Now that ICX has made fools of all of you

» if results r bad then why not cancel phase ii cinlical and commercial
» programme now why carry on until end ??? why is commercial work going on
» with trc if there is nothing to commercialise ? why look for partner,
»
» how can results be bad when they say they have positive data and then they
» say limitless hair can be made

After reading this post it just came to me that maybe trial 2 is continuing due to contract obligations with Farjo Clinic - I hope I’m wrong - what do you think?

So you was right (Maybe),but who really cares about your annoying opinion!

I’m not interested in doing a back & forth job with you.

HanginInThere was right,HanginInThere was right,HanginInThere was right,HanginInThere was right,HanginInThere was right,HanginInThere was right

Does that make you feel good?WOW!

» » if results r bad then why not cancel phase ii cinlical and commercial
» » programme now why carry on until end ??? why is commercial work going
» on
» » with trc if there is nothing to commercialise ? why look for partner,
» »
» » how can results be bad when they say they have positive data and then
» they
» » say limitless hair can be made
»
» After reading this post it just came to me that maybe trial 2 is
» continuing due to contract obligations with Farjo Clinic - I hope I’m
» wrong - what do you think?

Yes that is a very good point, I didn’t think of that, but wouldn’t ICX be paying Farjo to conduct the trial? If thats the case, wouldn’t ICX be able to drop Farjo whenever they want?

» funny how all the screaming morons who said hangin was so off base by
» saying ICX was full of it, are admitting ICX is full of it, yet still
» saying Hangin is wrong

»
» hurts to admit you are a fool doesnt it

What exactly where you right about?
You predicted we would get vague results? Yes(not hard when ICX have done the same in the past), but this is just an update on a phase of at trial that is half way through. Would you expect the final results of a football match at half time?
You also predicted TRC would fail! Which is still not what happened

from what I could see people were merely looking what could of happened both best and worst case scenario,but you unable to think of any other scenario other than the worst.

People are obviously going to root for the best outcome because that whats what they want to happen, Its called having hope and belief.
You are the only fool hear because you are so narrow minded, you can’t see that.

» I was not betting against ICX i just simply said that you guys are jumping
» the gun, and trying to theorize the release dates cost etc when they have
» not even proven that they have a viable product

»
» for this I was crucified
»
» and yet when the majority of the board now agrees ICX is full of it, still
» you guys are not man enough to admit i was right

You were also guilty of doing exactly the same, I can recall you guessing how much it would cost etc.

You are not some divine being who has superior insight above everyone else here!

You are the one who is not ‘man’ enough,
you make childish comments all the time, waste peoples time by creating meaningless posts (Not all of your posts, some are valid, some people don’t see that it could go wrong and need to be reminded,just not forced. I for one fully understand ICX could fail any time and they are treading a very fine line at the moment. But still they haven’t yet admitted failure)
You call people names and generally act immature.

You still keep trying to persuade people that in the 21st century, with all the regulations and guidelines ICX is an evil company that is hiding the real results and lying to the world. This is a paranoid conspiracy theory at its best.

can you explain to me exactly why ICX are “full of it”? is it because they haven’t released pics? Is it because they haven’t yet released figures? all of which they say they will do at the END of phase II. Of course if I am wrong about this I will eat my words and apologize to you.

Answer me this, IF the day comes and TRC does go to marketl, what would you do?

Also are you really hopping for TRC to fail?
Or are you disolusioned that it is not here yet like previously promised?
I just want to understand your negativity, you seem to not want any HM to ever be available, or just have no hope/trust in HM companies at all.

on the natural board. about naturals

you obviously care about my opinion, or maybe u need mental counseling, or perhaps look up the word hypocrite

» » » if results r bad then why not cancel phase ii cinlical and commercial
» » » programme now why carry on until end ??? why is commercial work
» going
» » on
» » » with trc if there is nothing to commercialise ? why look for partner,
» » »
» » » how can results be bad when they say they have positive data and then
» » they
» » » say limitless hair can be made
» »
» » After reading this post it just came to me that maybe trial 2 is
» » continuing due to contract obligations with Farjo Clinic - I hope I’m
» » wrong - what do you think?
»
» Yes that is a very good point, I didn’t think of that, but wouldn’t ICX be
» paying Farjo to conduct the trial? If thats the case, wouldn’t ICX be able
» to drop Farjo whenever they want?
»
»
» » funny how all the screaming morons who said hangin was so off base by
» » saying ICX was full of it, are admitting ICX is full of it, yet
» still
» » saying Hangin is wrong

» »
» » hurts to admit you are a fool doesnt it
»
» What exactly where you right about?
» You predicted we would get vague results? Yes(not hard when ICX have done
» the same in the past), but this is just an update on a phase of at trial
» that is half way through. Would you expect the final results of a football
» match at half time?
» You also predicted TRC would fail! Which is still not what happened
»
» from what I could see people were merely looking what could of happened
» both best and worst case scenario,but you unable to think of any
» other scenario other than the worst.
»
» People are obviously going to root for the best outcome because that whats
» what they want to happen, Its called having hope and belief.
» You are the only fool hear because you are so narrow minded, you can’t see
» that.
»
» » I was not betting against ICX i just simply said that you guys are
» jumping
» » the gun, and trying to theorize the release dates cost etc when they
» have
» » not even proven that they have a viable product

» »
» » for this I was crucified
» »
» » and yet when the majority of the board now agrees ICX is full of it,
» still
» » you guys are not man enough to admit i was right
»
»
» You were also guilty of doing just that.

i was also guilty of what?

» on the natural board. about naturals
»
» you obviously care about my opinion, or maybe u need mental counseling, or
» perhaps look up the word hypocrit

Seriously, talk about the epitome of irony, if YOU looked up hypocrite you might actually learn how to spell it.

I’m sick to death your mindless spamming. You’re evidentally just a uneducated, miserable old man. No one cares about your regime, no one is interested in your opinion, and I can safely say that just about everyone here is sick and tired of the barely coherent drivel that you constantly spew on this board.

» » » if results r bad then why not cancel phase ii cinlical and commercial
» » » programme now why carry on until end ??? why is commercial work
» going
» » on
» » » with trc if there is nothing to commercialise ? why look for partner,
» » »
» » » how can results be bad when they say they have positive data and then
» » they
» » » say limitless hair can be made
» »
» » After reading this post it just came to me that maybe trial 2 is
» » continuing due to contract obligations with Farjo Clinic - I hope I’m
» » wrong - what do you think?
»
» Yes that is a very good point, I didn’t think of that, but wouldn’t ICX be
» paying Farjo to conduct the trial? If thats the case, wouldn’t ICX be able
» to drop Farjo whenever they want?
»
»
» » funny how all the screaming morons who said hangin was so off base by
» » saying ICX was full of it, are admitting ICX is full of it, yet
» still
» » saying Hangin is wrong

» »
» » hurts to admit you are a fool doesnt it
»
» What exactly where you right about?
» You predicted we would get vague results? Yes(not hard when ICX have done
» the same in the past), but this is just an update on a phase of at trial
» that is half way through. Would you expect the final results of a football
» match at half time?
» You also predicted TRC would fail! Which is still not what happened
»
» from what I could see people were merely looking what could of happened
» both best and worst case scenario,but you unable to think of any
» other scenario other than the worst.
»
» People are obviously going to root for the best outcome because that whats
» what they want to happen, Its called having hope and belief.
» You are the only fool hear because you are so narrow minded, you can’t see
» that.
»
» » I was not betting against ICX i just simply said that you guys are
» jumping
» » the gun, and trying to theorize the release dates cost etc when they
» have
» » not even proven that they have a viable product

» »
» » for this I was crucified
» »
» » and yet when the majority of the board now agrees ICX is full of it,
» still
» » you guys are not man enough to admit i was right
»
»
» You were also guilty of doing exactly the same, I can recall you guessing
» how much it would cost etc.
»
» You are not some divine being who has superior insight above everyone else
» here!
»
» You are the one who is not ‘man’ enough,
» you make childish comments all the time, waste peoples time by creating
» meaningless posts (Not all of your posts, some are valid, some people
» don’t see that it could go wrong and need to be reminded,just not forced.
» I for one fully understand ICX could fail any time and they are treading a
» very fine line at the moment. But still they haven’t yet admitted failure)
»
» You call people names and generally act immature.
»
» You still keep trying to persuade people that in the 21st century, with
» all the regulations and guidelines ICX is an evil company that is hiding
» the real results and lying to the world. This is a paranoid conspiracy
» theory at its best.
»
» can you explain to me exactly why ICX are “full of it”? is it because they
» haven’t released pics? Is it because they haven’t yet released figures? all
» of which they say they will do at the END of phase II. Of course if
» I am wrong about this I will eat my words and apologize to you,

never said they are evil
I said they give meaningless data, like…percentages, which mean nothing

they do not give scientific data, that most scientists would be able to analyze

you say they will give photos after phase II, but they are already cancelling the future research before they have finished phase 2,

the thing I pound into the boards head is that the board is basically a cheerleader session for ICX, gee when is their next update, gee when do you think it will be available, gee great news, gee great news

very few of the posts, are healthy skepticism holding ICXs feet to the fire. requiring them to prove what they are saying about HM

why not issue hair counts? is this so difficult? that would give some idea of the progress of the studies, yet they refuse to do that,

If the results of their study were promising, they would have worded the update in a different manner…using totally different words. The wording they used , if you understand how company press releases work, always make the situation sound better than it really is. The wording of the press release they issued does not inspire confidence, and in fact I would say more than half the guys on the board, after reading it, lost all confidence in the company and its future.

So you are saying now that my prediction has been validated, that I was overly critical and negative right?

As I say you guys do not want to hear the truth, you distort reality to fit your wishes.

» on the natural board. about naturals
»
» you obviously care about my opinion, or maybe u need mental counseling, or
» perhaps look up the word hypocrite

HanginInThere,Maybe we are all a little mental,so what

Keep the annoying postings up.I did purchase the naturals,I just decided not to go that way,at least not yet,stayed on propecia,instead!Thanks for advise.

Keep the annoying postings up,like I said before,perhaps you should start your own site - Your very good at annoying people - HanginInThere.com

» » on the natural board. about naturals
» »
» » you obviously care about my opinion, or maybe u need mental counseling,
» or
» » perhaps look up the word hypocrite
»
»
» HanginInThere,Maybe we are all a little mental,so what
»
» Keep the annoying postings up.I did purchase the naturals,I just decided
» not to go that way,at least not yet,stayed on propecia,instead!Thanks for
» advise.
»
» Keep the annoying postings up,like I said before,perhaps you should start
» your own site - Your very good at annoying people - HanginInThere.com

u dont want my advice, do not come begging the natural board for my thoughts on naturals then come onto the HM board saying…who cares what you say

makes you appear demented

DOH! Can’t I be demented and bald,that sounds better,haha.

Keep it up Hanginthere!

Funny - HanginInThere.com

read the posts about a call to intercytex… u can do this!

I ve never seen another poster beiing humiliated by everybody.Hanging i predicted that you are the forum clown long before everyone realizes what an annoying b*tch you are :slight_smile:

You are pthetic man, noone likes you because you are psychotic and an idit who doesn’t know how to make a point.There were other people persimmistic regarding Intercytex you fckng mor*n, but nobody busted balls like you or claimed that intercytex is a scam company .

But there are worst than you in here…you should take this as a compliment but you are just an idi*t …nathan and the game were the true nightmare in here that gave people hope with their BS about inside info .

you wanna be a crusader of truth you mor*n go to the transplant section and call out all these doctors that post BS pictures, the ones that give people Dutasteride, the ones that give people 3000 grafts just for a hairline and they dont care about future loss.

But you are a chicken because you know that if you try the same b*llbusting like in here you will be banned in a week :wink: So spare us the speeches you just go into the unmoderated forums and bust everyones balls about BS

» read the posts about a call to intercytex… u can do this!

I used to phone the Farjo Clinic,it used to make me feel worse,they once told me a lot once only,then the usual big nothing!

If we had all had the alerts off Intercytex in time they did some sort of financial phone in conference,on the 18th at 9.30a.m. - I never found that out until later that day.

I do not think I’ll be phoning them,maybe this idea should be told to hairsite.When I used to phone the Farjo Clinic,I think I was more bothered about my hairloss,I’ve now started accepting it a little bit more - I think!

maybe he want try…

:

» never said they are evil
» I said they give meaningless data, like…percentages, which mean
» nothing

I agree they do need to give more specific information, but they said they are not going to do this yet, not until the end of phase II, yes they could end up giving us another load of vague results and if they do, for me this would confirm they are definitely going nowhere.

»
» they do not give scientific data, that most scientists would be able to
» analyze
»

Maybe they feel they don’t need to give specific data yet, or maybe their investors don’t want to know the fine details just as long as they know they are making progress, why would they want to present their findings to other scientists at this stage? who knows?

» you say they will give photos after phase II, but they are already
» cancelling the future research before they have finished phase 2,
»

Well they say they are going to analyze data and photos at the end of phase II, I’m just assuming that they would be presented to the public, of course they may not (probably wont).
They are not quite canceling further research, they are going to continue monitoring the phase II patients and analyze their findings at the end, If they get a “partner” phase III or commercialization could commence. If they get no “partner” then yes they have said further research will be stopped.

» the thing I pound into the boards head is that the board is basically a
» cheerleader session for ICX, gee when is their next update, gee when do
» you think it will be available, gee great news, gee great news

I see where your coming from, but maybe its the wording you use and the way you come across that gets to people. Remember this is a board for people who are ‘suffering’ from hair loss come (if hair loss didn’t bother them they wouldn’t be here) They come here to seek advice and as this is a HM forum (something not yet available) people that come hear are hopeful that something will come out near term to ease their ‘suffering’.
Your right to say people shouldn’t be too optimistic and plan their whole lives around the next little update and view all the news as good news but at the same time there is a reason to be optimistic as there was some good news in the announcement and one day there will more than likely be some form of HM, maybe not from ICX but from Follica or even Aderans.
For all we know ICX could believe their results are extremely promising and the “partnership” thing could just be part of their plan to get ICX to market as soon as possibe(but again they could just be up sh*t creek without a paddle).
some people are just trying to envisage HM being here soon to help themselves feel better about their hair loss. Hope is good for morale, if we didn’t have that then every one would be hopeless and depressed.

» very few of the posts, are healthy skepticism holding ICXs feet to the
» fire. requiring them to prove what they are saying about HM
»
Well some people are trying to contact ICX to get the answer they feel they deserve.
I get the feeling you would mock people for trying to contact ICX and see them as having no chance of getting a reply(getting a detailed reply would be unlikely) at least they are trying and not just writing about how much they want real answers and doing nothing but moan about it.

» why not issue hair counts? is this so difficult? that would give some idea
» of the progress of the studies, yet they refuse to do that,

I agree they should issue hair counts ect it would make everyone feel happier about where they are with the technology, but I’m sure they have their reasons (good or bad).
Maybe because they want to gather all the data they need before making and/or releasing detailed analysis, maybe they are making the analysis now but I’m sure they are not holding out on releasing them just for the sake of misleading people. There is the possibility that they don’t think that every wants/needs the specifics right now (I know we want them, but why should that concern ICX?) These are just possibilities and could be miles away from the truth, as could saying they are flat out refusing to release info.

»
» If the results of their study were promising, they would have worded the
» update in a different manner…using totally different words. The
» wording they used , if you understand how company press releases work,
» always make the situation sound better than it really is. The wording of
» the press release they issued does not inspire confidence, and in fact I
» would say more than half the guys on the board, after reading it, lost all
» confidence in the company and its future.
»
Yes I understand how marketing works and how press releases work.
Your right they have to use words to make it sound good, they would also have to word it so that the broadest range of their current target audience can understand.
If they were not doing well and knew that they would soon have to drop the product they would have to say and they would as ICX are a legitimate company(they did hint that it would be over if they run out of money).
Again the only reason it doesn’t inspire confidence is because it didn’t contain the words you wanted to hear.
This partnership thing is either them crying out for more cash or they were planned this all along, remember they are not selling TRC, merely sharing it.

» So you are saying now that my prediction has been validated, that I was
» overly critical and negative right?
»
Okay so you weren’t completely wrong, but you weren’t completely right either, it’s your pomposity that makes people not want to believe you altogether.

» As I say you guys do not want to hear the truth, you distort reality to
» fit your wishes.

Again this is what you are also doing.

Remember just because it is your opinion doesn’t make is right. You have every right to your opinion but so does everyone else.
Healthy skepticism is great, but there is a fine line between skepticism and unfounded slander, very few of your posts were “healthy skepticism”

I’m sure most people on this board are capable of weighing up all the options and seeing most possibilities, you don’t seem to have that ability.
There is also room for healthy optimism, hoping and dreaming but that should not replace the actual truth nor should the optimism be to great as there is a possibility of heartbreak or despair if things go wrong.
I’m not claiming everything I have said in this post is right, I’m just trying to show you that there could be other explanations to what you think is right. You don’t know anything about TRC that is fact.

:

HanginInThere if we all lived in the philipines,we probally would not care,they like Americans and Europeans - We’ve more money than them,it must be nice for a loser like you!

Yes we are getting personal again,but only to you the Big pain in everyones arse!

» HanginInThere if we all lived in the philipines,we probally would not
» care,they like Americans and Europeans - We’ve more money than them,it
» must be nice for a loser like you!
»
» Yes we are getting personal again,but only to you the Big pain in
» everyones arse!

who has way more money than who
again you dont know what you are talking about,
there are tons of poor europeans and americans, there are many homeless in fact
there are many filipinos who you couldnt wash their jock strap, many rich here, also yes many poor

I am retired and do not have to work in my early 40s, while you continue to slave away

so who is the loser

» » HanginInThere if we all lived in the philipines,we probally would not
» » care,they like Americans and Europeans - We’ve more money than them,it
» » must be nice for a loser like you!
» »
» » Yes we are getting personal again,but only to you the Big pain in
» » everyones arse!
»
» who has way more money than who
» again you dont know what you are talking about,
» there are tons of poor europeans and americans, there are many homeless in
» fact
» there are many filipinos who you couldnt wash their jock strap, many rich
» here, also yes many poor
»
» I am retired and do not have to work in my early 40s, while you continue
» to slave away
»
» so who is the loser

Yes it doesn’t cost a lot to live your miserable life,especially in a poor country!

» » » » all you clowns got totally punked and shamed by ICX your hero, you
» » » waited
» » » » you cried when anyone said anything bad about them
» » » »
» » » » then what happens when the big day arrives NOTHING
» » » »
» » » » they said they are abandoning the project
» » » »
» » » » cant get much more humiliated than that:rotfl:
» » »
» » » HanginInThere if we all lived in the philipines,we probally would not
» » » care,they like Americans and Europeans - We’ve more money than
» them,it
» » » must be nice for a loser like you!
» » »
» » » Yes we are getting personal again,but only to you the Big pain in
» » » everyones arse!
» »
» » who has way more money than who
» » again you dont know what you are talking about,
» » there are tons of poor europeans and americans, there are many homeless
» in
» » fact
» » there are many filipinos who you couldnt wash their jock strap, many
» rich
» » here, also yes many poor
» »
» » I am retired and do not have to work in my early 40s, while you
» continue
» » to slave away
» »
» » so who is the loser
»
» Yes it doesn’t cost a lot to live your miserable life,especially in a poor
» country!

you have 3000 a month? you can have access to without working

its cheaper to live here, its not free

the average land cost in manila is 5000pesos per square METER

this is not the province…its a city with 15 million people

new cars here are more expensive than they are in europe, because they are luxury items subject to about 40 percent import tax
same with electronics items.

maids and someone working on your house sure its cheaper here

when land is approximately 400,000 USD per ACRE…way more expensive than my city in the USA, Its not exactly cheap to buy a house

my neighborhood i doubt you could afford a house, most are 150,000 to 200,000 US dollars

you probably do not live in a house you probably live in an apartment