what the shelf life is on this but if u
» do
» » 5
» » » layers of peel, the earliest I would do the next peel is 4-5 months
» » after.
» » » 4-5 pills will give u close to 2 years of treatment and the remaining
» » pills
» » » will be spoiled. So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is
» required.
» »
» » » If u have money to blow u can buy the whole thing all by ur lonesome
» » since
» » » about $400 isn’t too much to blow if u know u can get positive
» results.
» »
» » » Getfitnib topically + wounding does help grow hairs. The only ones I
» » can
» » » see for sure is on my hairline and a little further up. It is a
» decent
» » » amount and it is spread out. I kind of see it as fillers between my
» » » existing hairs which will help a ton with the diffused top I have.
» »
» » You can count me in on the group buy. We also need a legit source so
» that
» » we don’t get counterfeit drugs. As wounding itself is enough to produce
» » hair, we would not know if the gefit is genuine.
»
» me too

… sum one again .


#18

» » » » I have 1 pill left myself and plan to use it in May. This attempt I
» will
» » try to up wnt with some topical other than the act of wounding itself.
» If
» » I can remember right, it was like $12.50 per pill. The problem is
» having
» » to buy 30 of them which I don’t really need unless u try this the oral
» » route. Depending on your degree of hairloss, I’m guessing doing this
» » treatment every few months is all u need to do to get back into hair
» » healthy shape. I’m still hoping someone will find a more effective way
» in
» » doing this maybe in timing of the egfr or other things. I’m hoping
» baccy
» » really hits this on his trials so that I won’t have much to question in
» my
» » next attempt. In terms of the pill, u will only need maybe 4-5 pills
» to
» » give this a go. I don’t know what the shelf life is on this but if u do
» 5
» » layers of peel, the earliest I would do the next peel is 4-5 months
» after.
» » 4-5 pills will give u close to 2 years of treatment and the remaining
» pills
» » will be spoiled. So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is required.
»
» » If u have money to blow u can buy the whole thing all by ur lonesome
» since
» » about $400 isn’t too much to blow if u know u can get positive results.
»
» » Getfitnib topically + wounding does help grow hairs. The only ones I
» can
» » see for sure is on my hairline and a little further up. It is a decent
» » amount and it is spread out. I kind of see it as fillers between my
» » existing hairs which will help a ton with the diffused top I have.
»
» You can count me in on the group buy. We also need a legit source so that
» we don’t get counterfeit drugs. As wounding itself is enough to produce
» hair, we would not know if the gefit is genuine.

I would like to get in on this also- hell I’d even be willing to pay for the whole lot if u would spell out step by step your procedures.(exact concentrations of topical mixture, when exactly to apply, how long, exact wounding procedure,etc.)


#19

» So a group buy of 6 people (5 pills each) is required.

I’m interested in a group buy as well.

But isn’t a 30 pack of gefitinib something like $1300?

EDIT: Just noticed this 99.9% powder form gefitinib for 190 Euro/10mg:
http://www.proteinkinase.biz/page.php?modul=GoShopping&op=show_article&aid=306&cid=78

It is also available as 99.0% for 95 Euro


#20

We also need a legit source so that we don’t get counterfeit drugs. As wounding itself is enough to produce hair, we would not know if the gefit is genuine.

Unfortunately the price of non-generic Genfilitib is huge.