Not going on much with hairloss research

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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I think we can wait some more 10 - 15 years, until we have a solution.

I really think that. This is why I got a hair transplant. I dont believe anymore that there will be a cure soon. maybe in a far future.

we better use the current options (everything which makes you happy). Its a long time until something good will come out, in my opinion.

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» I think we can wait some more 10 - 15 years, until we have a solution.
»
» I really think that. This is why I got a hair transplant. I dont believe
» anymore that there will be a cure soon. maybe in a far future.
»
» we better use the current options (everything which makes you happy). Its
» a long time until something good will come out, in my opinion.

It is funny that same person who keep telling us to be happy all this time is now coming here to be negative about research. I do not see doom and gloom in hairloss research. I see hypocrite who trying to justify his change of attitude.

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» » I think we can wait some more 10 - 15 years, until we have a solution.
» »
» » I really think that. This is why I got a hair transplant. I dont
» believe
» » anymore that there will be a cure soon. maybe in a far future.
» »
» » we better use the current options (everything which makes you happy).
» Its
» » a long time until something good will come out, in my opinion.
»
» It is funny that same person who keep telling us to be happy all this time
» is now coming here to be negative about research. I do not see doom and
» gloom in hairloss research. I see hypocrite who trying to justify his
» change of attitude.

What is wrong with you? Didnt you sleep right? I just said my opinion, because I nearly didnt see any new thread after i wasnt here for some time. I just think that you better should use the options given to you, and not daydream about anything which is actually science fiction. I did so.

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» I think we can wait some more 10 - 15 years, until we have a solution.

Don’t worry, inmortality will be invented sooner

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How are any of these opinions based on reality?

There are two methods of HM that are either heading into FDA testing or well into it already. One of these methods is related to a set of circumstances that has produced some SERIOUS regrowth just by accident in a couple of cancer patients. The other horse in this race is a similar elaboration on another method of HM, and that related HM method had already progressed to a phase#2 trial on its own before being dropped.

If this isn’t enough to rate as viable evidence that HM has a real possibility of being here in less than a decade, then I would like to know what you actually WOULD consider to be viable evidence of it at this stage.

If you’re not open to the idea that HM could possibly be coming soon until the proof is absolutely indisputable, that’s fine. You’ve got a right to think however you want.

But IMHO you’re not really voicing an opinion at all. What you’re doing is more like cricitizing any thought processes/beliefs/outlooks about HM that are different from your own.

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» How are any of these opinions based on reality?
»
»
» There are two methods of HM that are either heading into FDA testing or
» well into it already. One of these methods is related to a set of
» circumstances that has produced some SERIOUS regrowth just by accident in a
» couple of cancer patients. The other horse in this race is a similar
» elaboration on another method of HM, and that related HM method had already
» progressed to a phase#2 trial on its own before being dropped.
»
» If this isn’t enough to rate as viable evidence that HM has a real
» possibility of being here in less than a decade, then I would like to know
» what you actually WOULD consider to be viable evidence of it at this stage.
»
»
»
»
»
»
» If you’re not open to the idea that HM could possibly be coming soon
» until the proof is absolutely indisputable, that’s fine. You’ve got a
» right to think however you want.
»
» But IMHO you’re not really voicing an opinion at all. What you’re
» doing is more like cricitizing any thought processes/beliefs/outlooks about
» HM that are different from your own.

No, you got me wrong. Like I said, I wasn’t here for some time and the time before I only looked very less into the HM section. I just gave up about the idea that HM will become reality in my youth. If its ok for you to wait some more years, then thats perfectly fine with me. But it actually can be that its 10 years, you have to wait. Thats too long for me.
I dont want to live in a dream world. at the moment HM or something similar is a dream. a nice dream, if it becomes reality in the next few years. but what, if not? Im just pessimistic about it. And I wanted to show you another way than waiting. Really, I dont understand how you can be ok, with waiting this long. I’m here since 5 years and I have seen companies come and go.

I really just dont understand how you can want to wait and suffer any longer, while it looks so bad about HM. What makes you think that this will change soon?

That I thought HM would be here soon, took about 5 years of my youth away, where I didnt do anything. I just didnt want this anymore.

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» » How are any of these opinions based on reality?
» »
» »
» » There are two methods of HM that are either heading into FDA testing or
» » well into it already. One of these methods is related to a set of
» » circumstances that has produced some SERIOUS regrowth just by accident
» in a
» » couple of cancer patients. The other horse in this race is a similar
» » elaboration on another method of HM, and that related HM method had
» already
» » progressed to a phase#2 trial on its own before being dropped.
» »
» » If this isn’t enough to rate as viable evidence that HM has a real
» » possibility of being here in less than a decade, then I would like to
» know
» » what you actually WOULD consider to be viable evidence of it at this
» stage.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » If you’re not open to the idea that HM could possibly be coming soon
» » until the proof is absolutely indisputable, that’s fine. You’ve got a
» » right to think however you want.
» »
» » But IMHO you’re not really voicing an opinion at all. What
» you’re
» » doing is more like cricitizing any thought processes/beliefs/outlooks
» about
» » HM that are different from your own.
»
» No, you got me wrong. Like I said, I wasn’t here for some time and the
» time before I only looked very less into the HM section. I just gave up
» about the idea that HM will become reality in my youth. If its ok for you
» to wait some more years, then thats perfectly fine with me. But it actually
» can be that its 10 years, you have to wait. Thats too long for me.
» I dont want to live in a dream world. at the moment HM or something
» similar is a dream. a nice dream, if it becomes reality in the next few
» years. but what, if not? Im just pessimistic about it. And I wanted to show
» you another way than waiting. Really, I dont understand how you can be ok,
» with waiting this long. I’m here since 5 years and I have seen companies
» come and go.
»
» I really just dont understand how you can want to wait and suffer any
» longer, while it looks so bad about HM. What makes you think that this will
» change soon?
»
» That I thought HM would be here soon, took about 5 years of my youth away,
» where I didnt do anything. I just didnt want this anymore.

Thank you but we know HM drawbacks and we know HTs exist because we are not fools. Please stop trying to justify YOUR hair transplant so YOU can feel better about YOUR decision. This section is not about you, your vague opinions and your preaching.

Now that you have hair I suggest you stop wasting your youth and our time.

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Transplants are great for some people. They are not even a viable option for others.

Personally I do not want to spend $15,000 on hair any time soon.

And when you are like me and realistically need to use the first 1500-2000 grafts just to thicken up existing coverage, and you also do not want a strip scar . . . this means the first $10,000-15,000 that I spend on transplants will not even get me any visual improvement at all!

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» Transplants are great for some people. They are not even a viable option
» for others.
»
»
»
» Personally I do not want to spend $15,000 on hair any time soon.
»
» And when you are like me and realistically need to use the first 1500-2000
» grafts just to thicken up existing coverage, and you also do not want a
» strip scar . . . this means the first $10,000-15,000 that I spend on
» transplants will not even get me any visual improvement at all!

I agree 100%.I do not want to spend $15,000 for mere 1500 grafts AND keep taking my propecia AND keep worrying where to get more money if I lose more hair. HT is not an option for me because real life expenses are kicking my ass. HT would not bring me happiness it would only bring me financial misery. I will find happiness when I find something that is better value and I think I am not alone in this situation.

Also I resent people who come here to sell me HT because they do not know me. I also resent people who kept telling me to be happy with what I have now to tell me I am wasting my youth without HT.

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I’m not the one having a problem. If you like it, then wait and suffer 10 more years, just to see that there is no HM in 10 years. :wink:

It’s not my life and not my problem :). Maybe I have spent 15.000 $, but I had the money. Anyway, HM will cost much money, too and with “options”, I didnt want to sell you HT, I just wanted tell you there are actual options. HM is a dream.

Personally I dont know how you feel towards your hairloss. Maybe its no big problem for you, so you don’t want to spend much money in it. Then I’m happy for you.

But I don’t think so. You got a problem with your hairloss…else you wouldn’t be here. But I do stop now, coz I’m not interested in discussing this and getting offended.

So, have a nice life…or a not so nice one ;).

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» I’m not the one having a problem. If you like it, then wait and suffer 10
» more years, just to see that there is no HM in 10 years. :wink:
»
» It’s not my life and not my problem :). Maybe I have spent 15.000 $, but I
» had the money. Anyway, HM will cost much money, too and with “options”, I
» didnt want to sell you HT, I just wanted tell you there are actual options.
» HM is a dream.
»
» Personally I dont know how you feel towards your hairloss. Maybe its no
» big problem for you, so you don’t want to spend much money in it. Then I’m
» happy for you.
»
» But I don’t think so. You got a problem with your hairloss…else you
» wouldn’t be here. But I do stop now, coz I’m not interested in discussing
» this and getting offended.
»

Yes I have problem with my hairloss and yes this is why I am here; however, you have hair now and you still coming to HM to torment people, to tell people they are dreamers with no hope unless they follow your route. Tell me, who have bigger problem? It is you.

» So, have a nice life…or a not so nice one ;).
I will have a nice life when you stop wasting it with this argument. Thank you.

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» » I’m not the one having a problem. If you like it, then wait and suffer
» 10
» » more years, just to see that there is no HM in 10 years. :wink:
» »
» » It’s not my life and not my problem :). Maybe I have spent 15.000 $, but
» I
» » had the money. Anyway, HM will cost much money, too and with “options”,
» I
» » didnt want to sell you HT, I just wanted tell you there are actual
» options.
» » HM is a dream.
» »
» » Personally I dont know how you feel towards your hairloss. Maybe its no
» » big problem for you, so you don’t want to spend much money in it. Then
» I’m
» » happy for you.
» »
» » But I don’t think so. You got a problem with your hairloss…else you
» » wouldn’t be here. But I do stop now, coz I’m not interested in
» discussing
» » this and getting offended.
» »
»
» Yes I have problem with my hairloss and yes this is why I am here;
» however, you have hair now and you still coming to HM to torment people, to
» tell people they are dreamers with no hope unless they follow your route.
» Tell me, who have bigger problem? It is you.
»
»
» » So, have a nice life…or a not so nice one ;).
» I will have a nice life when you stop wasting it with this argument. Thank
» you.

  1. my hair won’t be perfect in a year.

  2. Even though I take fin and minox, the hair I had left can fall off, if I’m unlucky.

its a calculated risk.

I have interest in a final solution for hairloss, too. But it worried me so much and I thought that there won’t be HM, in let’s say 3 years, so I got a HT.

I actually think HM won’t be here in the next few years. It’s far away. I would be happy if it was different, not only for myself.

When I said there are options in the present, I meant something like toppik, shaving your head, fin+minox and some other things, too. You don’t have to do a HT if you don’t have the money. I don’t want to talk you into something. I just wanted to help.

I know its hard to find a solution for hairloss. I can’t say anything else, than use the (few) options, given to you.

What I think is stupid, is sitting around and doing nothing. Ya well, before you say now, I’m stupid and should stop telling you, what you have to do, maybe think about it. Ok, I know I won’t change what you do and how you think. But I tried. :slight_smile:

Maybe sometimes its a bit cocky how i write, but i just want to give you new thoughts. Sorry, but I can’t do other than thinking you’re wasting your life because you hope and wait for HM.

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Personally I dont know how you feel towards your hairloss. Maybe its no big problem for you, so you don’t want to spend much money in it. Then I’m happy for you.

But I don’t think so. You got a problem with your hairloss…else you wouldn’t be here. But I do stop now, coz I’m not interested in discussing this and getting offended.

So, have a nice life…or a not so nice one.

Sorry, but I can’t do other than thinking you’re wasting your life because you hope and wait for HM.

You can treat HIV/AIDS for $100,000. And yet thousands of impoverished sub-Saharan Africans still die from it every year without ever being treated.

These people don’t need to be convinced that treating their condition is a wise investment.

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» Personally I dont know how you feel towards your
» hairloss. Maybe its no big problem for you, so you don’t want to spend much
» money in it. Then I’m happy for you.
»
» But I don’t think so. You got a problem with your hairloss…else you
» wouldn’t be here. But I do stop now, coz I’m not interested in discussing
» this and getting offended.
»
» So, have a nice life…or a not so nice one.
»
»
»
» Sorry, but I can’t do other than thinking you’re wasting
» your life because you hope and wait for HM.
»
»
»
»
» You can treat HIV/AIDS for $100,000. And yet thousands of impoverished
» sub-Saharan Africans still die from it every year without ever being
» treated.
»
» These people don’t need to be convinced that treating their condition is a
» wise investment.

well, maybe the sub-Saharan Africans are/were mean to the one who tells them, it would be a wise investment. So the one, who tells them, tells them.

maybe he is even happy that he got enough money to buy a HIV/AIDS treatment if its nessarry and they not, because they are no nice people. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue: