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It seems your regimen posted in your posts is out of date (I don’t see toco 8 in it for ex) Would you mind posting your current regimen and commenting on your experiences with whats in it? ty

  • Eric

» It seems your regimen posted in your posts is out of date (I don’t see toco
» 8 in it for ex) Would you mind posting your current regimen and commenting
» on your experiences with whats in it? ty
»
» - Eric

Eric,

My current regimen is listed in my signature. Curcumin, resveratrol, (and toctrienols) essentially stopped my dandruff, stabilized my hair loss, and provided some thin regrowth in areas of the crown and temples during 5 - 7 month period.

I have, for the past year and 1/2, been looking for ways to thicken this regrown hair. The vitamin C and MSM combination has helped. Adding vitamin D3 to the curcumin and resveratrol combination also seems to have thickened my hair more.

Fo ti extract (Shen Min) was the very first herb that I used successfully for hair loss, 12 years ago. But this time, I’ve added Fo ti to my regimen because of sports-related knee pain. And it is very effective for this condition. I am curious as to whether Fo ti can replace the vitamin E tocotrienols in my regimen.

mornings: curcumin, resveratrol, vitamin D
afternoons: vitamin C, MSM, maganesium
evenings: Fo ti

TN

I don’t have much faith in the natural stuff but I have heard good things about curcumin.

You mention tocotrienols in your post but it is not listed in your regimen… Could you explain what tocotrienols you use and wether it is integral to your regimen… thanks

-Eric

» » It seems your regimen posted in your posts is out of date (I don’t see
» toco
» » 8 in it for ex) Would you mind posting your current regimen and
» commenting
» » on your experiences with whats in it? ty
» »
» » - Eric
»
»
» Eric,
»
» My current regimen is listed in my signature. Curcumin, resveratrol, (and
» toctrienols) essentially stopped my dandruff, stabilized my hair loss, and
» provided some thin regrowth in areas of the crown and temples during 5 - 7
» month period.
»
» I have, for the past year and 1/2, been looking for ways to thicken this
» regrown hair. The vitamin C and MSM combination has helped. Adding
» vitamin D3 to the curcumin and resveratrol combination also seems to have
» thickened my hair more.
»
» Fo ti extract (Shen Min) was the very first herb that I used successfully
» for hair loss, 12 years ago. But this time, I’ve added Fo ti to my regimen
» because of sports-related knee pain. And it is very effective for this
» condition. I am curious as to whether Fo ti can replace the vitamin E
» tocotrienols in my regimen.
»
» mornings: curcumin, resveratrol, vitamin D
» afternoons: vitamin C, MSM, maganesium
» evenings: Fo ti
»
»
» TN

» You mention tocotrienols in your post but it is not listed in your
» regimen… Could you explain what tocotrienols you use and wether it is
» integral to your regimen… thanks
»
» -Eric

In the past, I have used Jarrow’s TOCO SORB, Primordial Performance’s Toco-8, and AC Grace’s Tocotrienols.

Though I have found them to be good for energy, the libido, and hair (thickening), I do not presently use tocotrienols, as I believe there may be better and less expensive alternatives.

Ah ok… I picked up Dragon herbs He shou Wu… it says to take 1500 mg in the morning and evenings… do you use that much?

Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my hair loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the fallen hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without showering the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in general). Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing hairs more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than that. Any thoughts? ty

Eric

» » You mention tocotrienols in your post but it is not listed in your
» » regimen… Could you explain what tocotrienols you use and wether it
» is
» » integral to your regimen… thanks
» »
» » -Eric
»
» In the past, I have used Jarrow’s TOCO SORB, Primordial Performance’s
» Toco-8, and AC Grace’s Tocotrienols.
»
» Though I have found them to be good for energy, the libido, and hair
» (thickening), I do not presently use tocotrienols, as I believe there may
» be better and less expensive alternatives.

» Ah ok… I picked up Dragon herbs He shou Wu… it says to take 1500 mg in
» the morning and evenings… do you use that much?
»
» Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my hair
» loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the fallen
» hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without showering the
» more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in general).
» Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing hairs more
» thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than that. Any
» thoughts? ty
»
» Eric

Eric, this is my present routine:

Mornings: curcumin, resveratrol, and vitamin D3

Afternoons: vitamin C, magnesium citrate, and MSM

Evenings: prepared Fo ti (1000-1500 mg.), Korean ginseng

A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out. But I personally believe that removing oil from the hair/scalp is a good thing, and of course, it feels better than letting grime accumulate, which, I think, blocks the hair follicles, inhibiting growth.

» » Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my hair
» » loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the fallen
» » hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without showering
» » the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in general).
» » Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing hairs
» » more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than that.
»
» A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they
» shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out.

The less you shampoo your hair, the more hair that falls out when you do decide to shampoo it. That’s only natural, and has nothing to do with the balding process itself. To the original poster: I think you’re just wasting your time by counting the “fallen hairs” each morning/evening. It doesn’t mean anything.

» » » Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my
» hair
» » » loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the
» fallen
» » » hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without
» showering
» » » the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in
» general).
» » » Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing hairs
» » » more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than that.
» »
» » A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they
» » shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out.
»
» The less you shampoo your hair, the more hair that falls out when you do
» decide to shampoo it. That’s only natural, and has nothing to do with the
» balding process itself. To the original poster: I think you’re just
» wasting your time by counting the “fallen hairs” each morning/evening. It
» doesn’t mean anything.

Does it make a difference if someone is shedding not only on top of the head, but shedding the the back of the head and sides of the head as well? What would be reasons for these hairs to shed that are supposedly not affected by dht?

And I 100% agree with Bryan on this one from personal experience. The longer I avod washing my hair the more hair will come out when I do wash my hair. I think it’s a very old and terrible myth that washing hair causing hair loss.

» » » Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my
» hair
» » » loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the
» fallen
» » » hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without
» showering
» » » the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in
» general).
» » » Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing hairs
» » » more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than that.
» »
» » A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they
» » shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out.
»
» The less you shampoo your hair, the more hair that falls out when you do
» decide to shampoo it. That’s only natural, and has nothing to do with the
» balding process itself. To the original poster: I think you’re just
» wasting your time by counting the “fallen hairs” each morning/evening. It
» doesn’t mean anything.

have only been shampooing about 2 times a week the last few months
my hair is growing like a weed

» » » » Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my
» » hair
» » » » loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the
» » fallen
» » » » hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without
» » showering
» » » » the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in
» » general).
» » » » Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing
» hairs
» » » » more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than
» that.
» » »
» » » A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they
» » » shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out.
» »
» » The less you shampoo your hair, the more hair that falls out when you
» do
» » decide to shampoo it. That’s only natural, and has nothing to do with
» the
» » balding process itself. To the original poster: I think you’re just
» » wasting your time by counting the “fallen hairs” each morning/evening.
» It
» » doesn’t mean anything.
»
» Does it make a difference if someone is shedding not only on top of the
» head, but shedding the the back of the head and sides of the head as well?
» What would be reasons for these hairs to shed that are supposedly not
» affected by dht?
»
» And I 100% agree with Bryan on this one from personal experience. The
» longer I avod washing my hair the more hair will come out when I do wash my
» hair. I think it’s a very old and terrible myth that washing hair causing
» hair loss.

if you lose 50 hairs in the shower , per day
and you wait 4 days to shampoo and then you lose 200 hairs in the shower that day
whats the difference

its not an increase

» have only been shampooing about 2 times a week the last few months
» my hair is growing like a weed

…and you think it (the growing) has something to do with the limited number of times that you shampoo your hair?

The Grunge Movement had (has) a similar philosophy.

» » » » » Also, I have a question about washing hair (showering). I test my
» » » hair
» » » » » loss by running my hand through my hair briskly and counting the
» » » fallen
» » » » » hairs each morning/evening. I notice the longer I go without
» » » showering
» » » » » the more hairs fall (and of course the less clean it feels in
» » » general).
» » » » » Certainly some of this can be attributed to showering removing
» » hairs
» » » » » more thoroughly… but I suspect that there is more to it than
» » that.
» » » »
» » » » A few people, here and at other forums, swear that the less they
» » » » shampoo their hair, the less hair that falls out.
» » »
» » » The less you shampoo your hair, the more hair that falls out when you
» » do
» » » decide to shampoo it. That’s only natural, and has nothing to do
» with
» » the
» » » balding process itself. To the original poster: I think you’re just
» » » wasting your time by counting the “fallen hairs” each morning/evening.
»
» » It
» » » doesn’t mean anything.
» »
» » Does it make a difference if someone is shedding not only on top of the
» » head, but shedding the the back of the head and sides of the head as
» well?
» » What would be reasons for these hairs to shed that are supposedly not
» » affected by dht?
» »
» » And I 100% agree with Bryan on this one from personal experience. The
» » longer I avod washing my hair the more hair will come out when I do wash
» my
» » hair. I think it’s a very old and terrible myth that washing hair
» causing
» » hair loss.
»
» if you lose 50 hairs in the shower , per day
» and you wait 4 days to shampoo and then you lose 200 hairs in the shower
» that day
» whats the difference
»
» its not an increase

No, that’s not what I meant. What I was saying was actually the same as what you posted and what Bryan said, but I should have been more explicit.

Mr X loses 50 hairs everytime he showers on average. Mr X showers Monday and loses 50 hairs. He doesn’t shower/wash his hair Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Mr X takes a shower Friday and loses more hair than an average day. Therefore Mr X loses approx 150 hairs on Friday (to make up for the hairs he didn’t lose from (tues-wed).

mj, there is a “delete text completely” option when you post. How about making use of it. There is no reason to include all previous texts in your posts.

» » have only been shampooing about 2 times a week the last few months
» » my hair is growing like a weed
»
» …and you think it (the growing) has something to do with the limited
» number of times that you shampoo your hair?
»
» The Grunge Movement had (has) a similar philosophy.

Actually i have not even been taking ANYTHING in my regimen , in about a year or so
not intentional, just ran out and had a lot of personal distractions

hair looks better than anytime in recent memory
certainly is not getting worse
first time i can remember being off my regimen hasnt devasted my hair, before it would quickly wreak havoc

i think i cant explain this situation, the side hair and back is so thick its amazing
the top is very thick

it was 2 yrs ago i used the niz cream on top for 4 months and it got so thin i freaked out and stopped using it
but the next year the hair thickened up to way better than it was before i started the niz cream

strange

Natural,

I have ben trying your regimen for a few weeks now. I am noticing I still have a low level of itchiness /sensitivity on the top of my head where I get shedding. Do you get this? Is there anything you would Rx for this? Also

I browsed the IH website and the regimen Rx over there. They seem to use a lot of things not included in your regiemen. What is your thoughts on that regimen?

» » » have only been shampooing about 2 times a week the last few months
» » » my hair is growing like a weed
» »
» » …and you think it (the growing) has something to do with the limited
» » number of times that you shampoo your hair?
» »
» » The Grunge Movement had (has) a similar philosophy.
»
» Actually i have not even been taking ANYTHING in my regimen , in about a
» year or so
» not intentional, just ran out and had a lot of personal distractions
»
» hair looks better than anytime in recent memory
» certainly is not getting worse
» first time i can remember being off my regimen hasnt devasted my hair,
» before it would quickly wreak havoc
»
» i think i cant explain this situation, the side hair and back is so thick
» its amazing
» the top is very thick
»
» it was 2 yrs ago i used the niz cream on top for 4 months and it got so
» thin i freaked out and stopped using it
» but the next year the hair thickened up to way better than it was before i
» started the niz cream
»
» strange

» Natural,
»
» I have ben trying your regimen for a few weeks now. I am noticing I still
» have a low level of itchiness /sensitivity on the top of my head where I
» get shedding. Do you get this? Is there anything you would Rx for this?
» Also
»
» I browsed the IH website and the regimen Rx over there. They seem to use
» a lot of things not included in your regiemen. What is your thoughts on
» that regimen?

Hi crysanthium,

Here is my regimen in detail:

Mornings - Country Life resveratrol Plus; Jarrow curcumin; Carlson vitamin D3
Afternoons - Ester C; Nature’s Way MSM; Thorne Research magnesium citrate
Evenings - Dragon Herb He Shou Wu; Nature’s Way ginseng

Fortunately, my itchiness subsided after I started curcumin and resveratrol. And that was over two years ago. What kind of curcumin are you taking, and how much do you take?

I think there are a lot of people, here and at IH’s site, that use curcumin and resveratrol to control scalp inflammation.

I believe that my present regimen is pretty comprehensive. It is good for the hair and body. But every person must find out, for himself, what works and what does not.

» » Natural,
» »
» » I have ben trying your regimen for a few weeks now. I am noticing I
» still
» » have a low level of itchiness /sensitivity on the top of my head where
» I
» » get shedding. Do you get this? Is there anything you would Rx for
» this?
» » Also
» »
» » I browsed the IH website and the regimen Rx over there. They seem to
» use
» » a lot of things not included in your regiemen. What is your thoughts
» on
» » that regimen?
»
»
» Hi crysanthium,
»
» Here is my regimen in detail:
»
» Mornings - Country Life resveratrol Plus; Jarrow curcumin; Carlson vitamin
» D3
» Afternoons - Ester C; Nature’s Way MSM; Thorne Research magnesium citrate
» Evenings - Dragon Herb He Shou Wu; Nature’s Way ginseng
»
» Fortunately, my itchiness subsided after I started curcumin and
» resveratrol. And that was over two years ago. What kind of curcumin are
» you taking, and how much do you take?
»
» I think there are a lot of people, here and at IH’s site, that use
» curcumin and resveratrol to control scalp inflammation.
»
» I believe that my present regimen is pretty comprehensive. It is good for
» the hair and body. But every person must find out, for himself, what works
» and what does not.

the natrual,

what norwood are you? and how old are you?

has your regime totally halted any kind of loss? or just to a normal standard daily amount?
and how long have you been on the regimen?

I am presently a NW 1.5. At my worst (which was about 2 1/2 years ago), I was a NW 2.5. I am in the 35 - 45 year age group. I have been on my curcumin and resveratrol regimen for over two years.

During this time, I have been able to not only maintain, but also experience some thickening and light regrowth in the crown and temple areas (with the addition of supplements like MSM, tocotrienols, and Fo ti).

I use resveratrol 100 by Jarrow, Curcumin 95 by jarrow, high potency vitamin D 1000 iu by vit world, C - 1000 by Now, 400 mg magnesium caps by NOW … the itchiness isnt horrible but its def present still on the top of my head on and off with constant low grade sensitivity…

» » Natural,
» »
» » I have ben trying your regimen for a few weeks now. I am noticing I
» still
» » have a low level of itchiness /sensitivity on the top of my head where
» I
» » get shedding. Do you get this? Is there anything you would Rx for
» this?
» » Also
» »
» » I browsed the IH website and the regimen Rx over there. They seem to
» use
» » a lot of things not included in your regiemen. What is your thoughts
» on
» » that regimen?
»
»
» Hi crysanthium,
»
» Here is my regimen in detail:
»
» Mornings - Country Life resveratrol Plus; Jarrow curcumin; Carlson vitamin
» D3
» Afternoons - Ester C; Nature’s Way MSM; Thorne Research magnesium citrate
» Evenings - Dragon Herb He Shou Wu; Nature’s Way ginseng
»
» Fortunately, my itchiness subsided after I started curcumin and
» resveratrol. And that was over two years ago. What kind of curcumin are
» you taking, and how much do you take?
»
» I think there are a lot of people, here and at IH’s site, that use
» curcumin and resveratrol to control scalp inflammation.
»
» I believe that my present regimen is pretty comprehensive. It is good for
» the hair and body. But every person must find out, for himself, what works
» and what does not.