I’m actually in communication with Histogen regarding investor opportunities (for anyone with a few dollars to spare). Eileen told me they’re looking into creating a pool which would allow individuals to invest in the Series A at $1/share without a minimum investment amount. I’ll keep everyone posted when I have more info.
» I’m actually in communication with Histogen regarding investor
» opportunities (for anyone with a few dollars to spare). Eileen told me
» they’re looking into creating a pool which would allow individuals to
» invest in the Series A at $1/share without a minimum investment amount.
» I’ll keep everyone posted when I have more info.
»
» In the mean time Eileen asked me to share this video. This company NEEDS
» to be saved more than GM… their technology holds the ability to cure
» cancer, Parkinson’s, and yes - even hairloss.
» http://www.sandiego6.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?articleID=586361
Thanks for putting that video up rev, You should put this information on as many sites as you can.
» I only post here, and xconomy, but I would appreciate if you guys helped me
» spread the word on other forums.
»
» » Thanks for putting that video up rev, You should put this information
» on
» » as many sites as you can.
Well done Rev thanx for the info buddy.we ll do our part…
» I’m actually in communication with Histogen regarding investor
» opportunities (for anyone with a few dollars to spare). Eileen told me
» they’re looking into creating a pool which would allow individuals to
» invest in the Series A at $1/share without a minimum investment amount.
» I’ll keep everyone posted when I have more info.
»
» In the mean time Eileen asked me to share this video. This company NEEDS
» to be saved more than GM… their technology holds the ability to cure
» cancer, Parkinson’s, and yes - even hairloss.
» http://www.sandiego6.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?articleID=586361
Keep us posted, sounds like something I’d consider.
The video said they are going to court Mar 16th, I say let’s wait and see what happens with the lawsuit before anyone donates any money, we might be sinking our money into a black hole if the lawsuit is not in Histogen’s favor.
Histogen isn’t set-up for shares yet, and I don’t imagine they will be before the court date. I’ll let you guys know when I hear something new… in the mean time let’s start spreading the word.
» The video said they are going to court Mar 16th, I say let’s wait and see
» what happens with the lawsuit before anyone donates any money, we might be
» sinking our money into a black hole if the lawsuit is not in Histogen’s
» favor.
you are wasting your money. even if it works (a big if) there is little chance that it is going to make it to market before they run out of money. histogens product uses embryonic stem cells which have yet to approved by the fda. you have to believe that if histogen is going to be the first embryonic stem cell therapy the fda is going to require them to present a TON of data with LARGE, LONG safety trials.
Also a kid in isreal used embryonic stem cells to treat some disease and now he has cancer. So this is going to get a TON of scrutiny.
I wouldn’t use it and wouldn’t want to rub it on my head.
» you are wasting your money. even if it works (a big if) there is little
» chance that it is going to make it to market before they run out of money.
» histogens product uses embryonic stem cells which have yet to approved by
» the fda. you have to believe that if histogen is going to be the first
» embryonic stem cell therapy the fda is going to require them to present a
» TON of data with LARGE, LONG safety trials.
»
» Also a kid in isreal used embryonic stem cells to treat some disease and
» now he has cancer. So this is going to get a TON of scrutiny.
»
» I wouldn’t use it and wouldn’t want to rub it on my head.
From Histogens site,
About Histogen
Histogen, launched in 2007, seeks to redefine regenerative medicine by developing a series of high value products that do not contain embryonic stem cells or animal components. Through Histogen’s proprietary bioreactors that mimic the embryonic environment, newborn fibroblasts are encouraged to naturally produce the vital proteins and growth factors from which the Company has developed its rich product portfolio. Histogen has two product families - ExceltrixTM, Histogen’s human Extracellular Matrix (ECM) and ReGenica, Histogen’s proprietary liquid formula.
The actual first embryonic stem cell trial is being held by a company called Geron who are looking for a treatment for spinal injury.
You are right about fetal (Not embryonic) stem cells causing cancerous tumors in some cases, this is because the injected cells grow out of control.
Here is an article about the case you are talking about
"Then he was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2005. That tumor, it turns out, grew out of the stem cells, obtained from at least two aborted fetuses, used in his brain.
The tumor was benign, doctors safely removed it, and it has gradually been growing back since the surgery. But this is the first-known case of a brain tumor caused by a brain stem cell therapy, according to the report—a phenomenon scientists have predicted in the pages of Scientific American and elsewhere. The theory is that because these stem cells are fetal cells, they are designed to proliferate and give rise to new tissue, which means they have the potential to produce tumors. The case, write the authors of this week’s case study, should serve as a warning that more research is needed to gauge the safety of these novel therapies.
Other stem cell experts echo their concerns and worry that scientists don’t yet understand exactly how stem cells used in such treatments behave once inside the body. Treating neurological disorders with stem cells from fetal brains is a “great scientific goal to pursue,” but there is simply not enough evidence from animal studies, let alone human studies, to prove it is safe or effective for treating these diseases in children, says Sean Savitz, a neurologist at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston.
Savitz has just begun enrolling patients in a study on treating adult stroke victims with their own—adult—stem cells. The intent of the boy’s treatment must have been to use these fetal stem cells to regenerate tissue lost in certain areas of the brain, Savitz speculates, but he adds, “we don’t have a full understanding of how [brainlike] stem cells can generate different cells in the brain.”
Savitz says that the stem cells used in his trial are not likely to cause cancer because they are adult cells taken from bone marrow that die once they have accomplished their mission of repairing brain tissue.
Again, it was FETAL stem cells NOT EMBRYONIC that caused the tumor, it is still unknown if embryonic stem cells can cause cancer but they have been shown to KILL cancer cells.
Here is an interesting recent article on stem cells and cancer,
Well aside from you being grossly misinformed on all accounts, it’s my money to waste.
» you are wasting your money. even if it works (a big if) there is little
» chance that it is going to make it to market before they run out of money.
» histogens product uses embryonic stem cells which have yet to approved by
» the fda. you have to believe that if histogen is going to be the first
» embryonic stem cell therapy the fda is going to require them to present a
» TON of data with LARGE, LONG safety trials.
»
» Also a kid in isreal used embryonic stem cells to treat some disease and
» now he has cancer. So this is going to get a TON of scrutiny.
»
» I wouldn’t use it and wouldn’t want to rub it on my head.
Good job by the way rev, I’d definitely think about investing if they survive their court case.
In my opinion if they do survive it, inverstors will come flooding back.
I’m sure I read somewhere recently that new investors are already taking an interest.
they need to seek venture capital or go public for big $$$$, a hundred bucks here and there from ordinary folks like us ain’t going to make any difference,
» they need to seek venture capital or go public for big $$$$, a hundred
» bucks here and there from ordinary folks like us ain’t going to make any
» difference,
You forget there’s allot of ‘ordinary folks like us’ out there.
» They need FDA approval ?
Yes (they all do - even Follica), and Histogen has a long way to go; however, Regenica is shaping up to be a darn good product… we’re talking about something that won’t require a biopsy and a second visit to the clinic for injections like Intercytex, and we’re talking about something that has the potential of quick commercial penetration (like botox for example - which means practically anyone can offer this product).
rev, did the person say anything about ReGenica’s (for skin) launch? It was supposed to be launched in a month or two, how has lawsuit affected it’s launch?
» you are wasting your money. even if it works (a big if) there is little
» chance that it is going to make it to market before they run out of money.
» histogens product uses embryonic stem cells which have yet to approved by
» the fda. you have to believe that if histogen is going to be the first
» embryonic stem cell therapy the fda is going to require them to present a
» TON of data with LARGE, LONG safety trials.
»
» Also a kid in isreal used embryonic stem cells to treat some disease and
» now he has cancer. So this is going to get a TON of scrutiny.
»
» I wouldn’t use it and wouldn’t want to rub it on my head.
The whole point of their extracellular matrix is that it is NOT based on embryonic stem cells, but mimicked adult stem cells, not even directly from adult stem cells. Which is why it is such a breakthrough. I know, I have seen many documents from Eileen, and I have had a long conversation with her.
Where did you get this information? Or are you from the company suing her and you want to tank the org so you can succeed?
» » you are wasting your money. even if it works (a big if) there is little
» » chance that it is going to make it to market before they run out of
» money.
» » histogens product uses embryonic stem cells which have yet to approved
» by
» » the fda. you have to believe that if histogen is going to be the first
» » embryonic stem cell therapy the fda is going to require them to present
» a
» » TON of data with LARGE, LONG safety trials.
» »
» » Also a kid in isreal used embryonic stem cells to treat some disease
» and
» » now he has cancer. So this is going to get a TON of scrutiny.
» »
» » I wouldn’t use it and wouldn’t want to rub it on my head.
»
»
» From Histogens site,
»
» About Histogen
»
» Histogen, launched in 2007, seeks to redefine regenerative medicine by
» developing a series of high value products that do not contain embryonic
» stem cells or animal components. Through Histogen’s proprietary
» bioreactors that mimic the embryonic environment, newborn
» fibroblasts are encouraged to naturally produce the vital proteins and
» growth factors from which the Company has developed its rich product
» portfolio. Histogen has two product families - ExceltrixTM, Histogen’s
» human Extracellular Matrix (ECM) and ReGenica, Histogen’s proprietary
» liquid formula.
»
» The actual first embryonic stem cell trial is being held by a company
» called Geron who are looking for a treatment for spinal injury.
»
» FDA approves human embryonic stem cell study - CNN.com
»
» You are right about fetal (Not embryonic) stem cells causing
» cancerous tumors in some cases, this is because the injected cells
» grow out of control.
» Here is an article about the case you are talking about
»
» http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=embryonic-stem-cells-cause-cancer-i-2009-02-19
»
»
» "Then he was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2005. That tumor, it turns
» out, grew out of the stem cells, obtained from at least two aborted
» fetuses, used in his brain.
»
» The tumor was benign, doctors safely removed it, and it has gradually been
» growing back since the surgery. But this is the first-known case of a brain
» tumor caused by a brain stem cell therapy, according to the report—a
» phenomenon scientists have predicted in the pages of Scientific American
» and elsewhere. The theory is that because these stem cells are fetal cells,
» they are designed to proliferate and give rise to new tissue, which means
» they have the potential to produce tumors. The case, write the authors of
» this week’s case study, should serve as a warning that more research is
» needed to gauge the safety of these novel therapies.
» Other stem cell experts echo their concerns and worry that scientists
» don’t yet understand exactly how stem cells used in such treatments behave
» once inside the body. Treating neurological disorders with stem cells from
» fetal brains is a “great scientific goal to pursue,” but there is simply
» not enough evidence from animal studies, let alone human studies, to prove
» it is safe or effective for treating these diseases in children, says Sean
» Savitz, a neurologist at the University of Texas Medical School at
» Houston.
»
» Savitz has just begun enrolling patients in a study on treating adult
» stroke victims with their own—adult—stem cells. The intent of the
» boy’s treatment must have been to use these fetal stem cells to regenerate
» tissue lost in certain areas of the brain, Savitz speculates, but he adds,
» “we don’t have a full understanding of how [brainlike] stem cells can
» generate different cells in the brain.”
»
» Savitz says that the stem cells used in his trial are not likely to
» cause cancer because they are adult cells taken from bone marrow that die
» once they have accomplished their mission of repairing brain tissue.
»
» Again, it was FETAL stem cells NOT EMBRYONIC that caused the tumor, it is
» still unknown if embryonic stem cells can cause cancer but they have been
» shown to KILL cancer cells.
»
» Here is an interesting recent article on stem cells and cancer,
» Reuters | Breaking International News & Views
Here we go, someone who has done his research and not just talking out of his *ss. Thank you
» » they need to seek venture capital or go public for big $$$$, a hundred
» » bucks here and there from ordinary folks like us ain’t going to make
» any
» » difference,
»
» You forget there’s allot of ‘ordinary folks like us’ out there.
Yep, agreed! I know they need capital in this bad market, but I do believe her when she says she’d prefer people like us investing in small amounts but many of us, than one large investor whose stake is purely risk taking and based on no personal stake. We care, because the product affects us, and we are passionate about it. Obviously. I was going to invest, but I have other surgery I need to do for something more important to my well being. I really want to help them out. So after that, and after the court case, I will reanalyze my cash position and help them as much as possible I believe she knows whats shes doing, and I believe they really have something thats going to revolutionize alot of healthcare treatment in general besides alopecia research. I hope alot of US do the same and help make Histogen successful in helping US.
» rev, did the person say anything about ReGenica’s (for skin) launch? It was
» supposed to be launched in a month or two, how has lawsuit affected it’s
» launch?
Rev? What I remember is them saying March 6th…so it would have been yesterday and before the lawsuit…no idea if it did though. This is supposed to help their cash position some if it markets well.
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