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Is this proof Follica will not work?


#1

Once again,I am not here to start an argument.I too yearn for hm but just calling it how I see it.I know I am wasting my time posting this & I know I will be abused by every delusional tool who thinks hm is days away from being released but…

Everyone from Aderans to Dr Balzan & even ICX has been able to make new hairs grow.But the one thing that all of these companies have been unable to do is control the direction of hair growth.This has been the single greatest stumbling block for everyone.NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE DIRECTION OF HAIR GROWTH.

We have all seen follica on TV. Here is the link 2 the video 2 refresh your memory. http://youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo

Look at the FLUFF they have grown on the back of the mouse. Notice anything? The ‘hairs’ are all growing in different directions.What makes you think that they will be able to make it grow in a normal direction in a human being if it wont grow in normal directions in mice?

Follica will have the same problem as all the other potential miracle cures have had.Is the proof that this will not work right before our eyes? Are we too desperate & blind to see the writing on the wall ?

Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.Don’t bore me with your usual bullshyte that does nothing more than divert attention away from the fact that we are all f u c k ed.

BTW,where is Aderans ? Why are they so quite? Have they given up all together?


#2

I’m not so sure that growth direction has been such a problem for everyone.

It was major with cloners and manual transplanters, that’s not doubt. But I haven’t heard of direction troubles with RE-growth techniques like ICX was doing. Never when it was growing from a real living human head.

In fact I haven’t heard of any of the regrowers talking about any characteristics issues at all. (At least nothing that can’t be accounted for with the hairs being “younger” or the miniaturization being only partway reversed back to full size. Nobody has said anything about getting DIFFERENT hairs, like going from curly blond to straight brunette.)

I cound be wrong, but I believe scalp hairs’ direction characteristics are like all the other specifics - they’re a product of the DNA instructions in the skin itself.


#3

The guy on gefitinib grew a good amount of hair, in normal direction and with good density - that alone is proof enough! Looking at that picture you don’t even need the hair counts, I’d kill for density like that.

Follica is doing the same exact thing, albeit in a more controlled and efficient manner. After seeing that guy’s pic, I can’t think of a single reason why Follica will fail. The only concern I have is that the procedure creates brand new hair and I’d much prefer rejuvenating the minitaurized ones.


#4

» Once again,I am not here to start an argument.I too yearn for hm but just
» calling it how I see it.I know I am wasting my time posting this & I know I
» will be abused by every delusional tool who thinks hm is days away from
» being released but…
»
» Everyone from Aderans to Dr Balzan & even ICX has been able to make new
» hairs grow.But the one thing that all of these companies have been unable
» to do is control the direction of hair growth.This has been the single
» greatest stumbling block for everyone.NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE DIRECTION
» OF HAIR GROWTH.

»
» We have all seen follica on TV. Here is the link 2 the video 2 refresh
» your memory. http://youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo
»
» Look at the FLUFF they have grown on the back of the mouse. Notice
» anything? The ‘hairs’ are all growing in different directions.What makes
» you think that they will be able to make it grow in a normal direction in a
» human being if it wont grow in normal directions in mice?
»
» Follica will have the same problem as all the other potential miracle
» cures have had.Is the proof that this will not work right before our eyes?
» Are we too desperate & blind to see the writing on the wall ?
»
» Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.Don’t bore me with
» your usual bullshyte that does nothing more than divert attention away from
» the fact that we are all f u c k ed.
»
» BTW,where is Aderans ? Why are they so quite? Have they given up all
» together?

What’s the problem? – just gel it.


#5

My fear is that they wont be able to reproduce what happened for that man …Yes Gefitinib is a key component of the Cotsarelis Patent…but the pathways are so complex…and there are so many things that can go wrong…As for the rejuvenation, correct me if Im wrong but the Follica technology is all about de novo hair…Rejuvenation happened to be more difficult than de novo hair it seems. After all this is the biggest hurdle for ICX .


#6

» Once again,I am not here to start an argument.I too yearn for hm but just
» calling it how I see it.I know I am wasting my time posting this & I know I
» will be abused by every delusional tool who thinks hm is days away from
» being released but…

» Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.Don’t bore me with
» your usual bullshyte that does nothing more than divert attention away from
» the fact that we are all f u c k ed.
I really like when someone demands an intelligent discussion… only after accusing some of us as being delusional tools.

» Everyone from Aderans to Dr Balzan & even ICX has been able to make new
» hairs grow.But the one thing that all of these companies have been unable
» to do is control the direction of hair growth.This has been the single
» greatest stumbling block for everyone.NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE DIRECTION
» OF HAIR GROWTH.

NO ONE? The body seems to do good job directing hair growth AND the Follica process pretty-much coaxes the body to do all the hard work itself.

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#7

» Once again,I am not here to start an argument.I too yearn for hm but just
» calling it how I see it.I know I am wasting my time posting this & I know I
» will be abused by every delusional tool who thinks hm is days away from
» being released but…
»
» Everyone from Aderans to Dr Balzan & even ICX has been able to make new
» hairs grow.But the one thing that all of these companies have been unable
» to do is control the direction of hair growth.This has been the single
» greatest stumbling block for everyone.NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE DIRECTION
» OF HAIR GROWTH.

»
» We have all seen follica on TV. Here is the link 2 the video 2 refresh
» your memory. http://youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo
»
» Look at the FLUFF they have grown on the back of the mouse. Notice
» anything? The ‘hairs’ are all growing in different directions.What makes
» you think that they will be able to make it grow in a normal direction in a
» human being if it wont grow in normal directions in mice?
»
» Follica will have the same problem as all the other potential miracle
» cures have had.Is the proof that this will not work right before our eyes?
» Are we too desperate & blind to see the writing on the wall ?
»
» Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.Don’t bore me with
» your usual bullshyte that does nothing more than divert attention away from
» the fact that we are all f u c k ed.
»
» BTW,where is Aderans ? Why are they so quite? Have they given up all
» together?

YOUR MAKING HAIR DIRECTION OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME… HEY I WOULD TAKE A FUZZYYY MESSED UP DENSE SCALP THEN A BALD ONE ANY DAY…HECKK I COULD LOOK LIKE ALBERT EINSTEIN AND I WOULDNT CARE SO LONG AS I HAVE LOTS OF HAIR… AND PLUS THIERS MANY THING U CAN SO TO IT SO FIX THAT…SOMEONE ALREADY SAID GELL… OR LETTING IT GROW OUT MAKING THEM EASIER TO MANIPULATE AND COMB. PLUS I BET THEY WOULD EVEN CREATE AND GREAT SOLUTION FOR IT. BUT I DONT CONSIDER IT A PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS GETTING THE HAIR IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND BY HAIR I MEAN A DENSE SCALP LIKE IN THE TEEN YEARS…


#8

This thread is getting more heated than it needs to be.

The follicle direction issue was a perfectly valid issue for someone to bring up. Many HM methods of the past have struggled with it. And there has been very little discussion about it lately despite talking about EVERYTHING else related to the Folica project.

And even though you & I might be desperate enough to want Folica’s method even with crazy-direction hairs, not everyone is. This is exactly the kind of problem that could put off a commercial release of a HM method for years while they try to fix it for the mass market of less-desperate customers.

However, all current evidence makes growth direction seem unlikely to be a problem for the Folica deal. For once the lack of discussion is because there is so much confidence that it will be a non-issue.


#9

Good post.


#10

» This thread is getting more heated than it needs to be.
»
»
»
» The follicle direction issue was a perfectly valid issue for someone to
» bring up. Many HM methods of the past have struggled with it. And there
» has been very little discussion about it lately despite talking about
» EVERYTHING else related to the Folica project.
»
» And even though you & I might be desperate enough to want Folica’s method
» even with crazy-direction hairs, not everyone is. This is exactly the kind
» of problem that could put off a commercial release of a HM method for years
» while they try to fix it for the mass market of less-desperate customers.
»
»
»
»
» However, all current evidence makes growth direction seem unlikely to be a
» problem for the Folica deal. For once the lack of discussion is because
» there is so much confidence that it will be a non-issue.

Thank you for being the only one to make an intelligent response.It seems that you are the only one here who is smart enough to realise that if the hairs prodcued by Follicas method don’t grow the EXACT same way natural hairs grow,this product will NEVER see the light of day.
Look at the hairs on the mouse,they are all growing in different directions. If this happens in human beings Follica will scrap this product & people like myself who have already lost so much of their life due to being butchered will forever be F**KED !!!

Again,the hairs grew in different angles in the mouse (watch the video on Youtube) so HOW WILL IT WORK ON US ??
Follica has no photos showing human trials !!!


#11

Are you really JTR? Why haven’t you posted for so long? Have you read the Intercytex news from March? What do you think of Acell and Follica?


#12

Direction is secondary mission. First it has to work in mpb scalps. If this is acheived then you can be sure that there’s going to be plenty of ppl who wont be bothered by direction issues at all.

In fact, I’d say there is no reason why Follicas procedure should not grow reasonably organized hair. IF IT WORKS.


#13

» » This thread is getting more heated than it needs to be.
» »
» »
» »
» » The follicle direction issue was a perfectly valid issue for someone to
» » bring up. Many HM methods of the past have struggled with it. And
» there
» » has been very little discussion about it lately despite talking about
» » EVERYTHING else related to the Folica project.
» »
» » And even though you & I might be desperate enough to want Folica’s
» method
» » even with crazy-direction hairs, not everyone is. This is exactly the
» kind
» » of problem that could put off a commercial release of a HM method for
» years
» » while they try to fix it for the mass market of less-desperate
» customers.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » However, all current evidence makes growth direction seem unlikely to be
» a
» » problem for the Folica deal. For once the lack of discussion is
» because
» » there is so much confidence that it will be a non-issue.
»
» Thank you for being the only one to make an intelligent response.It seems
» that you are the only one here who is smart enough to realise that if the
» hairs prodcued by Follicas method don’t grow the EXACT same way natural
» hairs grow,this product will NEVER see the light of day.
» Look at the hairs on the mouse,they are all growing in different
» directions. If this happens in human beings Follica will scrap this product
» & people like myself who have already lost so much of their life due to
» being butchered will forever be F**KED !!!
»
» Again,the hairs grew in different angles in the mouse (watch the video on
» Youtube) so HOW WILL IT WORK ON US ??
» Follica has no photos showing human trials !!!

we will just have to wait for the human trials… chances are if it grew at different angles on the mouse then it will so on the human skin… so u think that they wont market it just becuase of the hair direction? to me the hair direction only effects the people who want short hair becuase u can see more of the scalp. but i bet many more people would want longer hair due to the fact that they would have more hair and it would be thicker becuase of follicas procedure :slight_smile: lol. i think inspite of hair direction they would still make it avaliable… its like hair transplant, people know that the doner hairs wont grow back and thier potential scaring involved but guess what. they still do it. that why i think they would still release it as a commercial product.


#14

In this case, I disagree that mouse trouble = human trouble.

Right now, the best example of Folica’s method that we have to look at is probably the cancer patient with the unexpected Gentifib regrowth.

This case didn’t follow the rules of the method very correctly at all. And yet the density is pretty thick. (Not the shaft sizes of the actual hairs, just the density of hairs per square centimeter.)

The hairs on the mouse skin graft example came out white, and we all got worried about it. Folica responded, “Don’t worry about it, all the hair characteristics will be governed by the skin of the patient like his original hair was at that spot.” And when the Gentifib patient’s hair grew, it came out very dark. (It actually looked like the new hairs had grown back in the man’s original color, but without the greying that was present on the rest of his surviving hair!)

The direction of the Gentifib-caused hair growth isn’t easy to judge from the pics, but I don’t think it looked abnormal for the location. I would not have thought anything was amiss about direction if I had not been told that I was looking at artificially regenerated hair.


#15

» In this case, I disagree that mouse trouble = human trouble.
»
»
»
» Right now, the best example of Folica’s method that we have to look at is
» probably the cancer patient with the unexpected Gentifib regrowth.
»
» This case didn’t follow the rules of the method very correctly at all.
» And yet the density is pretty thick. (Not the shaft sizes of the actual
» hairs, just the density of hairs per square centimeter.)
»
» The hairs on the mouse skin graft example came out white,
» and we all got worried about it. Folica responded, “Don’t worry about it,
» all the hair characteristics will be governed by the skin of the patient
» like his original hair was at that spot.” And when the Gentifib patient’s
» hair grew, it came out very dark.
(It actually looked
» like the new hairs had grown back in the man’s original color, but without
» the greying that was present on the rest of his surviving hair!)
»
» The direction of the Gentifib-caused hair growth isn’t easy to judge from
» the pics, but I don’t think it looked abnormal for the location. I would
» not have thought anything was amiss about direction if I had not been told
» that I was looking at artificially regenerated hair.

well then some say they wouldnt commercialize the product if it did grow back hairs in different angles… i stand behind they would. but others think they wont release the product and throw the whole project away!!


#16

» Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.

from follica:

any suggest about direction?

however better to have hair “in any direction” (keep in mind to be “uncombed” with a full head of hair today is a must) than nothing hair :stuck_out_tongue:

the direction is the LAST of the problems.


#17

» Direction is secondary mission. First it has to work in mpb scalps. If this
» is acheived then you can be sure that there’s going to be plenty of ppl who
» wont be bothered by direction issues at all.
»
» In fact, I’d say there is no reason why Follicas procedure should not grow
» reasonably organized hair. IF IT WORKS.

This is the gefitinib guy. Only one guy grew hair on it, but still, as a proof that it is possible its kinda valid:


#18

I recall from the distant past when I had hair I was going to part it on the opposite side to what it had been previously. At first the hair wanted to fall back to the original parting but after a few weeks it fell naturally to the new side.
IMHO hair growing in random directions is unlikely to pose a problem worth worrying about.


#19

» I recall from the distant past when I had hair I was going to part it on
» the opposite side to what it had been previously. At first the hair wanted
» to fall back to the original parting but after a few weeks it fell
» naturally to the new side.
» IMHO hair growing in random directions is unlikely to pose a problem worth
» worrying about.

I have a weird whirl in front near my right temple, no matter how much I comb the hair there, it always sticks out in the whirly direction.

but anyway, I agree that direction is not a primary issue here.


#20

» Once again,I am not here to start an argument.I too yearn for hm but just
» calling it how I see it.I know I am wasting my time posting this & I know I
» will be abused by every delusional tool who thinks hm is days away from
» being released but…
»
» Everyone from Aderans to Dr Balzan & even ICX has been able to make new
» hairs grow.But the one thing that all of these companies have been unable
» to do is control the direction of hair growth.This has been the single
» greatest stumbling block for everyone.NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE DIRECTION
» OF HAIR GROWTH.

»
» We have all seen follica on TV. Here is the link 2 the video 2 refresh
» your memory. http://youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo
»
» Look at the FLUFF they have grown on the back of the mouse. Notice
» anything? The ‘hairs’ are all growing in different directions.What makes
» you think that they will be able to make it grow in a normal direction in a
» human being if it wont grow in normal directions in mice?
»
» Follica will have the same problem as all the other potential miracle
» cures have had.Is the proof that this will not work right before our eyes?
» Are we too desperate & blind to see the writing on the wall ?
»
» Please only respond if you have an intelligent rebuttal.Don’t bore me with
» your usual bullshyte that does nothing more than divert attention away from
» the fact that we are all f u c k ed.
»
» BTW,where is Aderans ? Why are they so quite? Have they given up all
» together?
OK why cant a hair transplant of the new hair be used to help with the direction issues?