Questions for a potentail ht *with pic*

Hair Transplant
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my questions…

  1. how would you think is shockloss risk at me?

  2. i want 4000 FUE in the frontal region (about 100 cm² so i have hair even if shockloss is really bad and its for future)

  3. how many body grafts can you take from the average male arms and legs?

i got about 1000-2000 at my body (without arms and legs)

one body graft has 1,5 hairs right? how many of them averagley grow?

i need body grafts and a strip ht for future loss , thats why im asking.

i still calculate wiht hm, thats why i want to do FUE first and avoid a scar.

which doc would you choose? he shouldnt be too expensive , so cole and armani are not a choice for me. but i think are some other good docs (arvind , heitmann, bisanga maybe??? )

thx for your answers!

its a thought with the ht…but its good to know whats possible for me.

maybe even want to suggest me to not do a ht.

thx!

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dont do it. Didn’t you regrow some hair with topicals earlier ? Let’s wait for HM together :slight_smile:

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» my questions…
»
» 1. how would you think is shockloss risk at me?
»
» 2. i want 4000 FUE in the frontal region (about 100 cm² so i have hair
» even if shockloss is really bad and its for future)
»
» 3. how many body grafts can you take from the average male arms and legs?
»
» i got about 1000-2000 at my body (without arms and legs)
»
» one body graft has 1,5 hairs right? how many of them averagley grow?
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»
» i need body grafts and a strip ht for future loss , thats why im asking.
»
» i still calculate wiht hm, thats why i want to do FUE first and avoid a
» scar.
»
» which doc would you choose? he shouldnt be too expensive , so cole and
» armani are not a choice for me. but i think are some other good docs
» (arvind , heitmann, bisanga maybe??? )
»
» thx for your answers!
»
» its a thought with the ht…but its good to know whats possible for me.
»
» maybe even want to suggest me to not do a ht.
»

you said you want 100 grafts /sq cm, body hair density at that level will have zero growth, the optimum is 30 per sq

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» dont do it. Didn’t you regrow some hair with topicals earlier ? Let’s wait
» for HM together :slight_smile:

yes i regrew some.

well lets wait for 25th of september and lets see how it looks with hm.

:slight_smile:

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» you said you want 100 grafts /sq cm, body hair density at that level will
» have zero growth, the optimum is 30 per sq

i said i have 100 cm². not 100 grafts/cm². if i dont have shockloss it will turn out like 70-80 grafts/cm².

i just want to know my options. im especially interested in how many grafts you can take from arms and legs and how many of them generally grow.

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» »
» » you said you want 100 grafts /sq cm, body hair density at that level
» will
» » have zero growth, the optimum is 30 per sq
»
» i said i have 100 cm². not 100 grafts/cm². if i dont have shockloss it
» will turn out like 70-80 grafts/cm².
»
» i just want to know my options. im especially interested in how many
» grafts you can take from arms and legs and how many of them generally
» grow.

sory but you must not be measuring right

you have at least 6 by 6 inches
which transplates to about 15 x 15 cm or 225 cm2

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»I was thinking along the same line, you need to remeasure the area to be transplanted because it looks like a lot more then 100 cm2.

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i just want to transplant the first half for first.

the crown is still thick. but thats why i am asking for fue/strip kombi with body grafts coz i might loose that later.

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» i just want to transplant the first half for first.
»
» the crown is still thick. but thats why i am asking for fue/strip kombi
» with body grafts coz i might loose that later.

even the front half of the top hair is 6 inches by 6 inches , which is still 225 cm2

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You have quite a difuse thinning throught out. I would highly suggest proscar first and then think about what you want to do. I think that you could get a good result but i think that you should wait til 6 months after proscar to see how you responded. You could be highly affected by shock loss considering that you are thin already.

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If you ask me, I think you are high risk for shock loss. Have you spoken to any of the doctors? What did they say about possibility of shock loss?

I suspect most would probably downplay shock loss being an issue. They might just tell you what you want to hear. Regardless, you have to know that the odds are not in your favor. Diffuse thinning is always tricky.

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» If you ask me, I think you are high risk for shock loss. Have you spoken to
» any of the doctors? What did they say about possibility of shock loss?
»
» I suspect most would probably downplay shock loss being an issue. They
» might just tell you what you want to hear. Regardless, you have to know
» that the odds are not in your favor. Diffuse thinning is always tricky.

The last thing i would worry about is shock loss… you WILL get shock loss and if you don’t you should be surprised. The better question is whether the shock loss will grow back. It probably won’t because, barring a great proscar response that hair is on its way out.

You will replace it with permanent hair but at what density? If you can get to the same position that you are at now with just a tiny bit more density and room for more donor as thing progress (and they will) then that is about as good as it gets (4000-5000 FUE). If you can live with that then great (your in the same boat as me). If you can’t then don’t do anything because YOU will get a shock. Good luck and my two pennies is that you should go for it because even if you end up with the same density, at least you won’t have to get up every day wondering how much more has fallen out and obsessing! Again, good luck.

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well thx for your responses guys.

first, i know its about 100 cm ² (without temple area which i will let there) because i let it measure. so its sure , its 100 cm²

maybe i should send my photo to some highly respected docs like cole or arvind and see what they say about shockloss.

i know from a guy has much knowledge about hair transplants (a consultant for heitmann, bisanga, cole and some other docs) that i would probably lose 20 % forever. im not concerned about temporary shockloss. if the grows back then its fine. i know i will have temporary shockloss anyway. thats for sure, but will it grow back for the most?

i asked in a german forum and i got the response that a good doc most of the hair should grow back after shockloss.
i want to add 4000 FUE even because i want to have as much as before even if everything falls out. at least then i got hair which will stay.

but can you maybe answer me the question , how many body grafts can you take from normal arms and legs and how many grow if you ,lets say, add 30 grafts per cm² per transplant? i know its not good to add high density especially with body grafts because they wont grow for a good part.

oh and my regimen is

fin
minox
eucapil
folligen
nizoral
zink
biotin

:slight_smile:

so its not that i dont do anything with meds :wink:

im even asking about transplants and its possibilities coz if i go the transplant route (maybe even get a scar) then i want to have full hair at least or at least good hair. i dont need teenager density, but a density like 55 grafts overall.

i will have 200 cm² when everything falls out, which will happen at some time. so i need to know if i can get these 55 * 200 = 11.000 grafts with a fue/strip combi and body grafts.

i think i can get 7000 grafts with a FUE/strip combi. then i still need 4000 grafts from body grafts. i will need more though because body grafts just have 1.5 hairs per cm² and dont grow that good like scalp grafts.

it will probably cost me about 30.000 € at the end.

and for this price i want full hair (55 grafts). i dont want to go the transplant route if i just can get some thinning hair in the front and an empty crown. and that for this price and a strip scar. thats not worth it.
in this case i will more likely accept a bald head and razor it (when its time for it).

i still hope for hm or other new technologies. i just want to know whats possible with transplants so i got an option if these things never come out.

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» well thx for your responses guys.
»
» first, i know its about 100 cm ² (without temple area which i will let
» there) because i let it measure. so its sure , its 100 cm²
»
» maybe i should send my photo to some highly respected docs like cole or
» arvind and see what they say about shockloss.
»
» i know from a guy has much knowledge about hair transplants (a consultant
» for heitmann, bisanga, cole and some other docs) that i would probably
» lose 20 % forever. im not concerned about temporary shockloss. if the
» grows back then its fine. i know i will have temporary shockloss anyway.
» thats for sure, but will it grow back for the most?
»
» i asked in a german forum and i got the response that a good doc most of
» the hair should grow back after shockloss.
» i want to add 4000 FUE even because i want to have as much as before even
» if everything falls out. at least then i got hair which will stay.
»
» but can you maybe answer me the question , how many body grafts can you
» take from normal arms and legs and how many grow if you ,lets say, add 30
» grafts per cm² per transplant? i know its not good to add high density
» especially with body grafts because they wont grow for a good part.
»
» oh and my regimen is
»
» fin
» minox
» eucapil
» folligen
» nizoral
» zink
» biotin
»
» :slight_smile:
»
» so its not that i dont do anything with meds :wink:
»
»
» im even asking about transplants and its possibilities coz if i go the
» transplant route (maybe even get a scar) then i want to have full hair at
» least or at least good hair. i dont need teenager density, but a density
» like 55 grafts overall.
»
» i will have 200 cm² when everything falls out, which will happen at some
» time. so i need to know if i can get these 55 * 200 = 11.000 grafts with a
» fue/strip combi and body grafts.
»
» i think i can get 7000 grafts with a FUE/strip combi. then i still need
» 4000 grafts from body grafts. i will need more though because body grafts
» just have 1.5 hairs per cm² and dont grow that good like scalp grafts.
»
» it will probably cost me about 30.000 € at the end.
»
» and for this price i want full hair (55 grafts). i dont want to go the
» transplant route if i just can get some thinning hair in the front and an
» empty crown. and that for this price and a strip scar. thats not worth
» it.
» in this case i will more likely accept a bald head and razor it (when its
» time for it).
»
» i still hope for hm or other new technologies. i just want to know whats
» possible with transplants so i got an option if these things never come
» out.

I havent seen your pics but most people will get more than 7000 grafts from a strip/FUE combo. I also think you might have to much on your regiment, it seems a little excessive.