Pls explain something

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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It this HM putting new hairs, if it works, if so where? Is it putting them right into the old follicles? If so are these basically bringing dead follicles back to life with new hair material or giving a boost to dead or non producing follicles

If the old follicles are brought back to life is the hair the same direction as the hairs in the old follicles

If its making new follicles, what determines the hair direction, this is extremely important…if its wrong the hair looks totally bizarre, better to be bald

what about hairs in the hairline, are the HM hairs able to produce one hair grafts to feather the hairline

this is what you guys dont talk about much

even if HM can grow hair, it could still be a totally unusable breakthrough if the new hairs are not directed at the right angle

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Hanging, these issues were beaten to death already, it’s the whole debate about follicular rejuvenation vs follicular neogenesis.

3

» Hanging, these issues were beaten to death already, it’s the whole debate
» about follicular rejuvenation vs follicular neogenesis.

so whats the answer, what determines the hair direction

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» It this HM putting new hairs, if it works, if so where? Is it putting them
» right into the old follicles? If so are these basically bringing dead
» follicles back to life with new hair material or giving a boost to dead or
» non producing follicles
»
» If the old follicles are brought back to life is the hair the same
» direction as the hairs in the old follicles
»
» If its making new follicles, what determines the hair direction, this is
» extremely important…if its wrong the hair looks totally
» bizarre, better to be bald
»
» what about hairs in the hairline, are the HM hairs able to produce one
» hair grafts to feather the hairline
»
» this is what you guys dont talk about much

haha…man you’re like a day late and a dollar short. there are numerous threads discussing these topics. for somebody who says over and over “HM is a pipe dream” why the hell should it matter? Use your super vitamins to get some more brain power.

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» » It this HM putting new hairs, if it works, if so where? Is it putting
» them
» » right into the old follicles? If so are these basically bringing dead
» » follicles back to life with new hair material or giving a boost to dead
» or
» » non producing follicles
» »
» » If the old follicles are brought back to life is the hair the same
» » direction as the hairs in the old follicles
» »
» » If its making new follicles, what determines the hair direction, this
» is
» » extremely important…if its wrong the hair looks totally
» » bizarre, better to be bald
» »
» » what about hairs in the hairline, are the HM hairs able to produce one
» » hair grafts to feather the hairline
» »
» » this is what you guys dont talk about much
»
» haha…man you’re like a day late and a dollar short. there are numerous
» threads discussing these topics. for somebody who says over and over “HM
» is a pipe dream” why the hell should it matter? Use your super vitamins to
» get some more brain power.

in other words that question goes over your head also, amazing how none of you guys can even answer the question so you sling insults

guess the answer must be hair direction cannot be predicted, or controlled, which is what I suspected, which makes HM a joke

thanks for confirming this by your silence and refusal to answer it:-)

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» » » It this HM putting new hairs, if it works, if so where? Is it putting
» » them
» » » right into the old follicles? If so are these basically bringing dead
» » » follicles back to life with new hair material or giving a boost to
» dead
» » or
» » » non producing follicles
» » »
» » » If the old follicles are brought back to life is the hair the same
» » » direction as the hairs in the old follicles
» » »
» » » If its making new follicles, what determines the hair direction, this
» » is
» » » extremely important…if its wrong the hair looks totally
» » » bizarre, better to be bald
» » »
» » » what about hairs in the hairline, are the HM hairs able to produce
» one
» » » hair grafts to feather the hairline
» » »
» » » this is what you guys dont talk about much
» »
» » haha…man you’re like a day late and a dollar short. there are
» numerous
» » threads discussing these topics. for somebody who says over and over
» “HM
» » is a pipe dream” why the hell should it matter? Use your super vitamins
» to
» » get some more brain power.
»
» in other words that question goes over your head also, amazing how none of
» you guys can even answer the question so you sling insults
»
» guess the answer must be hair direction cannot be predicted, or
» controlled, which is what I suspected, which makes HM a joke
»
» thanks for confirming this by your silence and refusal to answer it:-)

If you had any sence you’d go straight to Intercytex website.They run a whole page of question and answers

see link

http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/aesthetic/icxtrc/faqsicxtrc/

Hangin Regimen this must keep you busy,as well as puting over a thousand messages on hairsite - I could say this is a joke,but I won’t.

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max …Chelated Multi Mineral…2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,after Shampoo

I personally take one propecia a day and enjoy my life

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» » » » It this HM putting new hairs, if it works, if so where? Is it
» putting
» » » them
» » » » right into the old follicles? If so are these basically bringing
» dead
» » » » follicles back to life with new hair material or giving a boost to
» » dead
» » » or
» » » » non producing follicles
» » » »
» » » » If the old follicles are brought back to life is the hair the same
» » » » direction as the hairs in the old follicles
» » » »
» » » » If its making new follicles, what determines the hair direction,
» this
» » » is
» » » » extremely important…if its wrong the hair looks totally
» » » » bizarre, better to be bald
» » » »
» » » » what about hairs in the hairline, are the HM hairs able to produce
» » one
» » » » hair grafts to feather the hairline
» » » »
» » » » this is what you guys dont talk about much
» » »
» » » haha…man you’re like a day late and a dollar short. there are
» » numerous
» » » threads discussing these topics. for somebody who says over and over
» » “HM
» » » is a pipe dream” why the hell should it matter? Use your super
» vitamins
» » to
» » » get some more brain power.
» »
» » in other words that question goes over your head also, amazing how none
» of
» » you guys can even answer the question so you sling insults
» »
» » guess the answer must be hair direction cannot be predicted, or
» » controlled, which is what I suspected, which makes HM a joke
» »
» » thanks for confirming this by your silence and refusal to answer it:-)
»
» If you had any sence you’d go straight to Intercytex website.They run a
» whole page of question and answers
»
» see link
»
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/aesthetic/icxtrc/faqsicxtrc/
»
» Hangin Regimen this must keep you busy,as well as puting over a thousand
» messages on hairsite - I could say this is a joke,but I won’t.
»
» Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
» Kal Amino Max …Chelated Multi Mineral…2/day
»
» DHT blockers (daily intake)
» Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
» Pygeum 500mg
» Nettles 500mg
» Beta Sitosterol 125mg
» 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,after Shampoo
»
» I personally take one propecia a day and enjoy my life

if propecia is so great why are you on the HM board?
must not be working so good for you

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Intercytex
TrichoCyte (ICX-TRC):
Cell Based Hair Regeneration Therapy
Interview with
Dr. Paul Kemp
Founder & Chief Scientific Officer

Traditional Hair Transplant Techniques,
Minoxidil & Propecia

Dr. Kemp does not anticipate that ICX-TRC will completely obsolete traditional hair transplant procedures the moment it becomes available to the public. There will be first generation ICX-TRC, second generation ICX-TRC, and third generation ICX-TRC etc. over time. Hair transplant will still have a role to play in the beginning especially for the hairline design. However, the demand for traditional hair transplant procedures may diminish as each succeeding ICX-TRC protocol becomes more refined and perfect than its predecessors. Also, younger patients who just started losing their hair may turn to ICX-TRC before they consider more invasive options such as hair transplant. If ICX-TRC is administered to a patient early enough upon initial signs of hair loss, this may eliminate the need for traditional hair transplant procedures entirely later on in his life.

While it is believed that the role of traditional hair transplant may diminish over time, products such as minoxidil and Propecia will still have an important role to play when ICX-TRC becomes available to the general public. These products will be an important adjunct that complement ICX-TRC induced hair growth.

See link
http://www.hairsite.com/intercytex-hair-multiplication.htm

Its easy to find information if you look,try looking.

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» if propecia is so great why are you on the HM board?
» must not be working so good for you

Not quite correct.I’ve got a thinning nw3.No bald patch on top of my head.Propecia works.I even had a little bit of hair growth,not much,but a little.I’m interested in HM,due to the fact I’d like more hair.

I shave my hair down with WALH balding clippers at the moment.It looks better that thinning hair,especially now I’ve a lovely tanned look.

Go on do what you do.Have a swipe back

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» » if propecia is so great why are you on the HM board?
» » must not be working so good for you
»
» Not quite correct.I’ve got a thinning nw3.No bald patch on top of my
» head.Propecia works.I even had a little bit of hair growth,not much,but a
» little.I’m interested in HM,due to the fact I’d like more hair.
»
» I shave my hair down with WALH balding clippers at the moment.It looks
» better that thinning hair,especially now I’ve a lovely tanned look.
»
» Go on do what you do.Have a swipe back

yes ur nick is baldie that pretty much sums it up

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you guys worship ICX like they are your leader or something,
well ICX says this, ICX says that, so it must be so, Read what ICX says in their website blah blah blah

who cares what they say

asking that company what HM will do for you… is like asking a car dealership if you need a new car

the answer is a bit biased

you think they are going to not fluff and exaggerate the potential of their product and not downplay the drawbacks you have rocks in your head

you dont understand business

you guys on this HM board are like sheep, lapping up anything ICX says

anytime you get information on a product what it will do or wont do, preferably get it from an unbiased third party, not the ones who have everything to lose by revealing that their product is not that great

by your way of analysis, you would invest in a company based on the fact that that company, …the one who you are investing with,says its a great investment

nice way to lose all of your money

do you expect ICX to come out and say, well, this product is not that great, it doesnt work that well, and it wont be out for another 10 yrs maybe 15, if that is the case

if you do believe that, if this scenario was accurate, that the company would fess up to it, you have a lot to learn about the real world

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» yes ur nick is baldie that pretty much sums it up

Well aren’t we bright,but I look good.

GOOD NIGHT.Its in the evening in the UK.I bet you have to have last word - I’ll read it tomorrow if I get time - HA HA

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» » Intercytex
» » TrichoCyte (ICX-TRC):
» » Cell Based Hair Regeneration Therapy
» » Interview with
» » Dr. Paul Kemp
» » Founder & Chief Scientific Officer
» »
» » Traditional Hair Transplant Techniques,
» » Minoxidil & Propecia
» »
» » Dr. Kemp does not anticipate that ICX-TRC will completely obsolete
» » traditional hair transplant procedures the moment it becomes available
» to
» » the public. There will be first generation ICX-TRC, second generation
» » ICX-TRC, and third generation ICX-TRC etc. over time. Hair
» » transplant will still have a role to play in the beginning especially
» for
» » the hairline design. However, the demand for traditional hair
» » transplant procedures may diminish as each succeeding ICX-TRC protocol
» » becomes more refined and perfect than its predecessors. Also, younger
» » patients who just started losing their hair may turn to ICX-TRC before
» » they consider more invasive options such as hair transplant. If ICX-TRC
» is
» » administered to a patient early enough upon initial signs of hair loss,
» » this may eliminate the need for traditional hair transplant procedures
» » entirely later on in his life.
» »
» » While it is believed that the role of traditional hair transplant may
» » diminish over time, products such as minoxidil and Propecia will still
» » have an important role to play when ICX-TRC becomes available to the
» » general public. These products will be an important adjunct that
» » complement ICX-TRC induced hair growth.
» »
» » See link
» » http://www.hairsite.com/intercytex-hair-multiplication.htm
» »
» » Its easy to find information if you look,try looking.
»
» asking that company what HM will do is like asking a car dealership if you
» need a new car
»
» the answer is a bit biased
»
» you think they are going to not fluff and exaggerate the potential of
» their product and not downplay the drawbacks you have rocks in your head
»
» you dont understand business
»
» you guys on this HM board are like sheep, lapping up anything ICX says
»
» anytime you get information on a product what it will do or wont do,
» preferably get it from an unbiased third party, not the ones who have
» everything to lose by revealing that their product is not that great
»
» by your way of analysis, you would invest in a company based on the fact
» that that company, …the one who you are investing
» with,says its a great investment
»
» nice way to lose all of your money
»
» do you expect ICX to come out and say, well, this product is not that
» great, it doesnt work that well, and it wont be out for another 10 yrs
» maybe 15, if that is the case
»
» if you do believe that, if this scenario was accurate, that the company
» would fess up to it, you have a lot to learn about the real world

GOODNIGHT HanginInThere

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Hanginginthere,

This topic came up numerous times. The truth is that as of now, nobody knows if it is rejuvenation or neogenesis that they are doing.

Copied from interview with Intercytex last year:
http://www.hairsite.com/intercytex-hair-multiplication.htm

"When asked about the age-old question of whether this type of cell therapy rejuvenates existing follicles or creates new ones, Dr. Kemp said it is not really their goal to understand how the new hairs are formed. It could very well be a combination of both. More in-depth studies and research are necessary before an intelligent answer can be deliberated. At this point, Intercytex’s main focus is to ensure that the protocol is capable of delivering a cosmetically acceptable difference in the test subjects. "

Ideally neogenesis would be preferable because it means we can create brand new follicules anywhere we want.

Right now the researchers’ focus is on generating hair growth, whether the growth is by means of rejuvenation or neogenesis is secondary.

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» in other words that question goes over your head also, amazing how none of
» you guys can even answer the question so you sling insults
»
» guess the answer must be hair direction cannot be predicted, or
» controlled, which is what I suspected, which makes HM a joke
»
» thanks for confirming this by your silence and refusal to answer it:-)

no in other words this question has been asked so much that you could google the question by now and it would turn up in the search results probably. not only was the answer on the ICX website but it is on this website with the Kemp interview.

you should educate yourself before you slam something you don’t understand. you think HM is such a joke but even in it’s phase I trials it’s grown more hair then your superman vitamins.

what is the motive of your posts? to call everyone idiots by following HM research? nobody in here is “worshipping” HM technology. you can’t be mad if people believe in it more than your flinstone vitamins.

you slam HT, HM and propecia…but what solutions do you offer? if you don’t like HM and think it’s BS then suit yourself. you’re not saving anyone from anything by posting a thousand threads per day on why everything is a joke or a “pipe dream.”

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» » in other words that question goes over your head also, amazing how none
» of
» » you guys can even answer the question so you sling insults
» »
» » guess the answer must be hair direction cannot be predicted, or
» » controlled, which is what I suspected, which makes HM a joke
» »
» » thanks for confirming this by your silence and refusal to answer it:-)
»
» no in other words this question has been asked so much that you could
» google the question by now and it would turn up in the search results
» probably. not only was the answer on the ICX website but it is on this
» website with the Kemp interview.
»
» you should educate yourself before you slam something you don’t
» understand. you think HM is such a joke but even in it’s phase I trials
» it’s grown more hair then your superman vitamins.
»
» what is the motive of your posts? to call everyone idiots by following HM
» research? nobody in here is “worshipping” HM technology. you can’t be mad
» if people believe in it more than your flinstone vitamins.
»
» you slam HT, HM and propecia…but what solutions do you offer? if you
» don’t like HM and think it’s BS then suit yourself. you’re not saving
» anyone from anything by posting a thousand threads per day on why
» everything is a joke or a “pipe dream.”

regrowing hair is useless on the scalp if the direction of the hair cannot be controlled…so this makes HM, even if it works…basically a joke

and you guys want to glaze over this issue as if it is just a distraction, when in fact it is the deal breaker

funny how you guys seem more and more like the lawrence cutslinger group

if the solution to this hair direction problem, is …grow the hairs in a petri dish in the lab and then…“implant” them, now you have to deal with getting a hair transplant, paying for that, as well as paying for the HM to grow the hairs,if this is even possible

seems more like a pipedream every day

for those of you who have no defense of HM other than,hey hangin its better than your regimen…Really? I never claimed my regimen was a baldness cure, its the best for me, thats why i use it, but if you cannot defend HM on its own, without comparing it to other regimens, that is really sad and lame. HM is not even approved and available , yet you guys defend it as if it were

pathetic really

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Ok HanginInThere,

Everybody in this forum hopes that Intercytex will give us the oppertuntity to grow back our hair.
This is why we all try to think posite and analyze the data which Intercytex provide us with, the best way.

I understand that you don’t want to feel like that way. It is ok. You are free to be believe what ever you want to believe.
You may feel that this is to good to be true.

But!

We already know that ICX-TRC produces hairs and that is a fact that has been proven. We already know that direction is and will not be a major issue.

So why should we be pesimistic?

The only thing we wait is the successful completion of phase II.

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We already know that direction is and will not be a major
» issue.

How do you know this?

Because ICX said so?

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… this guy is a troll.

Arguments with him are reminiscent of those Shampoo is Evil arguments that were popular on this board a few months ago. I think ironically this character was on the side of reason then.

Seriously, his posts are childish and hostile, and often reek of a five year old “I told you so” attitude or personal attacks. Before I saw it so clearly, I tried to engage in intelligent discourse with him. You can see below what that resulted in. My suggestion is that you do what I am about to do now, which is to simply treat him like the troll he is, and ignore him.

Remember, trolls thrive on attention, and that’s obviously what he’s here for.

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» … this guy is a troll.

Prepare to be called an idiot, a moron, or to get a life. Gosh, I can’t wait for this to unravel. :slight_smile: