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Permanent Hairloss from Hair Pulling


#1

I posted this in an existing thread, but I thought it important enough to give it a thread of its own.

There might be a way to easily find out if repeated plucking of hairs over many years results in permanent hairloss.

Simply examine case histories of people who have trichotillomania or hair-pulling disorder.

According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichotillomania ), such people with this disorder can suffer permanent loss of hair.

Which may support my hypothesis that a follicle can only regrow hair a fixed number of times.

Or if my hypothesis is incorrect, it might be that repeated pulling out of hair eventually does permanent injury to follicles (scarring alopecia).

Either way, it would seem wise for physicians to pull most of the hairs from a different small donor region for each pull-and-plant session, to avoid pulling hair from the same follicles more than once.


#2

Also note that this plucking method is specially severe, as it removes a lot of “stuff” from the follicle.
I have plucked myself 3 hairs from the side of my head and none had cells attached.

So I think special research should be done on the donor regeneration. On the scalp.

Hitzig told Kobren that he has harvested beard follicles more than 6 times, and it still grows back. But he does not know if scalp will be the same. As you know he is starting now experimenting with scalp hairs.

To avoid harvesting twice the same follicle the safest thing would be to harvest all the follicles in a given area, and skip that area next time.

» I posted this in an existing thread, but I thought it important enough to
» give it a thread of its own.
»
» There might be a way to easily find out if repeated plucking
» of hairs over many years results in permanent hairloss.
»
» Simply examine case histories of people who have trichotillomania or
» hair-pulling disorder.
»
» According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichotillomania ),
» such people with this disorder can suffer permanent loss of hair.
»
» Which may support my hypothesis that a follicle can only regrow hair a
» fixed number of times.
»
» Or if my hypothesis is incorrect, it might be that repeated pulling out of
» hair eventually does permanent injury to follicles (scarring alopecia).
»
» Either way, it would seem wise for physicians to pull most of the hairs
» from a different small donor region for each pull-and-plant session, to
» avoid pulling hair from the same follicles more than once.


#3

» Also note that this plucking method is specially severe, as it removes a
» lot of “stuff” from the follicle.
» I have plucked myself 3 hairs from the side of my head and none had cells
» attached.

I’m pretty sure I once heard that when you pluck a hair that comes out cleanly, with no tissue attached, then that hair was ready to fall out on its own in the normal course of the hair cycle.

Try plucking a young hair (a young hair should be easy to identify, because it will be shorter than the hairs around it, and also will gradually taper to an almost invisible tip as opposed to the scissor cut tip of an old hair).

Let me know how the root of a young hair looks after you pluck it.

(I hope Hitzig and Cooley and Bernstein know this)


#4

I will try tomorrow. Plucking from the side is difficult. I don’t want to pluck from the front because they are weak and I don’t want to punish them further.

» » Also note that this plucking method is specially severe, as it removes a
» » lot of “stuff” from the follicle.
» » I have plucked myself 3 hairs from the side of my head and none had
» cells
» » attached.
»
» I’m pretty sure I once heard that when you pluck a hair that comes out
» cleanly, with no tissue attached, then that hair was ready to fall out on
» its own in the normal course of the hair cycle.
»
» Try plucking a young hair (a young hair should be easy to identify,
» because it will be shorter than the hairs around it, and also will
» gradually taper to an almost invisible tip as opposed to the scissor cut
» tip of an old hair).
»
» Let me know how the root of a young hair looks after you pluck it.
»
» (I hope Hitzig and Cooley and Bernstein know this)


#5

I know a guy who is about a Norwood 7, plus he also has trichotillomania, where for years he was obsessively twirling and pulling out the last remaining hairs on his head. Now he is completely bald over his entire scalp. So he has basically no remaining hairs to pull out at this point. I think it really does cause permanent hairloss.

» I posted this in an existing thread, but I thought it important enough to
» give it a thread of its own.
»
» There might be a way to easily find out if repeated plucking
» of hairs over many years results in permanent hairloss.
»
» Simply examine case histories of people who have trichotillomania or
» hair-pulling disorder.
»
» According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichotillomania ),
» such people with this disorder can suffer permanent loss of hair.
»
» Which may support my hypothesis that a follicle can only regrow hair a
» fixed number of times.
»
» Or if my hypothesis is incorrect, it might be that repeated pulling out of
» hair eventually does permanent injury to follicles (scarring alopecia).
»
» Either way, it would seem wise for physicians to pull most of the hairs
» from a different small donor region for each pull-and-plant session, to
» avoid pulling hair from the same follicles more than once.


#6

Not per se.

I have a mole on my upper arm, and i always pluck a singe black hair which grows (i did this well for more then 3 years now) and it always come back.

I think that with this “psychological har plucking” there is a connectivity to a gene defect. like the body gets sick from the hair and forces to remove it.

And there are cases where people grew their hair back after such a phase.

It depends on every persons individual health status


#7

» Not per se.
»
» I have a mole on my upper arm, and i always pluck a singe black hair which
» grows (i did this well for more then 3 years now) and it always come back.
»
» I think that with this “psychological har plucking” there is a
» connectivity to a gene defect. like the body gets sick from the hair and
» forces to remove it.
»
» And there are cases where people grew their hair back after such a phase.
»
» It depends on every persons individual health status

Threes years very likely isn’t long enough.

Keep doing it and report back after 15-20 years.


#8

Wowo ok lets assume you get your hairtransplant plucking every year for 15 years well… You look like a chewbacca Elvis by then :wink:

And also plucking hair just with your hands and not support the micro wounds with some healing stuff like acell is a huge difference.

Oh and before you ask, the hair diameter is the same like three years before :wink:

So i think the “HOW” is the key to this whole thing.

But maybe someone here will perform a Do it Yourself thing.

Lets assume for one second somebody would try this at home and it would totally work


#9

I have plucked 3 young hairs on the left side of my head, but none of them had anything attached.
I don’t know how Cooley was plucking the hairs. He produced a bit of bleeding in the female patient. Normal plucking of a hair doesn’t produce any bleeding. I have plucked myself 6 hairs and I felt almost nothing.

» I will try tomorrow. Plucking from the side is difficult. I don’t want to
» pluck from the front because they are weak and I don’t want to punish them
» further.
»
»
» » » Also note that this plucking method is specially severe, as it removes
» a
» » » lot of “stuff” from the follicle.
» » » I have plucked myself 3 hairs from the side of my head and none had
» » cells
» » » attached.
» »
» » I’m pretty sure I once heard that when you pluck a hair that comes out
» » cleanly, with no tissue attached, then that hair was ready to fall out
» on
» » its own in the normal course of the hair cycle.
» »
» » Try plucking a young hair (a young hair should be easy to identify,
» » because it will be shorter than the hairs around it, and also will
» » gradually taper to an almost invisible tip as opposed to the scissor
» cut
» » tip of an old hair).
» »
» » Let me know how the root of a young hair looks after you pluck it.
» »
» » (I hope Hitzig and Cooley and Bernstein know this)


#10

Try plucking your head off your neck
than slather some acell over your neck stump.
With some luck, your newly grown head with have a functioning brain.

» I have plucked 3 young hairs on the left side of my head, but none of them
» had anything attached.
» I don’t know how Cooley was plucking the hairs. He produced a bit of
» bleeding in the female patient. Normal plucking of a hair doesn’t produce
» any bleeding. I have plucked myself 6 hairs and I felt almost nothing.
»
»
» » I will try tomorrow. Plucking from the side is difficult. I don’t want
» to
» » pluck from the front because they are weak and I don’t want to punish
» them
» » further.
» »
» »
» » » » Also note that this plucking method is specially severe, as it
» removes
» » a
» » » » lot of “stuff” from the follicle.
» » » » I have plucked myself 3 hairs from the side of my head and none had
» » » cells
» » » » attached.
» » »
» » » I’m pretty sure I once heard that when you pluck a hair that comes
» out
» » » cleanly, with no tissue attached, then that hair was ready to fall
» out
» » on
» » » its own in the normal course of the hair cycle.
» » »
» » » Try plucking a young hair (a young hair should be easy to identify,
» » » because it will be shorter than the hairs around it, and also will
» » » gradually taper to an almost invisible tip as opposed to the scissor
» » cut
» » » tip of an old hair).
» » »
» » » Let me know how the root of a young hair looks after you pluck it.
» » »
» » » (I hope Hitzig and Cooley and Bernstein know this)


#11

» Try plucking your head off your neck
» than slather some acell over your neck stump.
» With some luck, your newly grown head with have a functioning brain.

Thanks for the input. You are doing very well. :clap:


#12

» » Try plucking your head off your neck
» » than slather some acell over your neck stump.
» » With some luck, your newly grown head with have a functioning brain.
»
» Thanks for the input. You are doing very well. :clap:

I hear you talking when you should plucking.