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State of HM research


#1

I rarely visit this site anymore therefore I’m not up to speed with the state of HM research. Can someone tell me the reason that there is no treatment to date. Is it because there is an effective treatment but we are waiting for regulatory approval. Or is it that there still is not an effective HM treatment.


#2

3-4 years ago I would have said there’s no effective treatment.

Today I think we’re just getting to the effective treatments. We’ve got a few more years of regulatory stuff before we see them on the commercial market.

The biggest player is Aderans, and the next is possibly Histogen. There are numerous threads on them.


#3

» I rarely visit this site anymore therefore I’m not up to speed with the
» state of HM research. Can someone tell me the reason that there is no
» treatment to date. Is it because there is an effective treatment but we are
» waiting for regulatory approval. Or is it that there still is not an
» effective HM treatment.

There is an effective treatment. Look up Histogen. Not possibly as the previous poster said, but surely. Look up their 1 year follow-up results and you will be amazed. They say they can have it available in Asia as soon as 2013. I don’t think Ardens can move that fast, as I’ve read they’ll present their phase II results at the end of this year. This means they’ll start phase III in 2011. I think Histogen is ahead.


#4

» » I rarely visit this site anymore therefore I’m not up to speed with the
» » state of HM research. Can someone tell me the reason that there is no
» » treatment to date. Is it because there is an effective treatment but we
» are
» » waiting for regulatory approval. Or is it that there still is not an
» » effective HM treatment.
»
»
» There is an effective treatment. Look up Histogen. Not possibly as the
» previous poster said, but surely. Look up their 1 year follow-up results
» and you will be amazed. They say they can have it available in Asia as soon
» as 2013. I don’t think Ardens can move that fast, as I’ve read they’ll
» present their phase II results at the end of this year. This means they’ll
» start phase III in 2011. I think Histogen is ahead.

What phase are Histogen in? Phase III testing? I always thought that ARI were ahead.


#5

»
» What phase are Histogen in? Phase III testing? I always thought that ARI
» were ahead.

They haven’t even done a phase I. Anyone who thinks Histogen is a sure thing is kidding themselves.


#6

» »
» » What phase are Histogen in? Phase III testing? I always thought that
» ARI
» » were ahead.
»
» They haven’t even done a phase I. Anyone who thinks Histogen is a sure
» thing is kidding themselves.

Ahhhhhh good old fckhrlsSOAB

Always good for distractiong other guys who are just looking for some easy answers for their questions.

Please why dont you crawl under a rock and simply die (i mean stay away from this forum)

To answer the thread starters question :

There are a lot of different approches in the field of HM. Some with Stem Cells, some with stimulating complexes and a lot more.

There are very promising results, even GHO has recently released some manifest about his procedure.

I think we can cross our fingers to have a cure by late 2011/2012


#7

If Adreans do well in phase III, can they come to market straight away?


#8

» If Adreans do well in phase III, can they come to market straight away?

Yes and No :expressionless:


#9

» »
» » What phase are Histogen in? Phase III testing? I always thought that
» ARI
» » were ahead.
»
» They haven’t even done a phase I. Anyone who thinks Histogen is a sure
» thing is kidding themselves.

They have done phase I. They did it on a very small scale, true. But they had 100% success rate. Why do i think they are ahead ARI? Because they are doing everything in Asia and the regulations there are not as strict as in the U.S. Therefore i find it logical to think that they are getting a jump-start.

Now, I’m not saying their treatment will be available in the U.S before ARI’s. I’m just saying i think it will be available before ARI’s.


#10

» » If Adreans do well in phase III, can they come to market straight away?
»
» Yes and No :expressionless:

Can you explain yourself, thanks


#11

» » » If Adreans do well in phase III, can they come to market straight
» away?
» »
» » Yes and No :expressionless:
»
» Can you explain yourself, thanks

YES they could if NO they were actually in Phase III but they are in Phase 2


#12

»
» They have done phase I.

Do you have a link verifying this?


#13

» »
» » They have done phase I.
»
» Do you have a link verifying this?

I received this email a few days back from histogen.

Thank you for your interest and message. Histogen has recently completed the pilot clinical trial of HSC for hair regrowth, and will be entering into a Phase II equivalent trial late this year. The primary goal of the pilot trial was to examine safety of the HSC product, with efficacy being secondary. The next trial will further evaluate safety and efficacy, but will also examine optimal product dosing and delivery


#14

» » »
» » » They have done phase I.
» »
» » Do you have a link verifying this?
»
» I received this email a few days back from histogen.
»
»
» Thank you for your interest and message. Histogen has recently completed
» the pilot clinical trial of HSC for hair regrowth, and will be entering
» into a Phase II equivalent trial late this year. The primary goal of the
» pilot trial was to examine safety of the HSC product, with efficacy being
» secondary. The next trial will further evaluate safety and efficacy, but
» will also examine optimal product dosing and delivery

So they haven’t done a phase I (a “pilot clinical trial” is not a phase I trial), and are moving on to a “phase II equivalent” - the vocabulary this company chooses to use is very concerning. What is a “phase II equivalent”?


#15

What is a “phase II
» equivalent”?

A phase II equivalent is an alternative phase to the clearly regulated Phase II in the U.S. I keep saying they are conducting their research in Asia. There is a damned good reason for that. It’s the only way they can get a quick launch.

Fckhrls, are you always such a skeptic?


#16

» Fckhrls, are you always such a skeptic?

Recently, Fckhrls wrote things like

  • Dr. Gho is a sca*mer
  • HM companies are just spammer
  • Iron Man is an a*shole

So why do you think he is skeptic? :smiley:


#17

» » Fckhrls, are you always such a skeptic?
»
» Recently, Fckhrls wrote things like
»
» - Dr. Gho is a scamer
» - HM companies are just spammer
» - Iron Man is an a
shole
»
» So why do you think he is skeptic? :smiley:

:smiley:

So you think he might hold some Merck stocks? Or working for a transplant doctor who fears losing his job in the future? Maybe he’s just a conservative. Anything is possible, but one thing is sure: he seems resistant to new approaches.

yet…he might be right about Dr. Gho


#18

» » » Fckhrls, are you always such a skeptic?
» »
» » Recently, Fckhrls wrote things like
» »
» » - Dr. Gho is a scamer
» » - HM companies are just spammer
» » - Iron Man is an a
shole
» »
» » So why do you think he is skeptic? :smiley:
»
» :smiley:
»
» So you think he might hold some Merck stocks? Or working for a transplant
» doctor who fears losing his job in the future? Maybe he’s just a
» conservative. Anything is possible, but one thing is sure: he seems
» resistant to new approaches.
»
» yet…he might be right about Dr. Gho

Fckhrls is just an ordinary whiny as*hole nothing more END OF STORY:-D