My today discovery

I did a comprehensive analysis of gc83uk’s donor recently. If you Google “Analysis of gc83uk’s Donor - 2nd & 3rd HST Procedures” you’ll be able to find it.

The most interesting thing I discovered, and as far as I know nobody else has brought this up before, was that 30% of the extracted follicular units, regenerated with less hairs or were thinner.

To give people an idea of what this means, I’ll give a conservative example. Let’s say a person has an average of 2.0 hairs per follicular unit and undergoes an HST procedure. We know that 20% of the extracted follicular units will not regenerate. On top of that, let’s say 30% of the follicular units regenerate with half as many hairs. This means that the true regeneration rate for hairs in the donor is 65%.

Let’s extend this to the recipient side. Let’s say 10% of the transplanted follicular units do not yield and 30% appear thinner, or have half as many hairs. The total yield for hairs on the recipient side is then 75%. The true multiplication rate, in this case, is 1.4x.

This is why I’m very interested in including the recipient area in any future analysis. We have a good idea of what’s happening in the donor but the recipient is missing. Without both, you can not have a complete analysis. As a result, I started a thread that you can Google, “The 50 Graft Test Procedure,” that would answer the key questions so I hope people support it and start being a little more proactive.

I am not sure GC83uk is the best example as his donor was below average, he did the 2nd or 3rd (I don’t remember) only six months after another.

I said to HST via e-mail that I am soon visiting Dr Mwamba to compare the pitcures he has of my donor at the time I was thinking about FUE (virgin donor) and now after my first HST.

They were totally OK with that and Deborah just reminded me about the 9 months delay. It probably means that 9 months is really the delay where you can consider everything grew back.
Maybe even a year is the safest… but still.

I don’t know if your counting is acceptable and as so many others said, they extended the number of clinics, they have a very booked agenda, I’m sure in the big number of patients who went there, there are other very meticulous who could have analysed it and brought them to court if it’s a lie.

I guess, HASCI knows that anyone can try it and be checked by an FUE specialist afterwards.

Anyway, I told them about my disappointment feeling and this “discovery” of their limits that changes quiet a lot the way I will strategize…
When you read a thread called “HT bad idea” here, it can only remind you that it’s better to think twice before jumping on treatments.

I talked to my girlfriend about that yesterday, she fully understands me, I was a little grumpy because, you see guyz in the streets with a huge full head of hairs, they don’t realize they have a huge amount of money on their head… what I mean is that it’s not fair that you need to go on so expensive lifelong treatments to keep a somehow average not very dense hair.

And I was thinking, with all that money, I should travel and accept that my new NW2 might go back to NW3 in 3 years, NW4 in 5 years and deal with it (hat,caps, beanies etc) and pray for other real unlimited treatment to come!!!
Because if it comes in 5 years, I will have saved loads of money by not being to much in a rush with actual very costy transplants.

On the other hand, the most optimistic dude (with money) could think: “I will have a good three or four HST”, and then tempoirse, and I’m sure in 5-10 years, I will be able to multiply infinitly the rest of my donor… (because you never lose entirely your donor)

i doubt Dr Mwamba will be able to see difference in your donor area simply bc if Gho is splittin follicle (as many HT doctors believe he is doing)then there wont be any white dots, in anoher words it will be hard to tell…according to JJJJrs true regeneration is 65%, so you lost some 600 grafts over the big area, nothing really

If I had donor like yours i wouldnt bother with HST, you can have FUE with some of the top Belgium clinics or some other clinic with good reputation.

still, they are the best you can have today!!!

Mwamba won’t be able to see anything and if he does, it’s probably just to get you to have a procedure with him.

caddarik could you post a picture of your hair from the front side. You can cover your face if necessary. Right now we only have a picture from the top and back but it would be nice to see a different angle, i.e., the one most people see you from so we can evaluate the result in a better way.

In my opinion, from what you’ve shown so far, your result looks very good after only 6 months. At this current stage, your hairloss really isn’t that bad and if its stable, you would only need 1-2 procedures max. With HST, at least you don’t have to worry about any scarring which isn’t the case for any other hair transplant. If I were in your position, it would either be HST or nothing.

» I don’t know if your counting is acceptable and as so many others said,
» they extended the number of clinics, they have a very booked agenda, I’m
» sure in the big number of patients who went there, there are other very
» meticulous who could have analysed it and brought them to court if it’s a
» lie.

I’m confident that the counting I did is 99% accurate. There’s nothing about my analysis that proves that HST is a lie either. You mentioned the limitations HASCI brought up that surprised you. What I’m trying to do is give you a possible reason why these limitations might exist.

» » I don’t know if your counting is acceptable and as so many others said,
» » they extended the number of clinics, they have a very booked agenda, I’m
» » sure in the big number of patients who went there, there are other very
» » meticulous who could have analysed it and brought them to court if it’s
» a
» » lie.
»
» I’m confident that the counting I did is 99% accurate. There’s nothing
» about my analysis that proves that HST is a lie either.
You mentioned the
» limitations HASCI brought up that surprised you. What I’m trying to do is
» give you a possible reason why these limitations might exist.
- poster ‘JJJ Jr. S’

they advertise 80%+ regeneration when in reality it is 65% due to many FUs regrowing with less hairs

How about sending some doctor to get hasci trining for 50K, I know Gho doesnt like Drs who already work in industry as these experienced doctors will think hst is more labor intensive but I have my doubts about it, when good hasci tech is able to extract 400 grafts an hour and implantation part takes less than that bc 2 tecs are doin it, then it isnt any harder than normal fue. Also they dont wear any magnifying glasses,

i dont know if any FUE surgeon can extract 400 grafts in 1 hour,
dr woods who is one of the most experienced guys in the field and it takes him 3-4 hours to get 500 grafts

I will post front pictures soon, i’m just waiting the right lenght to do a proper comparing exercise.

I have in my archive pics of me frontal with a 2 cm lenght, I will do a before after as soon as I reach this lenght again…

I shaved it 3 mm last week to do the donor pictures comparison.

I followed the thread of GC on the bald truth (I still can not react or reply there, not allowed and it has been 2 weeks I subscribed)

And I have to say that I am again a bit more optimistic after reading his journey!!!

I think you should compare and count his donor in 7 months, not now, it’s not relevant.

IM proved that there were some grafts reappearing after months.

i really believe that it continues to show up after 3 weeks, my donor was itchy up to one month later and I had pimples for 3 months here and there.

Also Deborah asked me to visit Mwamba for comparison after 9 months, it must be for a reason.

So maybe they can multiply, I noticed didi and don’t know who else being very negative about the recipient yields etc, I don’t agree, GC case is very encouraging, it gives me hopes that HST will improve and improve.

And don’t forget that he is alopecia aerata, he has a below average donor and also did one procedure six months after another… and still, Gho seems to be ready for some more procedures when FUE dudes told him 2500 maximum.

Good he did find HST.

On my sides, I have Pierre, the french speaking correspondant of HST who should bring me more answers about all my doubts and disappointment of last emails.

I agree with you, in 2013 its HST or nothing, all the rest of the alternatives are waste of time, topic, pills, FUE, FUT are dead end solution and bringing very small tiny satisfaction becoming frustrations very early in the process, that’s why I NEVER took any of these treatments and waited patiently for better solutions.

I remember me reading about Gho in 2002 and 2003, I was still having load of hair and in my early 20’s, now without any treatment, I kept enough hair to enjoy my 20’s, i’m early 30’s with my first HST.

As I said last time, our generation is luckier than Joling generation and he managed to combine the 90’s catastrophic transplant and 3 HST with open doors for more… it means that we should have far more better…that’s why I decided I would keep on filling my head with hairs from HST procedures, but maybe with a years in between each time to be sure of a full recovery in donor and also to temporise a bit and see what other labs might bring or what HST can achieve in terms of progress or revolution!!!

» they advertise 80%+ regeneration when in reality it is 65% due to many FUs
» regrowing with less hairs
»
» How about sending some doctor to get hasci trining for 50K, I know Gho
» doesnt like Drs who already work in industry as these experienced doctors
» will think hst is more labor intensive but I have my doubts about it, when
» good hasci tech is able to extract 400 grafts an hour and implantation part
» takes less than that bc 2 tecs are doin it, then it isnt any harder than
» normal fue. Also they dont wear any magnifying glasses,
»
» i dont know if any FUE surgeon can extract 400 grafts in 1 hour,
» dr woods who is one of the most experienced guys in the field and it takes
» him 3-4 hours to get 500 grafts
- poster ‘moopookoo’

You know how I feel moopookoo. I want to see the 50 graft test procedure and if people want to get the key answers, that’s exactly what they should be pushing for. This is the most important thing anyone who has an interest in HST can do.

why don’t you go for it? 700 euros is no big deal, and you will have the answer… and maybe feel better to gor for a real 1600 session…

» why don’t you go for it? 700 euros is no big deal, and you will have the
» answer… and maybe feel better to gor for a real 1600 session…
- poster ‘caddarik79’

I read that Dr. Gho does not do 50 graft test procedures unless you’re a very difficult candidate, so I’m pretty sure that would exclude me.

If I do decide to get a procedure one day, I’ll probably try to get the maximum amount of grafts possible. I know that there are many people who would get the 50 graft procedure if Gho offered it, and I’d be more than willing to analyse their results if they could set something like that up.

I sometimes have weird thoughts like:

“maybe they keep being very cautious and secretive because they have the cure, but if they were claiming it too obviously, there will be soooooo much demand that they could not follow…”

Maybe they wait until they have ten or twelve clinics, and then, they will publish NW6 going NW1…

GC is an example of succes story somehow, imagine in four years from now if he get another 5 procedures, and the sooo doomed GC have a full head…starting with an alopecia aerata…

Maybe they wait until they have enough staff before showing off…
Overwhelming demand might be unconfortable!!!

That was just a thought…

I’ve requested the very directly query of the actual restriction of HST? if it can be considerd as an “almost endless donor”?and what I can want to achieve? I’ve requested about this 13.000 grafts individual described by Gho himself in his meeting with Spencer and all in all I was informed a different tale than what I always thought.

Theradome is my today discovery which I felt more than fit for curing hair thinning. In fact it works very well with pre-op patients of hair transplant and with those who are 30 days post-transplant. Transplants cause trauma to the nearby hairs.

I have also come to know that this product will alleviate this and assist the growth of newly planted follicles by: accelerating the healing process; reducing redness and decreasing discomfort; and encouraging transplanted hairs to grow faster.

It’s very easy. The product has a simple one button operation and it uses audio commands to let you know if the battery is low, how many treatments you have done since the purchase of your Theradome™ , how many minutes are left in the session, and if there any technical issues.

On June 14th, the Theradome™ became the only wearable device in the world to be FDA-cleared for over the counter use.

ban this spanner… go sell your laser helmet somewhere else…

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by Sarah1[/postedby]
On June 14th, the Theradome™ became the only wearable device in the world to be FDA-cleared for over the counter use.[/quote]