Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum(and styling cream etc)

They actually delivered, Pete :slight_smile:

  • Lamas proprietary Ancient Herbal blend of Therapeutic Chinese Herbs

  • Apple Stem Cells, specialized long-living plant cells that have unique growth characteristics to invigorate hair growth

  • Swertia Extract increases microcirculation and stimulates weak hair follicles to enhance hair growth

  • Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract naturally aids in baldness-prevention

  • Paeonia Albiflora Root Extract controls premature balding

  • Ginseng and Prunus Persica (Peach) Seed Extracts promote re-growth for receding hairlines and frontal baldness

  • Polygonum Multiflorum Extract, regularly used by Chinese doctors to treat thinning hair, also restores the texture and color of graying hair

  • Paraben-free

More info on the apple stem cells:

http://www.mibellebiochemistry.com/pdfs/Stimulation_of_stem_cells_for_real_skin_rejuvenation_CosmeticsDesign_08_2008.pdf

"In contrast to embryonic stem cells, adult stem cells persist for the whole life. They are indispensable to the maintenance and repair of tissues. Some few stem cells in the basal layer of the epidermis produce all the other keratinocytes that differentiate to the stratum corneum and are renewed every four weeks. In older skin, the epidermal stem cells are less active and lower in number leading to wrinkles and an increased renewal time of the epidermis. Plants too have stem cells. After isolation, they can be cultured in liquid media. PhytoCellTec™ Malus Domestica, a preparation of apple stem cells, was found to stimulate the proliferation of human blood stem cells and to increase the lifespan of skin fibroblast cells and of isolated hair follicles.

"Results and Discussions Protection of Human Stem Cells Stem cells from umbilical cord blood represent an ethically correct source of human stem cells. An extract of Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was tested on cell viability of umbilical cord blood stem cells in two different studies. First, the effect of the extract on the proliferative activity of the human stem cells was analyzed. There was a clear, concentration-dependent effect found (Fig. 4). At only 0.1%, the extract stimulated cell proliferation by 80%. In a second experiment, the stem cells were stressed through irradiation with UV light.

“Retardation of Senescence in Isolated Hair Follicles Human hair follicles can be isolated by microdissection from skin fragments that are left after facelift surgery. Only follicles in the anagen phase are collected. Hair follicles are mini organs that represent a natural coculture model of epidermal and melanocyte stem cells and differentiated cells. The follicles can be maintained in a growth medium where they elongate until about day 14. Then the follicle cells gradually become senescent or undergo apoptosis which is a programmed cell death. Because of the lack of blood circulation, isolated hair follicles cannot be kept alive and growing for a longer period. But isolated hair follicles are test models to screen for actives that can delay the necrosis process. Addition of 0.2% of an extract of Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was found to slightly but clearly postpone senescenceand apoptosis-induced necrosis. Figure 6 shows that follicles kept in presence of the Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cell extract continued to elongate until day 18, whereas the control follicles started to shrink after day 14.”

» They actually delivered, Pete :slight_smile:
»
» http://www.lamasbeauty.com/chinese_herbs_hair_care.html
»
» * Lamas proprietary Ancient Herbal blend of Therapeutic Chinese Herbs
»
» * Apple Stem Cells, specialized long-living plant cells that have unique
» growth characteristics to invigorate hair growth
»
» * Swertia Extract increases microcirculation and stimulates weak hair
» follicles to enhance hair growth
»
» * Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract naturally aids in baldness-prevention
»
» * Paeonia Albiflora Root Extract controls premature balding
»
» * Ginseng and Prunus Persica (Peach) Seed Extracts promote re-growth for
» receding hairlines and frontal baldness
»
» * Polygonum Multiflorum Extract, regularly used by Chinese doctors to
» treat thinning hair, also restores the texture and color of graying hair
»
» * Paraben-free

Thanks Jacob!

At last a TOPICAL from the lamas range.

Im interested in a couple of the ingredients listed, I would have liked to have seem some ingredients that boosted bloodflow and helped a little more with inflammation.

Have you seen anything else thats good topical wise?

Regards
Pete

» More info on the apple stem cells:
»
» http://www.mibellebiochemistry.com/pdfs/Stimulation_of_stem_cells_for_real_skin_rejuvenation_CosmeticsDesign_08_2008.pdf
»
» "In contrast to embryonic stem cells, adult stem cells persist for the
» whole life. They are indispensable to the maintenance and repair of
» tissues. Some few stem cells in the basal layer of the epidermis produce
» all the other keratinocytes that differentiate to the stratum corneum and
» are renewed every four weeks. In older skin, the epidermal stem cells are
» less active and lower in number leading to wrinkles and an increased
» renewal time of the epidermis. Plants too have stem cells. After isolation,
» they can be cultured in liquid media. PhytoCellTec™ Malus Domestica, a
» preparation of apple stem cells, was found to stimulate the proliferation
» of human blood stem cells and to increase the lifespan of skin fibroblast
» cells and of isolated hair follicles.
»
» "Results and Discussions Protection of Human Stem Cells Stem cells from
» umbilical cord blood represent an ethically correct source of human stem
» cells. An extract of Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was tested on cell
» viability of umbilical cord blood stem cells in two different studies.
» First, the effect of the extract on the proliferative activity of the human
» stem cells was analyzed. There was a clear, concentration-dependent effect
» found (Fig. 4). At only 0.1%, the extract stimulated cell proliferation by
» 80%. In a second experiment, the stem cells were stressed through
» irradiation with UV light.
»
» “Retardation of Senescence in Isolated Hair Follicles Human hair follicles
» can be isolated by microdissection from skin fragments that are left after
» facelift surgery. Only follicles in the anagen phase are collected. Hair
» follicles are mini organs that represent a natural coculture model of
» epidermal and melanocyte stem cells and differentiated cells. The follicles
» can be maintained in a growth medium where they elongate until about day
» 14. Then the follicle cells gradually become senescent or undergo apoptosis
» which is a programmed cell death. Because of the lack of blood circulation,
» isolated hair follicles cannot be kept alive and growing for a longer
» period. But isolated hair follicles are test models to screen for actives
» that can delay the necrosis process. Addition of 0.2% of an extract of
» Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was found to slightly but clearly postpone
» senescenceand apoptosis-induced necrosis. Figure 6 shows that follicles
» kept in presence of the Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cell extract continued to
» elongate until day 18, whereas the control follicles started to shrink
» after day 14.”

Whats are your thoughts on the apple extract in the topical - especially as there is no mention of liposome delivery. Do you really think its getting deep enough?

Regards
Pete

» » More info on the apple stem cells:
» »
» »
» http://www.mibellebiochemistry.com/pdfs/Stimulation_of_stem_cells_for_real_skin_rejuvenation_CosmeticsDesign_08_2008.pdf
» »
» » "In contrast to embryonic stem cells, adult stem cells persist for the
» » whole life. They are indispensable to the maintenance and repair of
» » tissues. Some few stem cells in the basal layer of the epidermis
» produce
» » all the other keratinocytes that differentiate to the stratum corneum
» and
» » are renewed every four weeks. In older skin, the epidermal stem cells
» are
» » less active and lower in number leading to wrinkles and an increased
» » renewal time of the epidermis. Plants too have stem cells. After
» isolation,
» » they can be cultured in liquid media. PhytoCellTec™ Malus Domestica, a
» » preparation of apple stem cells, was found to stimulate the
» proliferation
» » of human blood stem cells and to increase the lifespan of skin
» fibroblast
» » cells and of isolated hair follicles.
» »
» » "Results and Discussions Protection of Human Stem Cells Stem cells from
» » umbilical cord blood represent an ethically correct source of human
» stem
» » cells. An extract of Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was tested on cell
» » viability of umbilical cord blood stem cells in two different studies.
» » First, the effect of the extract on the proliferative activity of the
» human
» » stem cells was analyzed. There was a clear, concentration-dependent
» effect
» » found (Fig. 4). At only 0.1%, the extract stimulated cell proliferation
» by
» » 80%. In a second experiment, the stem cells were stressed through
» » irradiation with UV light.
» »
» » “Retardation of Senescence in Isolated Hair Follicles Human hair
» follicles
» » can be isolated by microdissection from skin fragments that are left
» after
» » facelift surgery. Only follicles in the anagen phase are collected.
» Hair
» » follicles are mini organs that represent a natural coculture model of
» » epidermal and melanocyte stem cells and differentiated cells. The
» follicles
» » can be maintained in a growth medium where they elongate until about
» day
» » 14. Then the follicle cells gradually become senescent or undergo
» apoptosis
» » which is a programmed cell death. Because of the lack of blood
» circulation,
» » isolated hair follicles cannot be kept alive and growing for a longer
» » period. But isolated hair follicles are test models to screen for
» actives
» » that can delay the necrosis process. Addition of 0.2% of an extract of
» » Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cells was found to slightly but clearly
» postpone
» » senescenceand apoptosis-induced necrosis. Figure 6 shows that follicles
» » kept in presence of the Uttwiler Spätlauber stem cell extract continued
» to
» » elongate until day 18, whereas the control follicles started to shrink
» » after day 14.”
»
»
»
»
» Whats are your thoughts on the apple extract in the topical - especially
» as there is no mention of liposome delivery. Do you really think its
» getting deep enough?
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

Jacob,

I know there are are other natural ingredients that are said to promote stem cells ie laminara. Are there others that you have come across?

Regards
Pete

»
» Whats are your thoughts on the apple extract in the topical - especially
» as there is no mention of liposome delivery. Do you really think its
» getting deep enough?
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

The ingredients list does seem to have the ingredients mentioned by the company that makes the encapsulated apple stem cell ingredient. Why it’s not mentioned on their website…I don’t know. I’ll see if I can get a response.

Elsom was talking about making the apple stem cells available via The Formulator.

» Jacob,
»
» I know there are are other natural ingredients that are said to promote
» stem cells ie laminara. Are there others that you have come across?
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

None are coming to mind…although it seems there might be a thread out there on that…

»
»
»
» Thanks Jacob!
»
» At last a TOPICAL from the lamas range.
»
» Im interested in a couple of the ingredients listed, I would have liked to
» have seem some ingredients that boosted bloodflow and helped a little more
» with inflammation.
»
»
» Have you seen anything else thats good topical wise?
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

I haven’t done a search on each ingredient…but my guess is some will do what you’re looking for, besides the ones they mention.

I’m currently using ScalpXtreme…would use their Krillosome product if I had the money…other than that, can’t think of anything. Except maybe those Caregen products being discussed at Regrowth, but it seems they and ones similar to them have been around for awhile, so I’m a little puzzled as to why there’s not more feedback on them out there.

» » Jacob,
» »
» » I know there are are other natural ingredients that are said to promote
» » stem cells ie laminara. Are there others that you have come across?
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» None are coming to mind…although it seems there might be a thread out
» there on that…

Jacob

Have you actually thought about making your own topical via the formulator?

Once I understand the inflammation cascades and the mechanism more, it would be interesting to put something together myself.

Regards
Pete

» » » Jacob,
» » »
» » » I know there are are other natural ingredients that are said to
» promote
» » » stem cells ie laminara. Are there others that you have come across?
» » »
» » »
» » » Regards
» » » Pete
» »
» » None are coming to mind…although it seems there might be a thread out
» » there on that…
»
»
»
» Jacob
»
» Have you actually thought about making your own topical via the
» formulator?
»
» Once I understand the inflammation cascades and the mechanism more, it
» would be interesting to put something together myself.
»
»

Yep…have done quite a few of them via the Formulator. I think my next one may include these apple stem cells(if available)…nano-royal jelly…and will have to look into the others…

» They actually delivered, Pete :slight_smile:
»
» http://www.lamasbeauty.com/chinese_herbs_hair_care.html
»
» * Lamas proprietary Ancient Herbal blend of Therapeutic Chinese Herbs
»
» * Apple Stem Cells, specialized long-living plant cells that have unique
» growth characteristics to invigorate hair growth
»
» * Swertia Extract increases microcirculation and stimulates weak hair
» follicles to enhance hair growth
»
» * Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract naturally aids in baldness-prevention
»
» * Paeonia Albiflora Root Extract controls premature balding
»
» * Ginseng and Prunus Persica (Peach) Seed Extracts promote re-growth for
» receding hairlines and frontal baldness
»
» * Polygonum Multiflorum Extract, regularly used by Chinese doctors to
» treat thinning hair, also restores the texture and color of graying hair
»
» * Paraben-free

Isn’t Glycyyhiza Glabra Root another name for Licorice? I thought I read somewhere that Licorice can cause hair to lose its pigmintation, and cause the hair to turn grey.

» »
»
»
» Isn’t Glycyyhiza Glabra Root another name for Licorice? I thought I read
» somewhere that Licorice can cause hair to lose its pigmintation, and cause
» the hair to turn grey.

That wouldn’t bother me. I’d just try out Elsom’s shampoo for grey hair when it comes out :lol2:

» » »
» »
» »
» » Isn’t Glycyyhiza Glabra Root another name for Licorice? I thought I
» read
» » somewhere that Licorice can cause hair to lose its pigmintation, and
» cause
» » the hair to turn grey.
»
» That wouldn’t bother me. I’d just try out Elsom’s shampoo for grey hair
» when it comes out :lol2:

Any ideas when its out?

Regards
Pete

» » » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Isn’t Glycyyhiza Glabra Root another name for Licorice? I thought I
» » read
» » » somewhere that Licorice can cause hair to lose its pigmintation, and
» » cause
» » » the hair to turn grey.
» »
» » That wouldn’t bother me. I’d just try out Elsom’s shampoo for grey hair
» » when it comes out :lol2:
»
»
»
» Any ideas when its out?
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

It’s out now…along with two new topicals: http://nanosomin.com/news/

» » » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » Isn’t Glycyyhiza Glabra Root another name for Licorice? I thought I
» » » read
» » » » somewhere that Licorice can cause hair to lose its pigmintation,
» and
» » » cause
» » » » the hair to turn grey.
» » »
» » » That wouldn’t bother me. I’d just try out Elsom’s shampoo for grey
» hair
» » » when it comes out :lol2:
» »
» »
» »
» » Any ideas when its out?
» »
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» It’s out now…along with two new topicals: http://nanosomin.com/news/

Thanks Jacob!!!

I see Dr Y will be coming out with some pretty cool topicals to help support regrowth ( I will post this on the topical forum ):

The ingredients int Terminal 1 seems like a primer topical to what ever is going to be in Terminal 2.What do you think of the ingredients?

Ingredients in Terminal 1 include: panthenol, MCT oil [medium-chain triglycerides], gamma amino butyric acid [GABA], ascorbyl palmitate, betaine, L-glycine, conjugated linoleic acid [CLA], climbazole, lauryl gallate, isonicotinate-N-oxide, grapefruit oil [Citrus grandis].

Regards
Pete

I’ll add this lamas topical to my regimen. I’ll post my results a few months later.

» I’ll add this lamas topical to my regimen. I’ll post my results a few
» months later.

It should be a good addition as the herbs will counter act the some of the inflammation involved topically.

Regards
Pete

What about regrowth? Any potential for that?

»
» It should be a good addition as the herbs will counter act the some of the
» inflammation involved topically.
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

» What about regrowth? Any potential for that?
»
»
»
» »
» » It should be a good addition as the herbs will counter act the some of
» the
» » inflammation involved topically.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete

Yes, I dont see why not.

However youll need to use something to lower inflammation SIGNIFICANTLY first ie PTO shampoo.

( Im actually researching something which will lower inflammation even more than shampoos - this is the area that has been missed !!)

The chinese herbs will boost SOD levels locally on the scalp, hence lowering inflammation and then should help with cellular health - which should stimulate cell production.

Regards
Pete

» » What about regrowth? Any potential for that?
» »
» »
» »
» » »
» » » It should be a good addition as the herbs will counter act the some
» of
» » the
» » » inflammation involved topically.
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Regards
» » » Pete
»
» Yes, I dont see why not.
»
» However youll need to use something to lower inflammation SIGNIFICANTLY
» first ie PTO shampoo.
»
» ( Im actually researching something which will lower inflammation even
» more than shampoos - this is the area that has been missed !!)
»
»
» The chinese herbs will boost SOD levels locally on the scalp, hence
» lowering inflammation and then should help with cellular health - which
» should stimulate cell production.
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

Perry,

Does the lamas formula contain any ingredients to boost bloodflow?

Regards
Pete