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I just checked Intercytex’s website. It appears that they have updated their website and have Removed TRC FAQs altogether! That was the only portion of their website that made reference to “earliest commercialization in 2010”. The only thing their website says now about TRC is that they are looking for a partner to continue the next clinical phase.
nathan, you there buddy??
Did I read that correctly from their site? phase 2 will be concluded this month?
"ICX-TRC clinical and commercial development
Phase I clinical trials (safety) have been completed in seven volunteers at a single UK transplant centre. No safety issues have arisen and five out of seven patients have shown increased hair numbers.
The treatment phase of a Phase II trial, being conducted by Dr Bessam Farjo in Manchester, to optimise the delivery of the DP cells, has been completed.
In this trial, hair counts were obtained by shaving and photographing a small section of scalp, injecting it and then applying a specialised image analysis system to provide a total hair count. Two sub-groups were each injected with autologous DP cells using different delivery techniques. The scalps of one of the sub-groups were stimulated at the time of delivery.
At 24 weeks the results were as follows:
· Of the sub-group of five subjects without stimulation of the scalp, three or 60% showed an increase in hair count
· Of the sub-group of nine subjects with scalp stimulation, eight or 89% showed an increase in hair count.
These data are consistent with the earlier data reported in September 2007 and the hypothesis that new hair production is improved by pre-stimulation of the scalp, leading to an interaction between the injected cells and the resident hair producing cells. At the end of the first quarter of 2009, when the trial has concluded, photographic data will be analysed from a much larger area of treated scalp on all subjects at 12 months. Currently, three subjects have been lost to follow up.
Intercytex is exploring partnering opportunities to continue the next clinical phase of development of ICX-TRC."
» I just checked Intercytex’s website. It appears that they have updated
» their website and have Removed TRC FAQs altogether! That was the
» only portion of their website that made reference to “earliest
» commercialization in 2010”. The only thing their website says now about TRC
» is that they are looking for a partner to continue the next clinical
» phase.
»
» nathan, you there buddy??
No mention of protohair? I think that is quite promising (if it works, that is)
I wasn’t talking about phase-II trial, we all know it would be concluded this month. I was referring to small-scale commercialization, what nathan has been telling us for few years now. On their website they used to say earliest commercialization by 2010, now even that is gone!
» I don’t get it. It failed. Move on to Follica and (hopefully) Histogen.
How do you know they failed,You got inside info.Nothing as been released stating that.
Next week we will all have a better idea hopefully,once they have released their March update.
If they fail,more or likely they all will,one after the other,or another 5 years.
Aderans are the most likely to succeed,if Intercytex fail in my eyes.
Roll on HM!
They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to judge things.
Trichocyte is kaput! do you get it?? now lets move on.
» » I don’t get it. It failed. Move on to Follica and (hopefully)
» Histogen.
»
» How do you know they failed,You got inside info.Nothing as been released
» stating that.
»
» Next week we will all have a better idea hopefully,once they have released
» their March update.
»
» If they fail,more or likely they all will,one after the other,or another 5
» years.
»
» Aderans are the most likely to succeed,if Intercytex fail in my eyes.
»
» Roll on HM!
» They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
»
» You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to
» judge things.
»
» Trichocyte is kaput! do you get it?? now lets move on.
Exactly. One needs only to look at their stock price to see the completeness of their failure. It didn’t work. On to Follica, Histogen and Aderans. There’s enough on the horizon - there’s no reason to keep looking at the past.
» » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» »
» » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to
» » judge things.
» »
» » Trichocyte is kaput! do you get it?? now lets move on.
»
» Exactly. One needs only to look at their stock price to see the
» completeness of their failure. It didn’t work. On to Follica, Histogen
» and Aderans. There’s enough on the horizon - there’s no reason to keep
» looking at the past.
Global credit crunch,they ran out of money and ended up in sh*t street.
If and when,is more or likely along way off,there will more or likely be a lot more failures to come.Aderans seem to be the only one running proper trials,with large number of trialist,at present,unless I missed something.
» » » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» » »
» » » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability
» to
» » » judge things.
» » »
» » » Trichocyte is kaput! do you get it?? now lets move on.
» »
» » Exactly. One needs only to look at their stock price to see the
» » completeness of their failure. It didn’t work. On to Follica,
» Histogen
» » and Aderans. There’s enough on the horizon - there’s no reason to keep
» » looking at the past.
»
» Global credit crunch,they ran out of money and ended up in sh*t street.
»
» If and when,is more or likely along way off,there will more or likely be a
» lot more failures to come.Aderans seem to be the only one running proper
» trials,with large number of trialist,at present,unless I missed something.
Wha? What does credit have to do with the success of their product? Success = investment. No success = no investment. They have NO SUCCESSFUL PRODUCTS. End of story.
» They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
»
» You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to
» judge things.
You are retarded! How can you compare science behind PRO with TRC? Also, the product has NOT failed, the problem is getting consistency. Which basically means is that some people get good regrowth & other don’t. So it’s definitely Not a failure, if anything it’s better than the current alternatives because you’d get permanent hairs Without sideeffects!
Now stop with your nonsensical BS! The reason I started this thread was to update people regarding Intercytex, because now I strongly believe it won’t be launched without a phase-III, and that’ll be sometime in 2012. However, whenever it’s launched, I’d definitely give it a shot.
» » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» »
» » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to
» » judge things.
»
» You are retarded! How can you compare science behind PRO with TRC? Also,
» the product has NOT failed, the problem is getting consistency. Which
» basically means is that some people get good regrowth & other don’t. So
» it’s definitely Not a failure, if anything it’s better than the current
» alternatives because you’d get permanent hairs Without sideeffects!
»
» Now stop with your nonsensical BS! The reason I started this thread was to
» update people regarding Intercytex, because now I strongly believe it won’t
» be launched without a phase-III, and that’ll be sometime in 2012. However,
» whenever it’s launched, I’d definitely give it a shot.
Intercytex Preliminary Results are being released this month.I think they altered date,to show March only with no date on their website.Last years date was the 18th,so hopefully by that it will be sometime next week.
If there is not much news then,then perhaps it is really time to move on.
Upto date they haven’t failed yet.
As for the credit crunch not effecting good businesses.I think you will find most financial institutes,banks,etc are holding back even when their shown a good business deal - They are all in trouble.scared,perhaps.Open your eyes,watch the news,read a paper,might help
» I just checked Intercytex’s website. It appears that they have updated
» their website and have Removed TRC FAQs altogether! That was the
» only portion of their website that made reference to “earliest
» commercialization in 2010”. The only thing their website says now about TRC
» is that they are looking for a partner to continue the next clinical
» phase.
»
» nathan, you there buddy??
ICX-TRC FAQ link no mention of 2010 release see link
http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/aesthetic/icxtrc/faqsicxtrc/
» » I don’t get it. It failed. Move on to Follica and (hopefully)
» Histogen.
»
» How do you know they failed,You got inside info.Nothing as been released
» stating that.
»
» Next week we will all have a better idea hopefully,once they have released
» their March update.
»
» If they fail,more or likely they all will,one after the other,or another 5
» years.
»
» Aderans are the most likely to succeed,if Intercytex fail in my eyes.
»
» Roll on HM!
He’s a self centered arrogant american who thinks that only american companies like Aderans and Histogen can come up with hair multiplication, that’s why he bad mouth intercytex even before they conclude their trial.
ICX-PRO’S failure has nothing to do with the credit crunch.
They got no results in phase III. The trials were done, but no results.
» » » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» » »
» » » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability
» to
» » » judge things.
» » »
» » » Trichocyte is kaput! do you get it?? now lets move on.
» »
» » Exactly. One needs only to look at their stock price to see the
» » completeness of their failure. It didn’t work. On to Follica,
» Histogen
» » and Aderans. There’s enough on the horizon - there’s no reason to keep
» » looking at the past.
»
» Global credit crunch,they ran out of money and ended up in sh*t street.
»
» If and when,is more or likely along way off,there will more or likely be a
» lot more failures to come.Aderans seem to be the only one running proper
» trials,with large number of trialist,at present,unless I missed something.
» » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» »
» » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability to
» » judge things.
»
» You are retarded! How can you compare science behind PRO with TRC? Also,
» the product has NOT failed, the problem is getting consistency. Which
» basically means is that some people get good regrowth & other don’t. So
» it’s definitely Not a failure, if anything it’s better than the current
» alternatives because you’d get permanent hairs Without sideeffects!
»
» Now stop with your nonsensical BS! The reason I started this thread was to
» update people regarding Intercytex, because now I strongly believe it won’t
» be launched without a phase-III, and that’ll be sometime in 2012. However,
» whenever it’s launched, I’d definitely give it a shot.
I have explained it to you many times. PRO and TRC are very much related technology. And TRC is much more difficult, because it requires good cosmetic effect, while PRO doesn’t matter much, because it is just for old people with terrible chronic wounds.
Now keep telling me words like the child you are.
» Intercytex Preliminary Results are being released this month.I think they
» altered date,to show March only with no date on their website.Last years
» date was the 18th,so hopefully by that it will be sometime next week.
Wait a second, I read that page on their site, it just says the trial will be completed after 1st quarter 2009, they never say anything about releasing the results or the data. It just says it will be completed. are we reading too much into this?
ICX simply does not warrant continued attention from us like we give Folica or Aderans. Not anymore.
If an unknown company showed up today with only the evidence that Folica has produced so far, then we would not be putting any signifincant faith in them.
» » » They failed even in the product they were so confident and where they
» » » dedicated truckloads of money, trialists and effort: ICX-PRO.
» » » Just imagine ICX-TRC!!! where they barely started to research.
» » »
» » » You guys are pathetic believers. you don’t have a minimum of ability
» to
» » » judge things.
» »
» » You are retarded! How can you compare science behind PRO with TRC?
» Also,
» » the product has NOT failed, the problem is getting consistency. Which
» » basically means is that some people get good regrowth & other don’t. So
» » it’s definitely Not a failure, if anything it’s better than the current
» » alternatives because you’d get permanent hairs Without sideeffects!
» »
» » Now stop with your nonsensical BS! The reason I started this thread was
» to
» » update people regarding Intercytex, because now I strongly believe it
» won’t
» » be launched without a phase-III, and that’ll be sometime in 2012.
» However,
» » whenever it’s launched, I’d definitely give it a shot.
»
» Intercytex Preliminary Results are being released this month.I think they
» altered date,to show March only with no date on their website.Last years
» date was the 18th,so hopefully by that it will be sometime next week.
»
» If there is not much news then,then perhaps it is really time to move on.
»
» Upto date they haven’t failed yet.
»
» As for the credit crunch not effecting good businesses.I think you will
» find most financial institutes,banks,etc are holding back even when their
» shown a good business deal - They are all in trouble.scared,perhaps.Open
» your eyes,watch the news,read a paper,might help
The credit crisis is a huge factor, these days banks won’t even consider giving out mortgages , not to mention investing in risky biotech research, I think a better bet is Aderans since their research can be financed by Bosley’s hair transplant sales, Intercytex is not so lucky given that it has to rely on third parties investment or financing, big difference in their financial picture.
» since their research can be financed by
» Bosley’s hair transplant sales
Don’t forget the Aderans wigs! 