Pats205 Armani experience

» Have ya ever been to ANY transplant clinics?!? The “consultants” are NOT
» medical professionals in ANY clinic that I have visited, and I have been to
» many. I have never heard anyone besides Dr. Armani giving what you would
» call “medical” advice. Maybe I am biased here, but it seems to me that you
» have tried to pick apart every good result ever posted here by any surgeon.
» If it is not the result, you criticize the clinic for one reason or
» another. Do you live in a perfect world where you never make mistakes? I
» don’t think that transplants are for you no matter who the surgeon.
»
» Why do you “hope that it is not the norm”? Are you planning on seeing Dr.
» Armani? Didn’t think so.

I went for a consultation with the Norton Clinic in the UK.The consultant A.k.A. The Salesman,would of stood a better chance of selling me a pair of jeans.

The advise given was to have 750 - 1000 grafts,then stay on propecia and you’ll never lose anymore - what bullsh*t!

He only had a quick look at my hair.I think they must sell on the basis that once your in the trap,your in for life

If you have a consultation with someone who’s had a hair transplant,at least you get to see one up close.There’s a lot of clinics that have seminers,etc and you still don’t get that.

Research research and more research before you do anything,thats the best advise!

A consultant has NEVER given me any advice that could be termed “medical” advice. The surgeon has ALWAYS decided on the number of grafts and placement and every other aspect of the procedure that is medical in nature. What do you consider “medical” advice?

I know that you are not a cheerleader for any surgeon, which begs the question of why you are here?

Pats205’s results are very good no matter who the surgeon.

»
» dude, i m not trying to be an ass but that you had ht done doesn’t
» necessarily prepare u to be a consultant, i hope this is not the norm at
» Armani’s clinic where everyone who has a ht ends up giving medical advice
» for hair loss.

I am not a consultant, I am involved in patient care, this involves answering general questions and inquires the customer may have. I am simply someone who can give a different perspective then most seeing that I’ve already been through what the patient will be undergoing. I can offer what to expect after surgery and the upcoming months based on my experience…

I am one of many people the patient may speak with, I feel I offer a different view then most,I feel I can relate to the patient on a more personal level because I have been through the surgery myself. I am not giving medical advice by any means. We have qualified people at the Armani clinic who offer that.

Eric, what a difference, you must be very happy. Now that you had tried both FUE and STRIP, do you prefer one over the other?

» Eric, what a difference, you must be very happy. Now that you had tried
» both FUE and STRIP, do you prefer one over the other?

Recovery wise the difference was night and day between FUE and Strip. Fue recovery was so much easier.

» » Eric, what a difference, you must be very happy. Now that you had tried
» » both FUE and STRIP, do you prefer one over the other?
»
» Recovery wise the difference was night and day between FUE and Strip. Fue
» recovery was so much easier.

Nice pics. Does Armani shave the donor before taking out the grafts via fue?

IPOD, Yes the donor and recipient areas are shaven down, this allows him to see the angulation of the hair and to insure no transectioning of the grafts.

» IPOD, Yes the donor and recipient areas are shaven down, this allows him to
» see the angulation of the hair and to insure no transectioning of the
» grafts.

Pats,
Excellent results, what can I say that you dont know already.
I have a couple of questions Id like you to answer if you could:

  1. You had your first surgery where in Toronto?
  2. Where both surgeries performed by Dr. Armani or by his trained doctor, especially regarding the LA clinic.
  3. What was the cost of both surgeries.
  4. Could you elaborate more on the diff. on recovery times between the strip and FUE? I bet you were knocked down for more than a month on the strip. How long after with FUE that you were fine to get on with life.

Cheers!

» Hey Johnp, I understand, as a middle aged man a more mature hairline would
» be much more suitable. Check out this result below, this is an Armani
» patient with a very nice rebuilt mature hairline.
»
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»
»

Pretty good, do you know how many grafts he had? I wouldn’t mind seeing more Armani results for older patients, I think that is one thing that is lacking from his practice, his focus is clearly the younger crowd.

» Baldie,
»
» As you can see from my before pictures, I had a very large area to cover.
» Dr. Armani and I came up with a plan that would be a long term solution.
» The first surgery would be to rebuild the hairline and get nice covereage
» on the top trying to get back towards the crown as much possible. Surgery
» #2 would be for the crown. That is where I am at right now. We did discuss
» a possibke need for a 3rd surgery later down the road, this would be any
» touch up I need in zone 3, but this would be much later down the road…
»
» I am currently on Proscar, I have been for 2+ years and it has done a
» great job halting my hairloss. I raerly see any hairs shed anymore. If
» things stay the same as they are now I should be all set. If the meds do
» not work forever and I do start to thin I will go back for a 3rd
» transplant.
»
»
» Here is my current graft breakdown below:
»
» Hairline - 2,000
» GraftsZone 2 - 1,060
» GraftsZone 3 - 900
» GraftsCrown - 2,500
» Grafts Total - 6,460 Grafts

Nice. I like the way you planned out your future and integrated meds with surgical treatment. By treating the front first and then waiting for the result before proceeding, you can make sure you have the coverage you expect and want before chasing after the crown. It helps to ensure proper distribution of your available donor grafts.

» Have ya ever been to ANY transplant clinics?!? The “consultants” are NOT
» medical professionals in ANY clinic that I have visited, and I have been to
» many. I have never heard anyone besides Dr. Armani giving what you would
» call “medical” advice. Maybe I am biased here, but it seems to me that you
» have tried to pick apart every good result ever posted here by any surgeon.
» If it is not the result, you criticize the clinic for one reason or
» another. Do you live in a perfect world where you never make mistakes? I
» don’t think that transplants are for you no matter who the surgeon.
»
» Why do you “hope that it is not the norm”? Are you planning on seeing Dr.
» Armani? Didn’t think so.

I’m a medical professional, and I can consult with you if you want my opinions on advice you get - even if you do not have surgery with us. Just ask me on the forum or email me. Listen to your instincts. If it seems “salesy” or questionable, research more to confirm the facts before you move forward. After the consultant lays the foundation, it is the doctor that you should be talking to anyway.

» » Have ya ever been to ANY transplant clinics?!? The “consultants” are NOT
» » medical professionals in ANY clinic that I have visited, and I have been
» to
» » many. I have never heard anyone besides Dr. Armani giving what you
» would
» » call “medical” advice. Maybe I am biased here, but it seems to me that
» you
» » have tried to pick apart every good result ever posted here by any
» surgeon.
» » If it is not the result, you criticize the clinic for one reason or
» » another. Do you live in a perfect world where you never make mistakes?
» I
» » don’t think that transplants are for you no matter who the surgeon.
» »
» » Why do you “hope that it is not the norm”? Are you planning on seeing
» Dr.
» » Armani? Didn’t think so.
»
» I went for a consultation with the Norton Clinic in the UK.The consultant
» A.k.A. The Salesman,would of stood a better chance of selling me a pair of
» jeans.
»
» The advise given was to have 750 - 1000 grafts,then stay on propecia and
» you’ll never lose anymore - what bullsh*t!
»
» He only had a quick look at my hair.I think they must sell on the basis
» that once your in the trap,your in for life
»
» If you have a consultation with someone who’s had a hair transplant,at
» least you get to see one up close.There’s a lot of clinics that have
» seminers,etc and you still don’t get that.
»
» Research research and more research before you do anything,thats the best
» advise!

What? That is obviously a poorly trained consultant without a clue in the world. I’m glad you didn’t listen to that guy! After an experience like that, I would be leery afterwards too. Research is the key.

Hello Boris, let me answer your questions:

Pats,
Excellent results, what can I say that you dont know already.
I have a couple of questions Id like you to answer if you could:

  1. You had your first surgery where in Toronto? Yes, my first surgery was in Toronto, the 2nd surgery was in Los Angelos. The two clinics were very similar looking from the inside. I even had some of the same techs that had worked on my from my first surgery, working on me out in LA for the 2nd one!

  2. Where both surgeries performed by Dr. Armani or by his trained doctor, especially regarding the LA clinic? Dr. Armani performed and oversaw both of my surgeries. He made the incisions for both, oversaw graft placement etc… In Los Angelos, Dr. Edwards headed the exctractions with DR. Armani overseeing him.

  3. What was the cost of both surgeries? My cost was a bit different because I knew up front that I would be having multiple surgeries. If you needed to discuss cost further you could email me and I could find out your options.

  4. Could you elaborate more on the diff. on recovery times between the strip and FUE? I bet you were knocked down for more than a month on the strip. How long after with FUE that you were fine to get on with life?

Boris, The difference between FUE and Strip recovery time was night and day. The first night after surgery after my strip procedure was difficult. The back of my head was very sore, it kept me from sleeping. Where for FUE, the first night I was very comfortable, barely any pain at all.

For strip, it took me 3 weeks or so to feel normal, and even then you still have to be very careful when it comes to stretching your scar, for up to 6 months. With FUE, I was feeling almot 100% almost within days. I know that sounds quick, and I was surprised by this myself.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask. My email is also provided below.

Cheers!

»
» Pretty good, do you know how many grafts he had? I wouldn’t mind seeing
» more Armani results for older patients, I think that is one thing that is
» lacking from his practice, his focus is clearly the younger crowd.

Johnp, This particular patient had 5,500 grafts. He had a complete restoration of zones 1,2,3 and 4.Johnp, if you are interested in seeing more Armani results as you mentioned you can go to www.alviarmani.com and click on the photo gallery link.

Pats205, Thanks for posting your experience online. I have been following your progress for quite a while and though I have done a lot of research for the past 2 years, your case was one of the ones that really helped me make my decision to go forward with surgery.

» » Have ya ever been to ANY transplant clinics?!? The “consultants” are NOT
» » medical professionals in ANY clinic that I have visited, and I have been
» to
» » many. I have never heard anyone besides Dr. Armani giving what you
» would
» » call “medical” advice. Maybe I am biased here, but it seems to me that
» you
» » have tried to pick apart every good result ever posted here by any
» surgeon.
» » If it is not the result, you criticize the clinic for one reason or
» » another. Do you live in a perfect world where you never make mistakes?
» I
» » don’t think that transplants are for you no matter who the surgeon.
» »
» » Why do you “hope that it is not the norm”? Are you planning on seeing
» Dr.
» » Armani? Didn’t think so.
»
» I went for a consultation with the Norton Clinic in the UK.The consultant
» A.k.A. The Salesman,would of stood a better chance of selling me a pair of
» jeans.
»
» The advise given was to have 750 - 1000 grafts,then stay on propecia and
» you’ll never lose anymore - what bullsh*t!
»
» He only had a quick look at my hair.I think they must sell on the basis
» that once your in the trap,your in for life
»
» If you have a consultation with someone who’s had a hair transplant,at
» least you get to see one up close.There’s a lot of clinics that have
» seminers,etc and you still don’t get that.
»
» Research research and more research before you do anything,thats the best
» advise!

Obviously they aren’t looking out for you!!!

» » » Have ya ever been to ANY transplant clinics?!? The “consultants” are
» NOT
» » » medical professionals in ANY clinic that I have visited, and I have
» been
» » to
» » » many. I have never heard anyone besides Dr. Armani giving what you
» » would
» » » call “medical” advice. Maybe I am biased here, but it seems to me
» that
» » you
» » » have tried to pick apart every good result ever posted here by any
» » surgeon.
» » » If it is not the result, you criticize the clinic for one reason or
» » » another. Do you live in a perfect world where you never make
» mistakes?
» » I
» » » don’t think that transplants are for you no matter who the surgeon.
» » »
» » » Why do you “hope that it is not the norm”? Are you planning on seeing
» » Dr.
» » » Armani? Didn’t think so.
» »
» » I went for a consultation with the Norton Clinic in the UK.The
» consultant
» » A.k.A. The Salesman,would of stood a better chance of selling me a pair
» of
» » jeans.
» »
» » The advise given was to have 750 - 1000 grafts,then stay on propecia
» and
» » you’ll never lose anymore - what bullsh*t!
» »
» » He only had a quick look at my hair.I think they must sell on the basis
» » that once your in the trap,your in for life
» »
» » If you have a consultation with someone who’s had a hair transplant,at
» » least you get to see one up close.There’s a lot of clinics that have
» » seminers,etc and you still don’t get that.
» »
» » Research research and more research before you do anything,thats the
» best
» » advise!
»
» Obviously they aren’t looking out for you!!!

Yes obviously - I did notice the big swanky expensive sports car outside,its got to be paid for by someone - luckily I’m in the sales game.

In other words I know a conman straight off.Some people think I’ve ripped them off,but theres a big big difference.I only sell low priced ladies garments,that just about run into double figures,not four figures plus.

I tell mature ladies they look great to get a sale,that equals a little lie at times,not a whopper like propecia will keep your hair for ever.

Its the Norton Clinic in the Uk.I’m talking about!

Thanks for all the comments and support guys, I will be posting my 5 month updates in a few weeks.

Hi Pat,

I just had my procedure done with Alvi Armani last month 3552 FUE grafts and will be going for my 2nd in 2 month. I feel the same about Alvi Armani and I am very confident as well. I checked out your pictures WOW your results are very natural.:slight_smile: I can’t wait to see my results… I will be posting my pictures so you may want to check them out.

WOW the hair line looks excellent and natural. Honestly the guy looks 10-15 years younger than his before pic’s. Great work

» Hey Johnp, I understand, as a middle aged man a more mature hairline would
» be much more suitable. Check out this result below, this is an Armani
» patient with a very nice rebuilt mature hairline.
»
»
»
»