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So on Cole’s website it says buried in a paragraph:

"In the future, it is possible that ECM could be used to re-grow extracted hair, potentially providing patients with an unlimited donor supply. "

ECM being Acell.

Not looking to have a pop Willy but in the ‘future’ my Uncle might turn into my Aunt :smiley:

Seriously, I don’t think Dr Cole is claiming any results of significance with Acell when it comes to growing hair - it wouldn’t surprise me if that was a “Copy & Paste” job by his Web Designer from another site.

think whatever you want about Alan Spievak death. You may think, if you want, that it was Cook Biotech, that poisoned him, or the aliens that sent “death waves” to cause his cancer.
But the truth is that he claimed that the pixie dust could cure bladder cancer, and he died precisely of bladder cancer. And his brother Lee says that no doctor wanted to treat him with his own technology. Oooohhh, sorry but I don’t believe these tales for children. Iron_Man, how old are you? :wink:
They are playing the victims, and in the meantime they are lying like crazy (eg, finger story).

Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in Acell. And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine, matrix technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell specifically. Because I have just made a google search for AFIRM+Acell, and I have got no pertinent results.

» Thank’s Spanish Dude for clarifying some things.
» -----------
» » He stated that they have been in court battling over patent
» infringements » over the past four years which has halted their
» progress but they have » won the legal issues are are moving forward.
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-2810-page-0-order-last_answer-category-0.html
»

» -----------
» That means between 2003 and 2007, ACell has been unable to progress with
» their products. That could maybe one reason why Alan Spievack (founder)
» died in 2008 – who knows. That would ironically mean that he won the legal
» issue in court, but actually Cook Biotech won the battle 2 years later
» outside the court, because Alan Spievack has been unable to progress with
» the cure for his personally battle …
»
» » Also, at that time, I was sold the idea that Acell was a more
» » sophisticated version of Cook Biotech products.
»
» Ah, that could be the reason why the US Pentagon still believe in ACell’s
» pixie dust …

willy i know you have a strip scar do you have any plans on having it revised with the matistem, i know its hard to acknowledge if there has been any improvement in the pics provided so far, but according to cooley he has tried it on a 100 patients so far, hopefully he will release some b4 and after pics so we can more accurately assess results, i also think this would be a huge advantage if it worked and more people would opt for transplants if this would at least eliminate any scarring, im hoping to have a revision but will wait to see defintive proof of acells success b4 i contact cooley

» think whatever you want about Alan Spievak death. You may think, if you
» want, that it was Cook Biotech, that poisoned him, or the aliens that sent
» “death waves” to cause his cancer.
» But the truth is that he claimed that the pixie dust could cure bladder
» cancer, and he died precisely of bladder cancer. And his brother Lee says
» that no doctor wanted to treat him with his own technology. Oooohhh, sorry
» but I don’t believe these tales for children. Iron_Man, how old are you?
» :wink:
» They are playing the victims, and in the meantime they are lying like
» crazy (eg, finger story).
»
» Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in Acell.
» And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine, matrix
» technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» specifically. Because I have just made a google search for AFIRM+Acell, and
» I have got no pertinent results.
»
»
»
» » Thank’s Spanish Dude for clarifying some things.
» » -----------
» » » He stated that they have been in court battling over patent
» » infringements » over the past four years which has halted their
» » progress but they have » won the legal issues are are moving forward.
» » »
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-2810-page-0-order-last_answer-category-0.html
» »

» » -----------
» » That means between 2003 and 2007, ACell has been unable to progress
» with
» » their products. That could maybe one reason why Alan Spievack (founder)
» » died in 2008 – who knows. That would ironically mean that he won the
» legal
» » issue in court, but actually Cook Biotech won the battle 2 years later
» » outside the court, because Alan Spievack has been unable to progress
» with
» » the cure for his personally battle …
» »
» » » Also, at that time, I was sold the idea that Acell was a more
» » » sophisticated version of Cook Biotech products.
» »
» » Ah, that could be the reason why the US Pentagon still believe in
» ACell’s
» » pixie dust …

Here’s the deal with Acell

Someone posted something about Acell.

I looked at the links and became interested in this product. I thought it had the POTENTIAL to regenerate removed donor tissue and hair (because I saw the vet. pics which did so)

I called the company and ran this idea by them. They said that people had brought this up before (but focused on regenerating the hair in the recipient area). They stated that they didn’t know “how deep” to go (because of the hormones affecting this region) so they didn’t think that it would help with hair loss. When I stated that I thought it would be better to regenerate removed donor tissue (and hair) they said “that just might work”. Over several conversations with them (on the phone) they seemed to be fairly confident that it would regenerate removed donor tissue and hair.

I then posted about this here because I thought it might be of some interest to some of the members. I put together a letter to send to the HT docs and compiled a list of e-mail addresses (with the help of some forum members).

I sent the letter to about 60 docs and a few showed interest. One in particular (doc j) used the product and was transparent with his results. His procedure failed, but I personally believe he made some mistakes due to the fact that it scabbed up (and it is not supposed to).

I believed it must not work due to the fact that I didn’t hear anything about it and if it worked…we would have heard something.

I didn’t hear anything about it until it was recently posted on this site that some other docs are using it.

I have no idea if it works or not. Personally, I’ve lost faith in it also. I think that the docs must know if it works by now and since we’ve heard nothing confirming that …it’s not a good sign.

Reguardless, since we will probably have 10 years or so until HM (at least that’s what most of you are saying), I’m still interested in reading (and posting) about it.

Some say I was paid promote Acell…I wish that were true. I did it because I believed it had a chance of regenerating donor tissue and hair and I just want my f&%#ing hair back! Believe whatever you want, and I don’t have the time or motivation to back and forth about this.

As far as Iron Man goes…I really have no idea what his deal is. He’s very hard to understand. I can’t tell if he supports Acell or is against it. Nor do I care. I personally believe he is here for attention (that’s pathetic) and probably posted under some other name before…and maybe still does.

Anyways, I’m still glad some docs are using it. I’m curious to see what (if any results ) they get. It costs me nothing to follow it (and as far as I know, it doesn’t cost anyone here anything to follow (or not follow it)).

» willy i know you have a strip scar do you have any plans on having it
» revised with the matistem, i know its hard to acknowledge if there has been
» any improvement in the pics provided so far, but according to cooley he has
» tried it on a 100 patients so far, hopefully he will release some b4 and
» after pics so we can more accurately assess results, i also think this
» would be a huge advantage if it worked and more people would opt for
» transplants if this would at least eliminate any scarring, im hoping to
» have a revision but will wait to see defintive proof of acells success b4 i
» contact cooley

I have no plans at this point. My scar doesn’t bother me at all. If there was a definate way to eliminate it (without affecting the hair around it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first. If I were you, I would definately want to see proof too!

» Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in Acell.
» And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine, matrix
» technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» specifically. Because I have just made a google search for AFIRM+Acell, and
» I have got no pertinent results.

The US military, Pentagon, CIA, FBI, Iron Man, KGB, NSA etc
nicknamed ACell’s big bladder powder just “Pixie Dust”.

So try e.g. [ pixie dust military ] and normally you will get tons of information.

» » Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in
» Acell
.
» » And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine,
» matrix
» » technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» » specifically. Because I have just made a google
» search
for AFIRM+Acell, and
» » I have got no pertinent results.
»
» The US military, Pentagon, CIA, FBI, Iron Man, KGB, NSA etc
» nicknamed ACell’s big bladder powder just “Pixie Dust”.
»
» So try e.g. [ pixie dust military ] and normally you
» will get tons of information.

:slight_smile: You really can stretch things up and I never know is it a stretch of your imagination or VERY elastic analogies and arguments. Look man, many clouds in the sky look like castles but try to get an investor to give you mortgage on one.The pursuit to get someone to invest in an idea does not consist in ignoring facts.

» Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in Acell.
» And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine, matrix
» technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» specifically. Because I have just made a google search for AFIRM+Acell, and
» I have got no pertinent results.
»

Iron Man is probably referring to the recent edition of 60 minutes which was talking to people in the military about the Pixie dust they were using in regenerative medicine. Here’s a link to the episode of 60 minutes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5975132n

It’s also mentioned on the Acell site on the front page.

http://www.acell.com/

Hope that helps.

» » Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in Acell.
» » And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine,
» matrix
» » technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» » specifically. Because I have just made a google search for AFIRM+Acell,
» and
» » I have got no pertinent results.
» »
»
» Iron Man is probably referring to the recent edition of 60 minutes which
» was talking to people in the military about the Pixie dust they were using
» in regenerative medicine. Here’s a link to the episode of 60 minutes.
»
» http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5975132n
»
» It’s also mentioned on the Acell site on the front page.
»
» http://www.acell.com/
»
» Hope that helps.

I don’t have dislike for this kind of invention.On the contrary,if I have any prejudice in this debate,it is prejudice FOR this kind of cure for scarred people ,like my self.But where is the F…G proof?

I one supporting any product it does not mean that he is paid by them. I am sure that he have rich experience of this product and that is why he is advocating acell. Yes, he can give us a proff of that.
We should not mistreat him.
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» » » Tell me where the US Pentagon believes in Acell. Specifically in
» Acell.
» » » And don’t tell me that they are investing in regenerative medicine,
» » matrix
» » » technology, etc. I want you to tell me if they are investing in Acell
» » » specifically. Because I have just made a google search for
» AFIRM+Acell,
» » and
» » » I have got no pertinent results.
» » »
» »
» » Iron Man is probably referring to the recent edition of 60 minutes
» which
» » was talking to people in the military about the Pixie dust they were
» using
» » in regenerative medicine. Here’s a link to the episode of 60 minutes.
» »
» » http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5975132n
» »
» » It’s also mentioned on the Acell site on the front page.
» »
» » http://www.acell.com/
» »
» » Hope that helps.
»
» I don’t have dislike for this kind of invention.On the contrary,if I have
» any prejudice in this debate,it is prejudice FOR this kind of cure for
» scarred people ,like my self.But where is the F…G proof?

» it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first. If I
» were you, I would definately want to see proof too!

And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing Acell again like you did the first time around.

» » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first. If
» I
» » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
»
» And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing Acell again
» like you did the first time around.

And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like you did the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted the docs to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m not sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you want, but at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here EVERY DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished here?

» » » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first.
» If
» » I
» » » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
» »
» » And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing Acell
» again
» » like you did the first time around.
»
» And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like you did
» the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted the docs
» to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m not
» sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you want, but
» at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here EVERY
» DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished here?

Stalking you? I can hardly avoid you - you’re in every other thread, posting the same old bullsht. You were ran off the board the last time for pushing this nonsense, and here you’ve returned, pushing it again, without any proof or data, just like last time.

As for what I do? I tell newbies about the only PROVEN protocols for hair loss, the same protocol that has helped me keep my hair for over a decade. I talk about REAL trials that have REAL data that can be analyzed.

Same old Lil’Willy - got your panties in a bunch the second those “doctors” claimed Acell grew hair. Frothing at the mouth, you ran back to the forum, ready to bask in the glory of your triumph. Only there wasn’t any victory, just the same old crow you had to eat last time. How’s it taste the second time around?

» » » » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first.
» » If
» » » I
» » » » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
» » »
» » » And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing Acell
» » again
» » » like you did the first time around.
» »
» » And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like you
» did
» » the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted the
» docs
» » to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m not
» » sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you want,
» but
» » at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here
» EVERY
» » DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished
» here?
»
» Stalking you? I can hardly avoid you - you’re in every other thread,
» posting the same old bullsht. You were ran off the board the last time for
» pushing this nonsense, and here you’ve returned, pushing it again, without
» any proof or data, just like last time.

It’s easy to avoid me…when you see my name…don’t read the post. Easy solution. See…I helped you.

» As for what I do? I tell newbies about the only PROVEN protocols for hair
» loss, the same protocol that has helped me keep my hair for over a decade.
» I talk about REAL trials that have REAL data that can be analyzed.

What are the proven protocols. Rogaine, Propecia, naturals…lol. Bigger laugh is the fact that you have a full head of hair and come here every day.

» Same old Lil’Willy - got your panties in a bunch the second those
» “doctors” claimed Acell grew hair. Frothing at the mouth, you ran back to
» the forum, ready to bask in the glory of your triumph. Only there wasn’t
» any victory, just the same old crow you had to eat last time. How’s it
» taste the second time around?

I love your cute little nickname for me. It’s endearing. BTW, I’m 6’3, 250 lbs so I find you cute little nickname amusing. Crow…I’m proud I got the docs to use it…you’ve done nothing except repeat common knowledge.

» » » » » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF first.
»
» » » If
» » » » I
» » » » » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
» » » »
» » » » And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing Acell
» » » again
» » » » like you did the first time around.
» » »
» » » And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like you
» » did
» » » the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted
» the
» » docs
» » » to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m
» not
» » » sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you
» want,
» » but
» » » at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here
» » EVERY
» » » DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished
» » here?
» »
» » Stalking you? I can hardly avoid you - you’re in every other thread,
» » posting the same old bullsht. You were ran off the board the last time
» for
» » pushing this nonsense, and here you’ve returned, pushing it again,
» without
» » any proof or data, just like last time.
»
»
» It’s easy to avoid me…when you see my name…don’t read the post.
» Easy solution. See…I helped you.
»
»
» » As for what I do? I tell newbies about the only PROVEN protocols for
» hair
» » loss, the same protocol that has helped me keep my hair for over a
» decade.
» » I talk about REAL trials that have REAL data that can be analyzed.
»
» What are the proven protocols. Rogaine, Propecia, naturals…lol.
» Bigger laugh is the fact that you have a full head of hair and come here
» every day.
»
»
» » Same old Lil’Willy - got your panties in a bunch the second those
» » “doctors” claimed Acell grew hair. Frothing at the mouth, you ran back
» to
» » the forum, ready to bask in the glory of your triumph. Only there
» wasn’t
» » any victory, just the same old crow you had to eat last time. How’s it
» » taste the second time around?
»
» I love your cute little nickname for me. It’s endearing. BTW, I’m 6’3,
» 250 lbs so I find you cute little nickname amusing. Crow…I’m proud I
» got the docs to use it…you’ve done nothing except repeat common
» knowledge.

6’3" 250? You sound like a real fatass. Maybe that’ll be my new name for you? Fatass with a little willy? As for my hair, why would I lie? And how many times have I explained why I come here? And finally, given your prolific posting of late (and I’m starting to think its no coincidence that the second a couple of HT “doctors” start pitching Acell, you show up), I wouldn’t be able to post if I had to avoid every thread you stink up with your bullsht. So pat yourself on the back for getting everyone’s hopes up and not delivering TWICE, then hit the treadmill, tubby.

» » » » » » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF
» first.
» »
» » » » If
» » » » » I
» » » » » » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
» » » » »
» » » » » And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing
» Acell
» » » » again
» » » » » like you did the first time around.
» » » »
» » » » And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like
» you
» » » did
» » » » the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted
» » the
» » » docs
» » » » to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m
» » not
» » » » sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you
» » want,
» » » but
» » » » at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here
» » » EVERY
» » » » DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished
» » » here?
» » »
» » » Stalking you? I can hardly avoid you - you’re in every other thread,
» » » posting the same old bullsht. You were ran off the board the last
» time
» » for
» » » pushing this nonsense, and here you’ve returned, pushing it again,
» » without
» » » any proof or data, just like last time.
» »
» »
» » It’s easy to avoid me…when you see my name…don’t read the post.
» » Easy solution. See…I helped you.
» »
» »
» » » As for what I do? I tell newbies about the only PROVEN protocols for
» » hair
» » » loss, the same protocol that has helped me keep my hair for over a
» » decade.
» » » I talk about REAL trials that have REAL data that can be analyzed.
» »
» » What are the proven protocols. Rogaine, Propecia, naturals…lol.
» » Bigger laugh is the fact that you have a full head of hair and come
» here
» » every day.
» »
» »
» » » Same old Lil’Willy - got your panties in a bunch the second those
» » » “doctors” claimed Acell grew hair. Frothing at the mouth, you ran
» back
» » to
» » » the forum, ready to bask in the glory of your triumph. Only there
» » wasn’t
» » » any victory, just the same old crow you had to eat last time. How’s
» it
» » » taste the second time around?
» »
» » I love your cute little nickname for me. It’s endearing. BTW, I’m
» 6’3,
» » 250 lbs so I find you cute little nickname amusing. Crow…I’m proud
» I
» » got the docs to use it…you’ve done nothing except repeat common
» » knowledge.
»
» 6’3" 250? You sound like a real fatass. Maybe that’ll be my new name for
» you? Fatass with a little willy? As for my hair, why would I lie? And
» how many times have I explained why I come here? And finally, given your
» prolific posting of late (and I’m starting to think its no coincidence that
» the second a couple of HT “doctors” start pitching Acell, you show up), I
» wouldn’t be able to post if I had to avoid every thread you stink up with
» your bullsht. So pat yourself on the back for getting everyone’s hopes up
» and not delivering TWICE, then hit the treadmill, tubby.

Seriously am I missing something here! is there anyone sane left in here. why are you immaturely attacking someone who has FROM DAY ONE BEEN COMPLETELY HONEST ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPECTATIONS OF THIS PRODUCT. I remember you trolling and abusing Willy last time, and I remember willy being dignified and rising above it. Seriously grow up, the conspiricy theory rants are childish and the name calling is unecessary.

» » » » » » it) I probably would do it…but I would want to see PROOF
» first.
» »
» » » » If
» » » » » I
» » » » » » were you, I would definately want to see proof too!
» » » » »
» » » » » And yet here you are, reappeared after all this time, pushing
» Acell
» » » » again
» » » » » like you did the first time around.
» » » »
» » » » And yet here you are, after all this time, stalking me again like
» you
» » » did
» » » » the first time around. Anyways, I accomplished my goal. I wanted
» » the
» » » docs
» » » » to check this stuff out and they did/are. It may be total BS (I’m
» » not
» » » » sure), but I wanted them to look into it. :slight_smile: Blast me all you
» » want,
» » » but
» » » » at least I took some action and DID something rather than come here
» » » EVERY
» » » » DAY and just TALK. Unless I’m wrong…what have you accomplished
» » » here?
» » »
» » » Stalking you? I can hardly avoid you - you’re in every other thread,
» » » posting the same old bullsht. You were ran off the board the last
» time
» » for
» » » pushing this nonsense, and here you’ve returned, pushing it again,
» » without
» » » any proof or data, just like last time.
» »
» »
» » It’s easy to avoid me…when you see my name…don’t read the post.
» » Easy solution. See…I helped you.
» »
» »
» » » As for what I do? I tell newbies about the only PROVEN protocols for
» » hair
» » » loss, the same protocol that has helped me keep my hair for over a
» » decade.
» » » I talk about REAL trials that have REAL data that can be analyzed.
» »
» » What are the proven protocols. Rogaine, Propecia, naturals…lol.
» » Bigger laugh is the fact that you have a full head of hair and come
» here
» » every day.
» »
» »
» » » Same old Lil’Willy - got your panties in a bunch the second those
» » » “doctors” claimed Acell grew hair. Frothing at the mouth, you ran
» back
» » to
» » » the forum, ready to bask in the glory of your triumph. Only there
» » wasn’t
» » » any victory, just the same old crow you had to eat last time. How’s
» it
» » » taste the second time around?
» »
» » I love your cute little nickname for me. It’s endearing. BTW, I’m
» 6’3,
» » 250 lbs so I find you cute little nickname amusing. Crow…I’m proud
» I
» » got the docs to use it…you’ve done nothing except repeat common
» » knowledge.
»
» 6’3" 250? You sound like a real fatass. Maybe that’ll be my new name for
» you? Fatass with a little willy? As for my hair, why would I lie? And
» how many times have I explained why I come here? And finally, given your
» prolific posting of late (and I’m starting to think its no coincidence that
» the second a couple of HT “doctors” start pitching Acell, you show up), I
» wouldn’t be able to post if I had to avoid every thread you stink up with
» your bullsht. So pat yourself on the back for getting everyone’s hopes up
» and not delivering TWICE, then hit the treadmill, tubby.

You’re so funny. Actually I work out pretty consistently. I wear size 33 waist jeans and I’m willing to bet my bodyfat percentage is much lower than yours. Have you ever walked into a gym??

You can think whatever you want about my “timing”. I really don’t care. I am posting the info here because I think SOME people may be interested in reading it. I’m not trying to get anyone’s hopes up. I’ve even stated that I’ve lost faith in Acell, but I’m still interested to see what the docs are doing with it. If you check back in the threads, you’ll see that hairsite actually posted that Acell was being used by dr. H.

Why do you think that you decide what is posted in this forum when the owner of this forum posted about Acell himself???

Actually, it’s very easy to avoid my threads…if you see my name, DON’T CLICK ON THAT POST. Easy…problem solved. If that’s still too difficult, work on it.

I’m not planning on going back and forth with you on this. We’ve been down this road before and all it does is bring down the forum. We will have to agree to disagree on this on (or not…I really don’t care).

Wilbert Q. McWilbertson. :stuck_out_tongue:

posted by Willy, 29.01.2010, 19:30
You’re so funny. Actually I work out pretty consistently. I wear size 33 waist jeans and I’m willing to bet my bodyfat percentage is much lower than yours. Have you ever walked into a gym??

fckcck’s not allowed near the gym…
Gyms tend to shun fancy lads that try to befriend hetero dudes in the shower.

This whole thread is almmost funny. Almost, but not quite.

IMHO Acell belongs in the “probably still 5-10 years out” pile.

If any cheerleaders for the stuff wanna disagree, all they have to do is produce some proof.