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It’s easy to be pessimistic in order to be “right”.
I would think fckhrls would actually be optimistic about the fact that there are two organizations that are VERY close (Histogen and Aderans) and there is one that is heavily backed by scientific research (Follica).
All we need is a single commercial product, and actual sales numbers, and that will open up the floodgates for heavy R&D funding for this specific problem.
» @Iron_Man
»
» It’s easy to be pessimistic in order to be “right”.
»
» I would think fckhrls would actually be optimistic about the fact that
» there are two organizations that are VERY close (Histogen and Aderans) and
» there is one that is heavily backed by scientific research (Follica).
»
» All we need is a single commercial product, and actual sales numbers, and
» that will open up the floodgates for heavy R&D funding for this specific
» problem.
@streo : No its not abou pessimis its about fckrls lack of everything, he is just frustrated because he is suffering from a rare form of alopecia and therefore he is just here in this threads to destroy hope and stuff like that.
Cause if he can never have a full head of hair, nobody has to.
And BTW how would you know that i am be bald when i am turning 30? You should give me the lotery numbers from next week my foreseeing friend.
To make things short, even with all your bullcrap you can never destroy my will to live happy, even with hairloss 
Now I feel pretty bad for the guy. Whatever his condition is, having a cure for everybody would actually push us closer to a cure for whatever it is he has.
Get some counseling dude. I look at some pictures of myself from 10 years ago and compare them with how I look now and there is a GIGANTIC gap in appearance. I have not aged at all aside from the hair loss and people think I’m not much older than 28 (I’m 38). Whenever I put a baseball cap on I look virtually the same as I did 10 years ago (aside from some minor stress induced facial fat), and some people actually knock off a few years. The only reason why I don’t wear one is because when I’m asked to take it off, there is a very dramatic change in my appearance, which is multiplied by the effect of “hat head”.
When I was in my 20s, it was normal for (good looking) women to introduce themselves to me, but now it’s as though I’m invisible to women. I’m certain confidence might have something to do with it, but it’s just the state of affairs nowadays.
Recently I got a buzz cut to see how going bald would look and the results were quite disastrous. I’m one of the unfortunate guys who just can’t pull that look off. Prior to hair loss, I was used to being responded to in certain ways, and I just cannot get around the fact that this new “look” I have (which is not me) has changed people’s perception of me (especially women!). But I’ve managed to deal with it in a positive way in recent years and have begun focusing on other strengths. Furthermore, the science is around the corner…and whatever progresses our knowledge towards finding a general cure would bring you closer to getting your hair back as well.
» @fckhrls
»
» did you see the links I posted? Please read that paper on the law of
» accelerating returns and give me some logical answers as to why this law
» does not apply to follicular science research.
»
» I’m on the edge of my seat bro.
Well, “the law of accelerating returns” is ANYTHING but a law. Its been popularized by Kurzweil (I’ve actually read his books - have you?) and others who draw unsubstantiated parallels between otherwise unrelated advances in disparate fields. The reality is that such exponential growth has not taken place in the health sciences, and that biotechnology has been relatively slow to develop in comparison to other technologies. There was an excellent article in the Economist recently about the disappointment in the human genome project. Remember when the human genome was decoded and everyone expected cancer to be cured and disorders to be corrected in vitro? None of it happened. Ten years on and very little useful science has come of it. The same can be said for stem cell research - lots of hype, lots of promises, and few (none?) viable protocols. Discoveries still take decades, trials still take years, and that’s not going to change.
How’s that, bro?
» » @Iron_Man
» »
» » It’s easy to be pessimistic in order to be “right”.
» »
» » I would think fckhrls would actually be optimistic about the fact that
» » there are two organizations that are VERY close (Histogen and Aderans)
» and
» » there is one that is heavily backed by scientific research (Follica).
» »
» » All we need is a single commercial product, and actual sales numbers,
» and
» » that will open up the floodgates for heavy R&D funding for this
» specific
» » problem.
»
» @streo : No its not abou pessimis its about fckrls lack of everything, he
» is just frustrated because he is suffering from a rare form of alopecia and
» therefore he is just here in this threads to destroy hope and stuff like
» that.
»
» Cause if he can never have a full head of hair, nobody has to.
I have a full head of hair. I started losing my hair at 20, but I’ve kept most of it with the aid of the Big Three. Unless I told you I was losing my hair, you’d never know.
I’m in no hurry for a cure (though I’d like one that would let me stop having to use the cumbersome protocol of dut, niz, and rogain), and that’s why I’m so much more of a REALIST than you guys. I’ve also been on this board for five years and have seen “cures” come and go. Follica may or may not work, but we won’t know for at least a DECADE - they haven’t even begun pretrials yet. Aderans seems to not be working, or they wouldn’t have grown their Phase II study - they’re trying new techniques because their first one didn’t work well enough. Histogen? Who knows? They’re avoiding the FDA, which is really fishy.
As for you being bald by 30, its likely given the aggresiveness of your hair loss (anyone who starts thinning before 30 will probably be a NW3-4 by 30). If I were you, I’d be using what has been PROVEN to work and not waste your time waiting around for things that may or may not work 10 years from now.
» @Leeroy.Jenkins
»
» Now I feel pretty bad for the guy. Whatever his condition is, having a
» cure for everybody would actually push us closer to a cure for whatever it
» is he has.
»
» @fckhrls
»
» Get some counseling dude. I look at some pictures of myself from 10 years
» ago and compare them with how I look now and there is a GIGANTIC gap in
» appearance. I have not aged at all aside from the hair loss and people
» think I’m not much older than 28 (I’m 38). Whenever I put a baseball cap
» on I look virtually the same as I did 10 years ago (aside from some minor
» stress induced facial fat), and some people actually knock off a few years.
» The only reason why I don’t wear one is because when I’m asked to take it
» off, there is a very dramatic change in my appearance, which is multiplied
» by the effect of “hat head”.
»
» When I was in my 20s, it was normal for (good looking) women to introduce
» themselves to me, but now it’s as though I’m invisible to women. I’m
» certain confidence might have something to do with it, but it’s just the
» state of affairs nowadays.
»
» Recently I got a buzz cut to see how going bald would look and the results
» were quite disastrous. I’m one of the unfortunate guys who just can’t pull
» that look off. Prior to hair loss, I was used to being responded to in
» certain ways, and I just cannot get around the fact that this new “look” I
» have (which is not me) has changed people’s perception of me (especially
» women!). But I’ve managed to deal with it in a positive way in recent
» years and have begun focusing on other strengths. Furthermore, the science
» is around the corner…and whatever progresses our knowledge towards
» finding a general cure would bring you closer to getting your hair back as
» well.
He was joking, you nut. I have a full head of hair.
Hey fckhrls, those who attack you are so childish. They look scared that maybe, your negativity, could jeopardize their dreams of HM. LOL.
I don’t agree with you in many points, but I agree that you have every right to be sceptical about the promises of HM. Hell, I have even changed my oppinion of Rassman. Years ago, I thought he was an asshole, but as years go by, he is proved to be somehow right in his predictions. At least, he is more accurate than the typical “positive thinker”.
» » @fckhrls
» »
» » did you see the links I posted? Please read that paper on the law of
» » accelerating returns and give me some logical answers as to why this
» law
» » does not apply to follicular science research.
» »
» » I’m on the edge of my seat bro.
»
» Well, “the law of accelerating returns” is ANYTHING but a law. Its been
» popularized by Kurzweil (I’ve actually read his books - have you?) and
» others who draw unsubstantiated parallels between otherwise unrelated
» advances in disparate fields. The reality is that such exponential growth
» has not taken place in the health sciences, and that biotechnology has been
» relatively slow to develop in comparison to other technologies. There was
» an excellent article in the Economist recently about the disappointment in
» the human genome project. Remember when the human genome was decoded and
» everyone expected cancer to be cured and disorders to be corrected in
» vitro? None of it happened. Ten years on and very little useful science
» has come of it. The same can be said for stem cell research - lots of
» hype, lots of promises, and few (none?) viable protocols. Discoveries
» still take decades, trials still take years, and that’s not going to
» change.
»
» How’s that, bro?
» Hey fckhrls, those who attack you are so childish. They look scared that
» maybe, your negativity, could jeopardize their dreams of HM. LOL.
O.k. - So let me be serious …
Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair cloning is a long way off, which is true.
But he’ll leave out the entire subject of hair multiplication, which is a much rosier picture. And he knows d*mn well that was what you were really asking about.
» Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair cloning
» is a long way off, which is true.
»
» But he’ll leave out the entire subject of hair multiplication, which is a
» much rosier picture. And he knows d*mn well that was what you were really
» asking about.
what’s the difference between hair cloning and hair multiplication? and why seems to be hm “much rosier” than the other one?
» » Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair
» cloning
» » is a long way off, which is true.
» »
» » But he’ll leave out the entire subject of hair multiplication, which is
» a
» » much rosier picture. And he knows d*mn well that was what you were
» really
» » asking about.
»
» what’s the difference between hair cloning and hair multiplication? and
» why seems to be hm “much rosier” than the other one?
Funny …
» Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair cloning
» is a long way off, which is true.
»
» But he’ll leave out the entire subject of hair multiplication, which is a
» much rosier picture. And he knows d*mn well that was what you were really
» asking about.
Great post.
Let’s just hope that Aderans comes through with a commercially viable procedure.
» » Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair
» cloning
» » is a long way off, which is true.
» »
» » But he’ll leave out the entire subject of hair multiplication, which is
» a
» » much rosier picture. And he knows d*mn well that was what you were
» really
» » asking about.
»
» Great post.
»
» Let’s just hope that Aderans comes through with a commercially viable
» procedure.
Cloning = reproducing Full hairs and transplant them (seems really futuristic)
multiplication = stuff to make your follicles work again
And i can confirm what the poster said, its the same in germany, a lot of people mistaken cloning with multiplication, and when they ask a doctor about it, they do the following
But they know that multiplication is near. Its only about saying " HEy you didnt asked me about multiplication you asked me about cloning and i was right, right?
But i can say you one thing for sure, every doc who tries this one should be boycotted and never be trusted again.
» Cloning = reproducing Full hairs and transplant them (seems really
» futuristic)
» multiplication = stuff to make your follicles work again
»
» And i can confirm what the poster said, its the same in germany, a lot of
» people mistaken cloning with multiplication, and when they ask a doctor
» about it, they do the following
»
» 1) they stress out CLONING in every of their answers and say “Wont be here
» in the next 20 years”
»
» But they know that multiplication is near. Its only about saying " HEy you
» didnt asked me about multiplication you asked me about cloning and i was
» right, right?
»
» But i can say you one thing for sure, every doc who tries this one should
» be boycotted and never be trusted again.
cool, it looks like I don’t really care about cloning, the multiplication can save my head yet 
just hoping they move faster as they can
however the cell-injection by aderans is multiplication 'cause they’re not trying to create a single follicle and then re-transplant him right? even if the aderans procedure seems to have a neogenesis percentage, this is HM not HC
/crossing fingers
» Ask Rassman about hair cloning. He’ll tell you the truth that hair cloning
» is a long way off, which is true.
June 28 2010, 10:52 am PT - Dr. Rassman: "Hair cloning just means there will be more hairs available for transplantation and you will not be limited to the donor hair. With respect to priority, our surgeries are scheduled on a first-come, first-served basis… but when it comes to procedures done with hair cloning, it’s all hypothetical at this point. I’d like to hope that in 5 years from now we’ll be transplanting with cloned hair, but that remains to be seen.
Cool!!
So according to the “expert” Dr. Rassman, Hair Cloning is, IN FACT, already HERE (Dr. Gho’s HST) - isn’t it ? 
» 100 years from now, we’ll have flying cars. Of course, we’ll all be dead.
» The key is whether or not that “matter of time” includes your useful life.
» For most on this board, that means within ten years. Right now, that’s
» looking unlikely.
I’ve been thinking for a while now. We need not concern ourselves with Hair Multiplication but rather a time machine. Yeah, I know it’s never going to happen but it would solve all our problems. All you’d have to do is go into the future, acquire the technology and bring it back. Although this is almost certainly impossible due to the challenges of the laws of physics and paradoxes it would cause. Yup, sorry for bringing back a dead thread but I just thought this was kinda an amusing antidote to throw out there. Ridiculous, yes. Do I care, no. It would still be frickin’ sweet. 
Unfortunately you cannot transgress(ie. go back in time) beyond the build date/time of the ‘time machine’ itself…sorry to say.
Time travel feasible? Dr Paul Davies (ozzy physicist)says ‘yes’.
Attended one of his lectures a few years back very interesting.
» Unfortunately you cannot transgress(ie. go back in time) beyond the build
» date/time of the ‘time machine’ itself…sorry to say.
» Time travel feasible? Dr Paul Davies (ozzy physicist)says ‘yes’.
» Attended one of his lectures a few years back very interesting.
Nice one but i prefere the facts we have already which are the GHO Technique, Are Pre Results and Histogen Pre Results and aso some foreign competitors.
So the moist thing i care about is
» » 100 years from now, we’ll have flying cars. Of course, we’ll all be
» dead.
» » The key is whether or not that “matter of time” includes your useful
» life.
» » For most on this board, that means within ten years. Right now, that’s
» » looking unlikely.
»
» I’ve been thinking for a while now. We need not concern ourselves with
» Hair Multiplication but rather a time machine. Yeah, I know it’s never
» going to happen but it would solve all our problems. All you’d have to do
» is go into the future, acquire the technology and bring it back. Although
» this is almost certainly impossible due to the challenges of the laws of
» physics and paradoxes it would cause. Yup, sorry for bringing back a dead
» thread but I just thought this was kinda an amusing antidote to throw out
» there. Ridiculous, yes. Do I care, no. It would still be frickin’ sweet.
As Steven Hawking said: “If time-travel is possible, where are the time travelers”. If time travel will become possible in the future, we should be seeing time travelers already today. On the other hand, being a PhD student in Physics myself, I agree that time travel should actually be possible.
» » » 100 years from now, we’ll have flying cars. Of course, we’ll all be
» » dead.
» » » The key is whether or not that “matter of time” includes your useful
» » life.
» » » For most on this board, that means within ten years. Right now,
» that’s
» » » looking unlikely.
» »
» » I’ve been thinking for a while now. We need not concern ourselves with
» » Hair Multiplication but rather a time machine. Yeah, I know it’s never
» » going to happen but it would solve all our problems. All you’d have to
» do
» » is go into the future, acquire the technology and bring it back.
» Although
» » this is almost certainly impossible due to the challenges of the laws
» of
» » physics and paradoxes it would cause. Yup, sorry for bringing back a
» dead
» » thread but I just thought this was kinda an amusing antidote to throw
» out
» » there. Ridiculous, yes. Do I care, no. It would still be frickin’ sweet.
»
»
»
» As Steven Hawking said: “If time-travel is possible, where are the time
» travelers”. If time travel will become possible in the future, we should be
» seeing time travelers already today. On the other hand, being a PhD student
» in Physics myself, I agree that time travel should actually be possible.
You are a PhD student in physics OH MY another Oppenheimer Fanboy. Time travel is not possible because it would alter our future AND if it would be possible in the Future we would have the technique by now.
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