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Is a doc responsible for the grafts?


#1

A patient asked if we could account for each grafts extracted by FUE.
Indeed, we can because at least in our institute it is the doc who does the entire extraction process. He is is full charge of what is going on, nobody else.

Asking me the same question regarding strip grafts the answer remains unclear.
Oviously the doc is in charge over the entire operation, but a large portion of the procedure is carried out by a team of assistants.
These assistants are CUTTING grafts with SHARP instruments. Since this process is done my many technicians simultaniously, a doc can NEVER have full control of what exactly they are doing, not even when he tries. Any doc that denies this should be reminded that he only has 2 eyes.

Sure the techs are properly trained … but dont be ignorant to the fact that nobody is perfect, mistakes happen.
What about the new techs in training ?? Who in their right mind is going to hand over their grafts to a newbie tech. Let me assure you that transection/killing rates for a newbie tech are just mind blowing. And if you dont believe it than go and ask if you could have a try cutting grafts … it is much much more diffucult to get right … and many grafts wont survive your manipulating.

This is not a strip against FUE rant, but all above is based on facts, not fiction.

Bad FUE = bad doc
BAd strip = bad doc or bad team of assistants or both


Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
FUE only institute since 2004
Specialized in FUE megasessions


#2

» A patient asked if we could account for each grafts extracted by FUE.
» Indeed, we can because at least in our institute it is the doc who does
» the entire extraction process. He is is full charge of what is going on,
» nobody else.

The issue of accountability is very important. I am glad your doctor is responsible for the entire procedure. That is a good start. However, this is still room for improvement. A near perfect solution would be to follow what Dr. Woods has in his surgical room: real time live camera display. The patient can actually verify for himself each and every single graft that is handled and placed in the recipient site. Dr. Woods even goes a step further and provides a small calculator to the patient so that the patient himself can add up the # of grafts if he wants. That’s near fool proof when it comes to being able to verify the # of grafts that you pay for.

Dr. Woods and Dr. Woods-Campbell have these facilities in place for over a decade now. It speaks volumne about their integrity and their confidence in their work. As of now, I do not know of any other clinics in the world that offers the same to their patients.


#3

» » A patient asked if we could account for each grafts extracted by FUE.
» » Indeed, we can because at least in our institute it is the doc who does
» » the entire extraction process. He is is full charge of what is going
» on,
» » nobody else.
»
»
» The issue of accountability is very important. I am glad your doctor is
» responsible for the entire procedure. That is a good start. However, this
» is still room for improvement. A near perfect solution would be to
» follow what Dr. Woods has in his surgical room: real time live camera
» display
. The patient can actually verify for himself each and every
» single graft that is handled and placed in the recipient site. Dr. Woods
» even goes a step further and provides a small calculator to the patient so
» that the patient himself can add up the # of grafts if he wants. That’s
» near fool proof when it comes to being able to verify the # of
» grafts that you pay for.
»
» Dr. Woods and Dr. Woods-Campbell have these facilities in place for over a
» decade now. It speaks volumne about their integrity and their confidence in
» their work. As of now, I do not know of any other clinics in the world
» that offers the same to their patients.

I appreciate everything that you and bevrotti have said but the real issue is accounting for how many grafts actually grow. how many grafts are placed comes a poor second. Of cause this would be difficult to process but it would be the ultimate in accountability.

To Bevrotti, Arguable a team of specialist individuals are better than a single doc playing all roles. A big concern for all of us is that we do not know which techs are new and which are good. The first absolute demand I would have of strip is that no techs less than 6 months in come near my follicles:-)


#4

» To Bevrotti, Arguable a team of specialist individuals are better than a
» single doc playing all roles. A big concern for all of us is that we do
» not know which techs are new and which are good. The first absolute demand
» I would have of strip is that no techs less than 6 months in come near my
» follicles:-)

What about if the techs have more than 6 months experience but they are getting paid like $10 an hour to do this absolute bored out of your skull kind of work, would you still trust your follicles with them? Chances are that they are rushing to get the job done so that they can work the 2nd job at seven eleven to supplement their income :slight_smile:


#5

» » To Bevrotti, Arguable a team of specialist individuals are better than a
» » single doc playing all roles. A big concern for all of us is that we do
» » not know which techs are new and which are good. The first absolute
» demand
» » I would have of strip is that no techs less than 6 months in come near
» my
» » follicles:-)
»
» What about if the techs have more than 6 months experience but they are
» getting paid like $10 an hour to do this absolute bored out of your skull
» kind of work, would you still trust your follicles with them? Chances are
» that they are rushing to get the job done so that they can work the 2nd job
» at seven eleven to supplement their income :slight_smile:

Oh bloody hell, you just can’t trust anyone anymore.:slight_smile:


#6

In our opinion patients are usually are better at ease when not confronted with real life time surgery images. If you want to see real time FUE video just check out youtube, there are plenty.
Heck, some guys stomage turns when they see their own grafts in a dish.

Can you imagine if you would have real life images when cutting out your own strip ???


Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
FUE only institute since 2004
Specialized in FUE megasessions


#7

» In our opinion patients are usually are better at ease when not confronted
» with real life time surgery images. If you want to see real time FUE
» video just check out youtube, there are plenty.
» Heck, some guys stomage turns when they see their own grafts in a dish.
»
» Can you imagine if you would have real life images when cutting out your
» own strip ???
»

OK! seeing your own strip being taken out may not be most people’s cup of tea.
But most patients do like to see their grafts as well as appreciate being shown video of their FUSE/BHT extractions and placement of grafts.
We make it a point to show the graft placementrs with pictures as well as video.