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#1

obviously talking about and waiting for results from follica,ect… is gonna take some time… so what should we talk about while we wait? everyone post what u think is a good topic to talk about while all the nervous waiting is occuring.


#2

I think we should halk about this a little more
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34046-page-0-category-3-order-last_answer.html

CYTOMEDIX Autogel System:
http://www.cytomedix.com/autologel.htm

  • Already FDA approved
  • Already tested and seen to work in humans
  • Actively seeking partners, specifically citing hair growth and hair transplants.

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#3

» I think we should halk about this a little more
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34046-page-0-category-3-order-last_answer.html
»
»
» CYTOMEDIX Autogel System:
» http://www.cytomedix.com/autologel.htm
» - Already FDA approved
» - Already tested and seen to work in humans
» - Actively seeking partners, specifically citing hair growth and hair
» transplants.
»
»
»
» .

I agree 100%, I would start but I know very little about it as I just skimmed through all the info.

I don’t know why it hasn’t got any more interest?

As you pointed out it seems similar (I wonder how similar?) to the following link, I read about it some time ago and wasn’t there a trial involving this going on in Florida?
http://tressless.com/blog/2008/02/12/injecting-blood-into-your-scalp-to-grow-hair/


#4

Can you US guys get hold of that ?

» » I think we should halk about this a little more
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34046-page-0-category-3-order-last_answer.html
» »
» »
» » CYTOMEDIX Autogel System:
» » http://www.cytomedix.com/autologel.htm
» » - Already FDA approved
» » - Already tested and seen to work in humans
» » - Actively seeking partners, specifically citing hair growth and hair
» » transplants.
» »
» »
» »
» » .
»
» I agree 100%, I would start but I know very little about it as I just
» skimmed through all the info.
»
» I don’t know why it hasn’t got any more interest?
»
» As you pointed out it seems similar (I wonder how similar?) to the
» following link, I read about it some time ago and wasn’t there a trial
» involving this going on in Florida?
» http://tressless.com/blog/2008/02/12/injecting-blood-into-your-scalp-to-grow-hair/


#5

I remember seeing that news clip before and hoping to hear about some positive results. I haven’t heard anything since and have forgotten about it. That news report was from February 12, 2008 (5 months ago), so they must know what type of results they are getting by now. I think a good idea would be to contact this company or Dr. Greco and ask if they are seeing positive results with this.

I don’t know how long they’ve been studying this method, but maybe they have some pictures that can be posted on hairsite. I have some hope for Acell, but I’m thankful that different methods are being investigated in case one doesn’t work and also it may provide us with options.

Take Care,
Bill


#6

It was originally posted in the topicals fourm. I’ve never read that section.


#7

I’m in Europe, can some US people contact them?

» I remember seeing that news clip before and hoping to hear about some
» positive results. I haven’t heard anything since and have forgotten about
» it. That news report was from February 12, 2008 (5 months ago), so they
» must know what type of results they are getting by now. I think a good
» idea would be to contact this company or Dr. Greco and ask if they are
» seeing positive results with this.
»
» I don’t know how long they’ve been studying this method, but maybe they
» have some pictures that can be posted on hairsite. I have some hope for
» Acell, but I’m thankful that different methods are being investigated in
» case one doesn’t work and also it may provide us with options.
»
» Take Care,
» Bill


#8

In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was observed in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had previously been observed."

» I’m in Europe, can some US people contact them?
»
» » I remember seeing that news clip before and hoping to hear about some
» » positive results. I haven’t heard anything since and have forgotten
» about
» » it. That news report was from February 12, 2008 (5 months ago), so
» they
» » must know what type of results they are getting by now. I think a good
» » idea would be to contact this company or Dr. Greco and ask if they are
» » seeing positive results with this.
» »
» » I don’t know how long they’ve been studying this method, but maybe they
» » have some pictures that can be posted on hairsite. I have some hope
» for
» » Acell, but I’m thankful that different methods are being investigated
» in
» » case one doesn’t work and also it may provide us with options.
» »
» » Take Care,
» » Bill


#9

» In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was observed
» in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had previously
» been observed."
»

This looks really promising as well. We’ll be the judge as to whether it is significant or not, but it is better than “moderate growth” or “statistically significant growth”. Where did you read about the SIGNIFICANT part?

http://grecohairrestoration.com/ This appears to be their site. Who is going to call them Monday? I’ll probably call them anyways.


#10

in this patent http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,178,883.PN.&OS=PN/5,178,883&RS=PN/5,178,883

» » In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was
» observed
» » in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had
» previously
» » been observed."
» »
»
»
» This looks really promising as well. We’ll be the judge as to whether it
» is significant or not, but it is better than “moderate growth” or
» “statistically significant growth”. Where did you read about the
» SIGNIFICANT part?
»
» http://grecohairrestoration.com/ This appears to be their site. Who is
» going to call them Monday? I’ll probably call them anyways.


#11

» » In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was
» observed
» » in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had
» previously
» » been observed."
» »
»
»
» This looks really promising as well. We’ll be the judge as to whether it
» is significant or not, but it is better than “moderate growth” or
» “statistically significant growth”. Where did you read about the
» SIGNIFICANT part?
»
» http://grecohairrestoration.com/ This appears to be their site. Who is
» going to call them Monday? I’ll probably call them anyways.

Yeah someone please call them. I have already sent them an e-mail on Thursday I think, so I hope they will answer this week. I live in Sweden so it’s maybe better for someone in the U.S. to phone them.


#12

Well, someone needs to call them. This patent was filed almost 20 years ago.

» in this patent
» http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,178,883.PN.&OS=PN/5,178,883&RS=PN/5,178,883
»
»
»
»
»
»
» » » In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was
» » observed
» » » in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had
» » previously
» » » been observed."
» » »
» »
» »
» » This looks really promising as well. We’ll be the judge as to whether
» it
» » is significant or not, but it is better than “moderate growth” or
» » “statistically significant growth”. Where did you read about the
» » SIGNIFICANT part?
» »
» » http://grecohairrestoration.com/ This appears to be their site. Who is
» » going to call them Monday? I’ll probably call them anyways.


#13

» Well, someone needs to call them. This patent was filed almost 20 years
» ago.
»
»
»
» » in this patent
» »
» http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,178,883.PN.&OS=PN/5,178,883&RS=PN/5,178,883
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » » » In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was
» » » observed
» » » » in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had
» » » previously
» » » » been observed."
» » » »
» » »
» » »
» » » This looks really promising as well. We’ll be the judge as to whether
» » it
» » » is significant or not, but it is better than “moderate growth” or
» » » “statistically significant growth”. Where did you read about the
» » » SIGNIFICANT part?
» » »
» » » http://grecohairrestoration.com/ This appears to be their site. Who
» is
» » » going to call them Monday? I’ll probably call them anyways.

Well we can all conclude that if it was something big then it would have come to the media until now. So maybe they haven’t succeeded so well.
BTW, in Follica’s new website, have you noticed that there are no requests for clinical trial volunteers anymore? Maybe because they have selected a few and are about to start? They will start this year, they wrote that to me before, so maybe it’s happening now.


#14

I live in the U.S. I will try to call them on Monday.


#15

» Well we can all conclude that if it was something big then it would have
» come to the media until now. So maybe they haven’t succeeded so well.
» BTW, in Follica’s new website, have you noticed that there are no requests
» for clinical trial volunteers anymore? Maybe because they have selected a
» few and are about to start? They will start this year, they wrote that to
» me before, so maybe it’s happening now.

Well, it’s only been 5 months or so, so who knows. Maybe they are saving it for the thickest results possible. In any case, I’ll try to call as well, though I live on the west coast and start work late.


#16

» » Well we can all conclude that if it was something big then it would have
» » come to the media until now. So maybe they haven’t succeeded so well.
» » BTW, in Follica’s new website, have you noticed that there are no
» requests
» » for clinical trial volunteers anymore? Maybe because they have selected
» a
» » few and are about to start? They will start this year, they wrote that
» to
» » me before, so maybe it’s happening now.
»
» Well, it’s only been 5 months or so, so who knows. Maybe they are saving
» it for the thickest results possible. In any case, I’ll try to call as
» well, though I live on the west coast and start work late.

Oh they have investigated this for 5 months only? I thought it was out for years. Okay then, maybe it really is something, I take back my critique :slight_smile:


#17

Well I don’t know. The patent is nearly 20 years old, so this has been around for quite some time. And this piece aired 5 months ago so the patient in the video got it done at least that long ago.

I thought they just started trying it out as seen in the video pretty recently (but who knows, we have to call them). Previously they had been using it in conjunction with FUSS transplants it seems.

Here are some more animal wounding pictures taken from a link on Dr. Greco’s site.
http://bloodrecovery.com/wound_ba2.htm


#18

» In all four patients, after treatment, SIGNIFICANT HAIR GROWTH was observed
» in the area of treatment with the composition where NO hair had previously
» been observed."
»

Is this from the patent? If that was terminal hair it would be a breakthrough.


#19

What Greco’s clinic was doing is slightly different, they use a dermaroller type device and then inject “Platelet Rich Plasma” directly into the scalp.

Cytomedex Autogel is just “platlet Rich Plasma” suspended in a Gel and then used topically or applied on wounds.

They get the “platlet Rich Plasma” by drawing your own blood and putting it in a centrifuge.


#20

» What Greco’s clinic was doing is slightly different, they use a dermaroller
» type device and then inject “Platelet Rich Plasma” directly into the
» scalp.
»
» Cytomedex Autogel is just “platlet Rich Plasma” suspended in a Gel and
» then used topically or applied on wounds.
»
» They get the “platlet Rich Plasma” by drawing your own blood and putting
» it in a centrifuge.

Dr Greco’s procedure was far more gruesome compared to this gel concept (that’s why they showed the procedure in black and white). This AutoloGel seems downright civilized by comparison.

Right now, I’m wondering about the “wounding” part of the procedure. What is it? Is it dermabrasion, or a dermaroller like the one used in Greco’s clinic?

It would be interesting to see where this idea goes. I never the gave it a second thought (like most of you guys) when I saw the original Greco piece. Now I feel a little foolish… like the people that discredited hair growth after wounding 50 years ago. Maybe this product has some merit. Maybe one of us should email/ hound them to expedite the hair growth aspect of their product.

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