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» http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2008/14/c4209.html

HAHAHA

Exciting new research in the field of hair restoration surgery is poised
to dramatically expand our options in treating hair loss within the next five
years," said Bessam K. Farjo, MD, president of the ISHRS


#3

This is a useless organisation & these meeting are nothing more than a way to have a holiday in a foreign country & claim it as a business expense.

In all it’s years of existence this organisation has done NOTHING to try & prevent people from being butchered.They have never created compulsory training schemes,no rules,nothing!

This is one of many organisations that will do everything it can to prevent Follica from ever being released.


#4

» This is a useless organisation & these meeting are nothing more than a way
» to have a holiday in a foreign country & claim it as a business expense.
»
» In all it’s years of existence this organisation has done NOTHING to try &
» prevent people from being butchered.They have never created compulsory
» training schemes,no rules,nothing!
»
» This is one of many organisations that will do everything it can to
» prevent Follica from ever being released.
Yeah actually that’s an interesting point. I have also thought about some organizations trying to stop the real cure, for example the inventors of Properica, Rogaine etc. Intimidate the researchers of Follica and do everything to stop them. Do you think it is likely to happen?


#5

» Yeah actually that’s an interesting point. I have also thought about some
» organizations trying to stop the real cure, for example the inventors of
» Properica, Rogaine etc. Intimidate the researchers of Follica and do
» everything to stop them. Do you think it is likely to happen?

Baccy made an excellent point further down the page.He said, ”I’m not willing to risk a process which I now personally know works, discarded by intervention from powerful yet unsavoury organisations within the hair industry. With the commercial introduction of this procedure,current medical cosmetic practitioners are going to lose a LOT of money, EVEN if they adapt and license themselves for the procedure. This is because the procedure is so much simpler than surgery and can indeed be done by oneself at home.
I wouldn’t like to think that a shadowy conglomerate of head butchers would get together and pay money to delay commercial marketing of this procedure, but I could well believe it.
Some people are bastards,. And some of those people are doctors. It’s just cold, hard logic.
If somebody presented the governments of the world with a unique, free energy source tomorrow, do you really think it would make it to market?
The answer is no.
Would the person who designed/discovered/invented it have wasted his/hers time?
No.
Proof of concept can rake in the cash. A bounty earned for delaying inception of the technology. A bounty raised and paid by a conglomerate of interested parties.
And let’s not be Devil Dodgers here and say that mankind is not capable of such a sin.
Sorry for the downbeat tone on an otherwise upturn of events but it is my take on things. And basically you can take it or leave it.”

I agree with what he has said.This is a fear I have held for a very long time.I was never happy that Farjo was involved in the ICX trials as he is the president of the ISHRS.If ICX TRC was successful,he & his peers would stand to lose millions.It would be like giving an oil baron an alternative to oil & asking him to make sure it is released to the public.Not gonna happen!

I also fear that powerful pharmaceutical companies like Merrik & Co who stand to lose tens of millions will do something to stop this from reaching the public.It has been said many times before that this is a billion dollar industry & allot of people will lose allot of money & allot of people will lose their jobs if there is a cure to hair loss.

Call me paranoid but I think it is a valid concern.It would take 1 doctor to cry wolf (cancer) & Follica will be finished.

Let’s hope we are all just paranoid & that Follica will be the answer to our prayers.


#6

» » Yeah actually that’s an interesting point. I have also thought about
» some
» » organizations trying to stop the real cure, for example the inventors
» of
» » Properica, Rogaine etc. Intimidate the researchers of Follica and do
» » everything to stop them. Do you think it is likely to happen?
»
» Baccy made an excellent point further down the page.He said,
» ”I’m not willing to risk a process which I now personally know
» works, discarded by intervention from powerful yet unsavoury organisations
» within the hair industry. With the commercial introduction of this
» procedure,current medical cosmetic practitioners are going to lose a LOT of
» money, EVEN if they adapt and license themselves for the procedure. This is
» because the procedure is so much simpler than surgery and can indeed be
» done by oneself at home.
» I wouldn’t like to think that a shadowy conglomerate of head butchers
» would get together and pay money to delay commercial marketing of this
» procedure, but I could well believe it.
» Some people are bastards,. And some of those people are doctors. It’s just
» cold, hard logic.
» If somebody presented the governments of the world with a unique, free
» energy source tomorrow, do you really think it would make it to market?
» The answer is no.
» Would the person who designed/discovered/invented it have wasted his/hers
» time?
» No.
» Proof of concept can rake in the cash. A bounty earned for delaying
» inception of the technology. A bounty raised and paid by a conglomerate of
» interested parties.
» And let’s not be Devil Dodgers here and say that mankind is not capable of
» such a sin.
» Sorry for the downbeat tone on an otherwise upturn of events but it is my
» take on things. And basically you can take it or leave it.”
»
» I agree with what he has said.This is a fear I have held for a very long
» time.I was never happy that Farjo was involved in the ICX trials as he is
» the president of the ISHRS.If ICX TRC was successful,he & his peers would
» stand to lose millions.It would be like giving an oil baron an alternative
» to oil & asking him to make sure it is released to the public.Not gonna
» happen!
»
» I also fear that powerful pharmaceutical companies like Merrik & Co who
» stand to lose tens of millions will do something to stop this from reaching
» the public.It has been said many times before that this is a billion dollar
» industry & allot of people will lose allot of money & allot of people will
» lose their jobs if there is a cure to hair loss.
»
» Call me paranoid but I think it is a valid concern.It would take 1 doctor
» to cry wolf (cancer) & Follica will be finished.
»
» Let’s hope we are all just paranoid & that Follica will be the answer to
» our prayers.

The researchers at Follica will make BILLIONS of dollars if their treatment is effective. I personally do not see anything stopping a truly effective treatment from reaching market if it exists.


#7

» The researchers at Follica will make BILLIONS of dollars if their
» treatment is effective. I personally do not see anything stopping a truly
» effective treatment from reaching market if it exists.

Follica will make billions whilst the surgical hair restoration industry & the hair loss pharmaceutical industry will lose billions & cease to exist.Do you really think these people will go down without a fight?

Ray Woods was crucified just for creating an alternate to strip,what do you think these people will do when a real cure is threatening them?


#8

By that logic, there’s no point in trying to find a cure for spinal cord injuries either. The wheelchair & safety ramp manufacturers will just throw enough money around to keep it off the market.

And there’s no point in trying to regrow amputated appendages, because of all the artificial limb manufacturers.

The list goes on.

I agree the HT and baldness industries are big (by current perceptions of the hair market). And I agree they’re gonna be pissed and they’ll fight it. But they just don’t stand a chance. It’s the numbers. It’ll be like trying to stop a tidal wave with a garden hose pointed at it.


#9

» By that logic, there’s no point in trying to find a cure for spinal cord
» injuries either. The wheelchair & safety ramp manufacturers will just
» throw enough money around to keep it off the market.
»
» And there’s no point in trying to regrow amputated appendages, because of
» all the artificial limb manufacturers.
»
» The list goes on.
»
»
»
» I agree the HT and baldness industries are big (by current perceptions of
» the hair market). And I agree they’re gonna be pissed and they’ll fight
» it. But they just don’t stand a chance. It’s the numbers. It’ll be like
» trying to stop a tidal wave with a garden hose pointed at it.

My naive point exactly


#10

»
» The researchers at Follica will make BILLIONS of dollars if their
» treatment is effective. I personally do not see anything stopping a truly
» effective treatment from reaching market if it exists.

That’s not the way backhanders work. They would be foolish to think they could prohibit the procedure from entering the market. Deals are made on a temporal basis. The conglomerate puts up a delaying ransom and it is agreed that the procedure is not brought to market. This allows the interested parties to consolidate their current fundings and make alternative business arrangements. In practice, this means that they step up their advertising push and bleed the industry dry as their clock ticks away. Drag in as many punters as they can to their clinics and then shut up shop. The conglomerate may also include wig-fitters (aka hair replacement). Price of a ‘delaying fee’ shared amongst many clinics etc would probably equate to an affordable sum and would be financially viable for the individual clinic provided that the potential profits incurred in the purchased ‘business extension of grace’ would exceed said payment. Two years would be a typical ‘business extension of grace’.
Add that to the FDA wanting their greedy Gordon Brown-like share and demanding trials and the whole thing could take…yes…you guessed it. Five years.
Yes. I’m a cynic.


#11

» »
» » The researchers at Follica will make BILLIONS of dollars if their
» » treatment is effective. I personally do not see anything stopping a
» truly
» » effective treatment from reaching market if it exists.
»
» That’s not the way backhanders work. They would be foolish to think they
» could prohibit the procedure from entering the market. Deals are made on a
» temporal basis. The conglomerate puts up a delaying ransom and it is agreed
» that the procedure is not brought to market. This allows the interested
» parties to consolidate their current fundings and make alternative business
» arrangements. In practice, this means that they step up their advertising
» push and bleed the industry dry as their clock ticks away. Drag in as many
» punters as they can to their clinics and then shut up shop. The
» conglomerate may also include wig-fitters (aka hair replacement). Price of
» a ‘delaying fee’ shared amongst many clinics etc would probably equate to
» an affordable sum and would be financially viable for the individual clinic
» provided that the potential profits incurred in the purchased ‘business
» extension of grace’ would exceed said payment. Two years would be a typical
» ‘business extension of grace’.
» Add that to the FDA wanting their greedy Gordon Brown-like share and
» demanding trials and the whole thing could take…yes…you guessed it.
» Five years.
» Yes. I’m a cynic.

I think Follica has the guts to stand up these interests and go ahead with what they’re doing. Many of them are academics who have reputations to uphold, not just money grubbers like Farjo and Washenik who are businessmen first, scientists second.


#12

» I think Follica has the guts to stand up these interests and go ahead with
» what they’re doing. Many of them are academics who have reputations to
» uphold, not just money grubbers like Farjo and Washenik who are businessmen
» first, scientists second.

Every person in the world dreams of riches,even an academic.

Besides,Dr Paul Kemp wasn’t exactly an Elvis impersonator that picked up cell therapy when he couldn’t book anymore gigs.A year ago we were all convinced that ICX had a very strong team as well & look what happened there.
Farjo’s role in ICX is hugely exaggerated by the public, he has nothing to do with the running of the company.


#13

» Add that to the FDA wanting their greedy Gordon Brown-like share and
» demanding trials and the whole thing could take…yes…you guessed it.
» Five years.
» Yes. I’m a cynic.

You understand the FDA as well as I understand English politics, which is to say, not at all. The FDA doesn’t shake down pharmacology companies. If they “demand” trials, its for good reason. Follica said it will need trials, and that will likely take longer than 5 years.


#14

» » Add that to the FDA wanting their greedy Gordon Brown-like share and
» » demanding trials and the whole thing could take…yes…you guessed it.
» » Five years.
» » Yes. I’m a cynic.
»
» You understand the FDA as well as I understand English politics, which is
» to say, not at all. The FDA doesn’t shake down pharmacology companies. If
» they “demand” trials, its for good reason. Follica said it will need
» trials, and that will likely take longer than 5 years.

Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more.


#15

» » » Add that to the FDA wanting their greedy Gordon Brown-like share and
» » » demanding trials and the whole thing could take…yes…you guessed
» it.
» » » Five years.
» » » Yes. I’m a cynic.
» »
» » You understand the FDA as well as I understand English politics, which
» is
» » to say, not at all. The FDA doesn’t shake down pharmacology companies.
» If
» » they “demand” trials, its for good reason. Follica said it will need
» » trials, and that will likely take longer than 5 years.
»
» Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more.

Good. I’m glad you’re sensible. Now why not get to posting about things like how young you look or the trim you pull.