[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by cal[/postedby]
Whatever dude.
You got great a response with a strong topical AA + strong Minox. But it produced sides and did not last very long. That sounds like a fairly normal response to that regimen to me.
But you have decided it’s not because this was too strong of a regimen, and it produced a great rebound response but it could not be sustained (like normally happens.) No, for you, this was because the regimen was fine but you unfortunately “just got sides from it” and then you suddenly got “bad drugs” when it stopped working.
Umm, yeah.
We’ve been watching people experiment with androgen-fighting methods for MPB for years. Decades. Castration, all sorts of topicals, 5ar drugs . . . we have a good consistent picture of what androgen fighting is capable of. Here it is: Androgen fighting won’t regrow large amounts of hair. SEVERE androgen shutdown + SEVERE estrogen boosting (Gender-changing) regimens actually will regrow lost hair. But the hair only comes back when the regimen is strong enough to basically be a sex change attempt. We’ve seen this played out many times.
Now you are saying this Samumed thing might be prepping for an early release of a workable product just because they are extending phase#2 to biopsies (amid a few rumors of bad results). This is basically another WNT boost attempt from what I read a while back. Does that really sound very promising? I doubt it.[/quote]
I was the one buying the stuff and I know whether or not there
was something peculiar about specific transactions. In fact, I decided to
quit buying the stuff because he was making large amounts and he
would sell some and keep the rest around for months for later sales.
The problem is that he did not do any studies to find the best way
to preserve the potency of the stuff. The legitimate company did
those studies and they knew how to store it, but the black-marketers
did not know that stuff. I did talk with Roussel Uclaf on the
phone numerous times and there is a specific way the stuff has to
be stored and they would not disclose that to me. I was on very
friendly terms with them but they would not give me that
information because they did not want to be responsible for me
using a product that was not approved. The RU black-marketers
are sometimes selling good product but sometimes they’re selling RU
that is months old and is not stored properly. Period.
Androgen reduction can grow large amounts of hair but you have to
do total, or almost total, androgen reduction. I used RU with
minoxidil most of the times I got regrowth but minoxidil never
worked on me so it was the RU that grew the hair. Sometimes
I only used RU and that also grew lot of hair on me sometimes.
I did this for about 4 - 6 years and then gave up on RU.
You may be able to cure hair loss via Wnt activation without
causing sexual side effects if Wnt activity is further
downstream than the point of sexual side effects. In
other words the stream might look something like this:
Anti-androgen – sexual side effects — Wnt activation — hair growth.
So if you do Wnt activation you could be entering that stream after
the point of sexual side effects on that stream, thereby bypassing
sexual side effects.
There’s also the possibility that either point (Wnt activation or
sexual side effects) could be on a stream that branched off from
the original anti-androgen stream, which means that you could
possibly affect one without affecting the other if you do
your intervention past the point where the branch occurred.
Anti-androgen therapy may be just the beginning of a stream
with a number of key points and branches before you get to
the end of that stream.