Most Promising?

» » What has been proven?
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» » We have yet to see a single money-shot example of hair regeneration by
» a
» » HM research team.
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» Asia is the counterfeit capitol of the world - NOTHING is real there.
» Their manufacturing practices (outside of Japan and Korea, and even Korea
» is questionable as evidenced by their cloning scandal) are atrocious. They
» have very little value for human life - its a cultural thing. In Hong
» Kong, they cap civil damage awards at $100k - $50k if the victim is a
» woman! “What? Our crappy elevator killed your son? Here’s $100k. Huh?
» Your wife drowned in our defective pool? You get $50k.” You couldn’t pay
» me enough to trust any protocol that comes out of Asia. If they ever
» develop something legit, a real pharma will buy it, test it properly, and
» then market it. Unless it has a Western company’s name attached to it, I’m
» not interested, if for no other reason than that at least I know a Western
» pharma can be sued if it ends up killing me. You’re taking your life into
» your own hands if you fly to Asia for medical treatment. Its not worth it
» - its only hair.

This has got to be the silliest post I’ve seen on Hairsite. Yes, everything in Asia is fake, including the Taiwanese made memory chips and hardware running PCs all over the world. Idiot.

Cal,

What you’re talking about highly interests me. I have not heard or read too much about these drugs and what not. Where did you get this information?

For me money is not an issue, I guess to make up for lack of confidence I figured out how to make money. No looks plenty of money. And, I do agree that there are risks to everything, but I belive that if you’re healthy to begin with and take care of yourself to avoid un-necessary germs (i.e. where a mask and try to avoid public situations) then I see no need to worry about the immune system being down for a bit.

Your immune system is based on your health and well being. Someone in good health and taking care of themselves has just as much risk at getting sick while their immune system is being suppresed as someone in general to bad health with nothing supressing their immune system. It is all realitive.

The FDA in the US is very much controlled by the big pharmas and lawyers. As little as 20% of the members are actually doctors and research experts. Most are lawyers, and pharma big bosses. Viagra got passed in no time where as other drugs that can save lives sit there and die because there is less profit margine or a lawyer thinks there is too much risk at being suied.

Back in the 30s with polio, everyone was affraid to take the vaccine, now we know how silly that was.

Bottom line, if your health and do things in a responsible manner and take no excessive risks, then I see nothing wrong with trying. That is how science moves forward.

» Virgo -
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»
» The bottom line is that nobody, including me, has actually DONE the cancer
» patient test yet. We’ve all been dancing around it for one reason or
» another. Mostly safety, money, and the availability of drugs.
»
» To do it exactly like they did, you’d need to amass some Genfilitnib and
» Cyclosporine pills. Even in the generic forms (which introduces the risk
» of fake or watered-down drugs) that could cost $1000 USD or more. And
» that’s only IF you can find a reliable online source for the generics.
» These drugs are pretty uncommon even for overseas pharmas. And I recall
» that Genfilitnib has been cited in a few articles as a high risk of
» recieving counterfeit pills.
»
» Furthermore, even with all those pills you are still going to have to
» depress your immune system for a long time (at least several weeks) and
» that can bring its own problems. You are basically going to have to
» re-create similar conditions to someone taking medication to avoid
» rejection of a transplanted organ. This may not be pleasant and you DON’T
» want to get sick with anything at the time.
»
»
» All that is for one attempt of the Folica/cancer patient experiment.
» You’d be smart to only do it on a small inconspicuous area first. If it
» works, then you’ll need another $1000 USD or whatever you spent in order to
» do it again.

Cyclosporine

question: Cyclosporine is dangerous stuff though is it not it can cause liver failure and even worse cancer?

truth is though i cant go on living like this its not really living so if i have no choice… even if it does mean the worst possible outcome.

when i have the money i will do it.

» Dear all,
»
» What is the most promising treatment out there using stem cells?

egg cooking.

You can see in the above example two cells which will turn into fresh hair when cooked. Meat you in five years.

Cal,

What you’re talking about highly interests me. I have not heard or read too much about these drugs and what not. Where did you get this information?

This whole issue was daily conversation around here about 1-2 years ago.

The bottom line is that a couple of cancer patients taking Genfilitnib pills (for cancer) accidentally got some SERIOUS hair regrowth. One on the scalp and the other on the end of their nose(!) We’re talking about something much more significant than anything you’d see from Minoxidil or anything. And in the case of the guy with the head regrowth, he was growing strong dense new hair right smack in the middle of a NW#6 balded scalp.

These cancer patients probably accidentally recreated a situation similar to the Folica science. A lotta reading of patent filings and interviews leads us to that point. We are guessing that the combination of the Genfilitnib (mentioned in several Folica patents as a potential primary component) and the immune suppression caused by cancer left them in a position to grow hair on the site of any injury. (lab mice grew hair on human skin grafts under these kinds of conditions.) Then we guess these two cancer patients probably got a sunburn on the head/nose and that provided the superficial injury to spur the growth.

We don’t know anything sure, but this guess would fit the scenario as far as we currently understand how stuff works.

» Cal,
»
» What you’re talking about highly interests me. I have not heard or read
» too much about these drugs and what not. Where did you get this
» information?

»
»
» This whole issue was daily conversation around here about 1-2 years ago.
»
»
» The bottom line is that a couple of cancer patients taking Genfilitnib
» pills (for cancer) accidentally got some SERIOUS hair regrowth. One on the
» scalp and the other on the end of their nose(!) We’re talking about
» something much more significant than anything you’d see from Minoxidil or
» anything. And in the case of the guy with the head regrowth, he was
» growing strong dense new hair right smack in the middle of a NW#6 balded
» scalp.
»
» These cancer patients probably accidentally recreated a situation similar
» to the Folica science. A lotta reading of patent filings and interviews
» leads us to that point. We are guessing that the combination of the
» Genfilitnib (mentioned in several Folica patents as a potential primary
» component) and the immune suppression caused by cancer left them in a
» position to grow hair on the site of any injury. (lab mice grew hair on
» human skin grafts under these kinds of conditions.) Then we guess these
» two cancer patients probably got a sunburn on the head/nose and that
» provided the superficial injury to spur the growth.
»
» We don’t know anything sure, but this guess would fit the scenario as far
» as we currently understand how stuff works.

Can someone post the link (or upload to a server) of the original study of the cancer patient? I’m searching that study, but I can’t find it.

Thanks.

» Dear all,
»
» What is the most promising treatment out there using stem cells? Is it
» the work of Dr. George Cotsarelis or perhaps that of Dr. Elaine Fuchs.
» While the latter’s goal maybe different, it seems she has had the most
» promising resluts although I can’t seem to find any recent reports or
» papers from either. Has anyone tried to contact the researches directly to
» volunteer as a test subject?

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/dermatol/faculty/cotsarelis.html

Above are links to lists of papers from both. I think that Cotsarelis will probably come up with a treatment sooner but Fuchs will be more like to piece together the molecular instructions required to eventually “cure” hair loss. I absolutely agree with the Asia idea. They already have and have had for years a gene therapy for cancer on the market:

‘On October 16, 2003, Shenzhen SiBiono GenTech (Shenzhen, China), obtained a drug license from the State Food and Drug Administration of China (SFDA; Beijing, China) for its recombinant Ad-p53 gene therapy for head and neck squamous cell carcinoma (HNSCC)—a cancer that accounts for about 10% of the 2.5 million annual new cancer patients in China. Sold under the brand name Gendicine, the world’s first commercial gene therapy…’
http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v22/n1/full/nbt0104-3.html

While in the US there are no approved GT products or procedures that I know of.

» Dear all,
»
» What is the most promising treatment out there using stem cells? Is it
» the work of Dr. George Cotsarelis or perhaps that of Dr. Elaine Fuchs.
» While the latter’s goal maybe different, it seems she has had the most
» promising resluts although I can’t seem to find any recent reports or
» papers from either. Has anyone tried to contact the researches directly to
» volunteer as a test subject?

I think here you can at least READ the latest about what you are looking for …
Reviewed papers

Just read the CONCLUSION in the paper - and you will know what’s going on already out there in lot’s of companies.

» Dear all,
»
» What is the most promising treatment out there using stem cells? Is it
» the work of Dr. George Cotsarelis or perhaps that of Dr. Elaine Fuchs.
» While the latter’s goal maybe different, it seems she has had the most
» promising resluts although I can’t seem to find any recent reports or
» papers from either. Has anyone tried to contact the researches directly to
» volunteer as a test subject?

There are promises but not promising results.