Left side lag

Hair Transplant
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» Well I’ve had the bumps there for 2-3 months and when I expressed my
» concerns to my clinic I was told that this was the normal process. I’ve
» shown my 8th month pictures to both the rep as well as the lead tech and I
» was told to wait it out…and waiting is what I’ve been doing. I know in
» the heart of my heart something is wrong.

Wow I have never seen bumps like that before, what are they, does it hurt, itch? sorry for you man.

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Ace,

Dr. Armani believes the bumps are from a minor infection possible caused by the minox. We have some ointments that should clear this up for you.

We’d like to set up a time for you to meet with Dr. Armani so you may have an in person evaluation. Please give me a shout when you have a moment.

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Pats, I’ve emailed you a couple days ago and I tried calling david yesterday. I don’t believe this is an infection, there area is not sore, red, hot and I’ve looked like this for a few months. Infections don’t behave im this manner.

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» Pats, I’ve emailed you a couple days ago and I tried calling david
» yesterday. I don’t believe this is an infection, there area is not sore,
» red, hot and I’ve looked like this for a few months. Infections don’t
» behave im this manner.

Again, we will know more once we are able to evaluate in person. I will do whatever I can to make sure your result turns out as expected. Please call me on my cell when you have a moment.

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This resembles some of the poor HT work which i have seen done from the 80’s - pitting, ridging, bumps, etc.

Can we confirm this is an Armani patient since pats is all of a sudden on top of this case? I bet hes wishing he responded to this patients email a few days ago before this pic got out.

Also you guys should notice how pats posted a 5 month “good” pic when at the same time this 10 month hairline pic was readily available on the same blog site. Be careful of whenever he presents something, 1 of 2 times it not what it seems

» what is up with those bumps? why is the clinic telling him this is
» normal???

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I just want to clear the waters here as I know many of you look for an excuse to bash one clinic over another when an opportunity presents its self. Acutally pats has been trying to get a hold of me as my personal contact info has changed. I spoke to Eric this morning and plan on talking to Dr. Armani over the phone later today or possibly tomorrow. I will probably need to be evaluated in person to be better assessed. For the time being I will pull down my recent blog until this is sorted out. Thanks.

Ace

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Good Luck, Ace. Let us know what Armani tells you when you speak with him. Do you think there are hairs growing under the skin, and thats what the bumps are from? What do they feel like? Certainly doesn’t spell infection to me. Either way, hope you keep posting, and I wouldn’t worry about taking your blog down, there’s no reason this information should be kept secret about clinics… the good stuff and bad.

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I would take that bet cal, but you said “all the way” lol. I don’t think any hair transplant gets 100% growth rate.

I’m glad to se I’m not the only one up late at night lurking the forum! (assuming ure in my time-zone):smiley:

Who said he shouldn’t continue to go publicize this whole thing?

I didn’t quite say “all the way” I said “all go away.” But it’s almost the same difference I guess.

This is not the first time a patient of a certain clinic has shown up on a major hair loss website like this. Dissatisfied with their FUE work not coming in on time and wondering if it would improve and even up.

But these things dont go the distance. The patient is contacted by the clinic and soon hushes up about the real outcome of the original HT in question. They end up just saying non-commital answers like “I will not discuss further details but the clinic has dealt with the problem to my full satisfaction.”

I guess you could say these cases have a way of being “settled out of court.” The rest of us don’t get an answer about what happened with the actual HT work in the case, usually because the whole thing gets locked down before 12-18 months have fully elapsed since the surgery. So we have our suspicions but it’s not fair to declare it a failure yet without all the evidence. (Which we will conveniently never get to see.)

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For the pessimistic posters and people that think things are “settled out of court” I took my blog down because of all the negative energy involving my head. I posted my pictures to get opinions or if anyone had similar problems during their post-op HT, not to get posts like “did you see this hairline” or making paralles of a 1980’s transplant. If some of us can approach this in a mature manner I wouldn’t have to take my blog down.

Dr. Armani promptly called me this evening and we had a lengthy conversation over the phone that went well. He gave me his personal cell phone number to contact him at anytime in the future. From our discussion Dr. A thinks 2 things can explain the issue in my hairline.

1-the bumps are hairs ready to break though
2-the minox

I hope that this is new hair ready to grow, that would be ideal. Dr. A is sending me a minox/steroid solution to attack promblem 2, and waiting another 2-3 months to see if scenario 1 proves true (crossing my fingers). Dr. A also mentioned that its not uncommon for the left side to lag. Regardless Dr. A reassured me that if things don’t look as well as I like that 2-3 months from now that I may undergo a complmentary touch up.

Ace

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» For the pessimistic posters and people that think things are “settled out
» of court” I took my blog down because of all the negative energy involving
» my head. I posted my pictures to get opinions or if anyone had similar
» problems during their post-op HT, not to get posts like “did you see this
» hairline” or making paralles of a 1980’s transplant. If some of us can
» approach this in a mature manner I wouldn’t have to take my blog down.
»
» Dr. Armani promptly called me this evening and we had a lengthy
» conversation over the phone that went well. He gave me his personal cell
» phone number to contact him at anytime in the future. From our discussion
» Dr. A thinks 2 things can explain the issue in my hairline.
»
» 1-the bumps are hairs ready to break though
» 2-the minox
»
» I hope that this is new hair ready to grow, that would be ideal. Dr. A is
» sending me a minox/steroid solution to attack promblem 2, and waiting
» another 2-3 months to see if scenario 1 proves true (crossing my fingers).
» Dr. A also mentioned that its not uncommon for the left side to lag.
» Regardless Dr. A reassured me that if things don’t look as well as I like
» that 2-3 months from now that I may undergo a complmentary touch up.
»
» Ace

Ace when did you first notice the bumps? Also, what has it got to do with minox, Dr. Armani thinks minox may be causing the bumps? Good luck.

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Very true, these bumps have been there for a few months, don;t you think the hairs would have pushed through by now? What happened to the “infection?” If you get a complimentary “Touchup” how will the bumps be taken care of?

Does Armani give patients the “bumps” a lot??? Really wish the Armani company’s marketing was more straightforward. Can’t trust a thing from those guys, I mean the representative for the Armani company on this forum won’t even post his own HT pics, it’s a joke!!!

» Ace when did you first notice the bumps? Also, what has it got to do with
» minox, Dr. Armani thinks minox may be causing the bumps? Good luck.

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Woh, can we find out for sure what the bumps really were before bashing the clinic? Why the hostility.

» Very true, these bumps have been there for a few months, don;t you think
» the hairs would have pushed through by now? What happened to the
» “infection?” If you get a complimentary “Touchup” how will the bumps be
» taken care of?
»
» Does Armani give patients the “bumps” a lot???
What kind of an ignorant question is that?

Really wish the Armani
» company’s marketing was more straightforward. Can’t trust a thing from
» those guys, I mean the representative for the Armani company on this forum
» won’t even post his own HT pics, it’s a joke!!!
Straight forward about what??? What do the reps or the company’s marketing have anything to do with the current situation at hand???:lookaround:
»
»
»
»
» » Ace when did you first notice the bumps? Also, what has it got to do
» with
» » minox, Dr. Armani thinks minox may be causing the bumps? Good luck.

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» This resembles some of the poor HT work which i have seen done from the
» 80’s - pitting, ridging, bumps, etc.
I have never seen anything like it. Not even in the 80’s. The only thing from the 80’s I recollect are the pluggy looks. What are you blabbering about?
»
»
»
» Can we confirm this is an Armani patient since pats is all of a sudden on
» top of this case? I bet hes wishing he responded to this patients email a
» few days ago before this pic got out.
The patient just finished saying the clinic has attemped to contact him numerous times but his contact info was changed without any notice to the clinic. Pats is the one who emailed the patient…not vice-versa. Where are you getting your facts from???
»
» Also you guys should notice how pats posted a 5 month “good” pic when at
» the same time this 10 month hairline pic was readily available on the same
» blog site. Be careful of whenever he presents something, 1 of 2 times it
» not what it seems
I am the one who posted the guy’s blog from HLH and I can reassure you there were no pics past the 5 month period of the patient in his blog. Hence the reason for me asking him to post “up to date pics” and which in another post he replied and said he just put up new pics. But you knew that already because YOU were the one who said we shouldnt be making assumptions without knowing his current condition…you must’ve forgot. It’s all here in black and white.

We get the point, you’re angry.:angry:
»
»
» » what is up with those bumps? why is the clinic telling him this is
» » normal???

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yeh not a probem cal, forgive me for misquoting you. Did you read my post to you in the Topicals section of the forum? I wanted to pick your brain a little as I know you’re informed than I am in tha area. I’d appreciate your input.

» I would take that bet cal, but you said “all the way” lol. I
» don’t think any hair transplant gets 100% growth rate.
»
» I’m glad to se I’m not the only one up late at night lurking the forum!
» (assuming ure in my time-zone):smiley:
»
»
» Who said he shouldn’t continue to go publicize this whole thing?
»
»
» I didn’t quite say “all the way” I said “all go away.” But it’s almost
» the same difference I guess.
»
»
» This is not the first time a patient of a certain clinic has shown up on a
» major hair loss website like this. Dissatisfied with their FUE work not
» coming in on time and wondering if it would improve and even up.
»
» But these things dont go the distance. The patient is contacted by the
» clinic and soon hushes up about the real outcome of the original HT in
» question. They end up just saying non-commital answers like “I will not
» discuss further details but the clinic has dealt with the problem to my
» full satisfaction.”
»
» I guess you could say these cases have a way of being “settled out of
» court.” The rest of us don’t get an answer about what happened with the
» actual HT work in the case, usually because the whole thing gets locked
» down before 12-18 months have fully elapsed since the surgery. So we have
» our suspicions but it’s not fair to declare it a failure yet without all
» the evidence. (Which we will conveniently never get to see.)

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» » For the pessimistic posters and people that think things are “settled
» out
» » of court” I took my blog down because of all the negative energy
» involving
» » my head. I posted my pictures to get opinions or if anyone had similar
» » problems during their post-op HT, not to get posts like “did you see
» this
» » hairline” or making paralles of a 1980’s transplant. If some of us can
» » approach this in a mature manner I wouldn’t have to take my blog down.
» »
» » Dr. Armani promptly called me this evening and we had a lengthy
» » conversation over the phone that went well. He gave me his personal
» cell
» » phone number to contact him at anytime in the future. From our
» discussion
» » Dr. A thinks 2 things can explain the issue in my hairline.
» »
» » 1-the bumps are hairs ready to break though
» » 2-the minox
» »
» » I hope that this is new hair ready to grow, that would be ideal. Dr. A
» is
» » sending me a minox/steroid solution to attack promblem 2, and waiting
» » another 2-3 months to see if scenario 1 proves true (crossing my
» fingers).
» » Dr. A also mentioned that its not uncommon for the left side to lag.
» » Regardless Dr. A reassured me that if things don’t look as well as I
» like
» » that 2-3 months from now that I may undergo a complmentary touch up.
» »
» » Ace
»
» Ace when did you first notice the bumps? Also, what has it got to do with
» minox, Dr. Armani thinks minox may be causing the bumps? Good luck.

I don’t think it’s minox, we would have heard something by now already if minox causes bumps like those.

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Ace, If it makes you feel any better, I had some small bumps around months 5 to 8… They weren’t very visible, but I could definitely feel them. They slowly went away and now there is nothing there at all. Some of them were small ingrown hairs and it seemed like some of my pores collected some sebum… gross I know, but everything is better now and all smooth… :wink:

I say give it some time, not everyone grows at the same rate, some people ake longer.

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» Ace, If it makes you feel any better, I had some small bumps around months
» 5 to 8… They weren’t very visible, but I could definitely feel them.
» They slowly went away and now there is nothing there at all. Some of them
» were small ingrown hairs and it seemed like some of my pores collected some
» sebum… gross I know, but everything is better now and all smooth… :wink:
»
»
» I say give it some time, not everyone grows at the same rate, some people
» ake longer.

SDS, Thanks for the support. I recently have had similar experiences as you discribe with the sebum. I went back and looked at some of my older pictures. My 6.5 month pictures did now have these bumps and I would post pictures to show everyone but I know that will only provoke certain people. I hope these bumps are a sign of and growth waiting to happen…if not growth I hope they go away. We will see how things go over the next 2 months or so.

Ace

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» » Ace, If it makes you feel any better, I had some small bumps around
» months
» » 5 to 8… They weren’t very visible, but I could definitely feel them.
» » They slowly went away and now there is nothing there at all. Some of
» them
» » were small ingrown hairs and it seemed like some of my pores collected
» some
» » sebum… gross I know, but everything is better now and all smooth…
» :wink:
» »
» »
» » I say give it some time, not everyone grows at the same rate, some
» people
» » ake longer.
»
»
» SDS, Thanks for the support. I recently have had similar experiences as
» you discribe with the sebum. I went back and looked at some of my older
» pictures. My 6.5 month pictures did now have these bumps and I would post
» pictures to show everyone but I know that will only provoke certain people.
» I hope these bumps are a sign of and growth waiting to happen…if not
» growth I hope they go away. We will see how things go over the next 2
» months or so.
»
» Ace

Well, unless this is something very common, they shouldn’t have asked you to wait when you first told them about the bumps. They should have asked to examine you in person right away. Are they getting worse over the past 2 months or they look pretty much the same since you first noticed the bumps?

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Hi MJ, thank you for your post. I haven’t been around this weekend because I’ve had more exciting things to do, but I appreciate your time. I will respond to each of your “points.” thanks

» » This resembles some of the poor HT work which i have seen done from the
» » 80’s - pitting, ridging, bumps, etc.
» I have never seen anything like it. Not even in the 80’s. The only thing
» from the 80’s I recollect are the pluggy looks. What are you blabbering
» about?
» »
» »

I’m blabbering about this guys poor HT result and hairline. Armani places about 2,000+ grafts in every hairline, I see about 50 follicles in this one. Not to mention he said the hairline was already existent, which leads me to believe this yield is close to zero. If the yield was greater than 1% we would have seen SOME growth by now.

» »
» » Can we confirm this is an Armani patient since pats is all of a sudden
» on
» » top of this case? I bet hes wishing he responded to this patients email
» a
» » few days ago before this pic got out.
» The patient just finished saying the clinic has attemped to contact him
» numerous times but his contact info was changed without any notice to the
» clinic. Pats is the one who emailed the patient…not vice-versa. Where are
» you getting your facts from???

Thanks for the memo. This info came out after my post. Please check times, appreciate your care.

» »
» » Also you guys should notice how pats posted a 5 month “good” pic when
» at
» » the same time this 10 month hairline pic was readily available on the
» same
» » blog site. Be careful of whenever he presents something, 1 of 2 times
» it
» » not what it seems
» I am the one who posted the guy’s blog from HLH and I can reassure you
» there were no pics past the 5 month period of the patient in his blog.
» Hence the reason for me asking him to post “up to date pics” and which in
» another post he replied and said he just put up new pics. But you knew that
» already because YOU were the one who said we shouldnt be making assumptions
» without knowing his current condition…you must’ve forgot. It’s all here
» in black and white.

Thank for the black and white, haha, you must tell it like it is. If this were the case you wouldnt like armani so much. Anyway, back to the point, I found the blog from another thread and post he had, which has the 10 month pics readily available, but he removed them. Luckily, I posted the bumpy hairline, check it out, Armani lover…

»
» We get the point, you’re angry.:angry:

Thank for the assumption, you must be very smart. Please direct your energy to a worthy cause, thanks

» »
» »
» » » what is up with those bumps? why is the clinic telling him this is
» » » normal???

Finally back to my original point, what is up with those bumps??? It does resemble an 80s hair transplant, I hope one of the top docs can repair this work.

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Your points are 100% valid peter and one would be insane to think otherwise. You just went off the cliff with that one. Don’t take it personal.

And it’s very nice to know you’ve things to do over the weekend. Apparently I don’t as I just got out of surgery so you got me there…I have no life.