» I’d like to get excited about these findings, but there’s a long way to go
» from applying for a patent to having a marketable product.
»
»
»
I agree with you,I just thought the fact that they’d tried minox and that produced similar results as those you see in humans, might be a good sign that there could be something in this. Obviously the frustrating thing is it will probably be years before we find out what effect it has on humans.
freddie, do you really think that anyone on this board is going to buy the stuff in your link and inject it into himself? Iy you’re so eager to find out if that stuff works then why not do it yourself and give it a shot?
» » I don’t think that peptide is available for purchase. However, I posted
» » this in another thread. It is also a CRF blocker. There’s no way to
» know
» » if this would work as well. Assuming that it is the blocking of CRF
» that
» » causes the peptide to work, it’s possible. But somebody would have to
» » purchase this and try it.
» »
» » http://www.tocris.com/dispprod.php?ItemId=5283
»
»
» Allright, who’s going to give this a shot?
» freddie, do you really think that anyone on this board is going to buy the
» stuff in your link and inject it into himself? Iy you’re so eager to find
» out if that stuff works then why not do it yourself and give it a shot?
»
» » » I don’t think that peptide is available for purchase. However, I
» posted
» » » this in another thread. It is also a CRF blocker. There’s no way to
» » know
» » » if this would work as well. Assuming that it is the blocking of CRF
» » that
» » » causes the peptide to work, it’s possible. But somebody would have to
» » » purchase this and try it.
» » »
» » » http://www.tocris.com/dispprod.php?ItemId=5283
» »
» »
» » Allright, who’s going to give this a shot?
Hey guys, don’t try this at home!!!
This astress stuff was developed as psychotropic drugs. Don’t play with this!
We don’t talk about Aspirin, or cough syrup…
Curing baldness is one thing, but not to the disadvantage of getting maybe depressive
I definitely think people would home experiment with this stuff if it were available, the truth is we know little about any “drugs” we use but since they are FDA approved we use them. A good place to look is Body building forums as they are also talking about it and have the same problems as us but are more likely to experiment and in many cases have access to chemists.
» Not true. In fact the drug I mentioned as well as the peptide have been
» used in other experiments with similar results (not hair related). That’s
» because they are both CRF blockers. The body doesn’t care whether it is a
» peptide or not.
»
» The big thing is whether it is the CRF-blocking part is what is responsible
» for the hair growth. If it is, then what I linked to would be worth a try.
» Perhaps that’s not what is responsible for the hair growth. But perhaps
» it is. It’s too soon to tell.
»
» So you can wait another 5-10 years to find out, or try something that is
» obtainable now. There’s no way to know without trying.
good point but one thing to keep in mind is that peptides have their own hair-growing action just because they are peptides. we’ve all heard of tricomin, which does grow a little hair just because it’s a peptide. and then there’s ps1. peptides mediate hair growth so it is possible that this new stuff grows hair because it is a particularly good peptide for growing hair and it might have nothing to do with the CRF aspect of the drug.
» I definitely think people would home experiment with this stuff if it were
» available, the truth is we know little about any “drugs” we use but since
» they are FDA approved we use them. A good place to look is Body building
» forums as they are also talking about it and have the same problems as us
» but are more likely to experiment and in many cases have access to
» chemists.
Do we know for a fact that this stuff is NOT available? I think that we should first find out for sure if it is available somewhere in the world…anywhere in the world.
» » I don’t think that peptide is available for purchase. However, I posted
» » this in another thread. It is also a CRF blocker. There’s no way to
» know
» » if this would work as well. Assuming that it is the blocking of CRF
» that
» » causes the peptide to work, it’s possible. But somebody would have to
» » purchase this and try it.
» »
» » http://www.tocris.com/dispprod.php?ItemId=5283
»
»
» Allright, who’s going to give this a shot?
» » » I don’t think that peptide is available for purchase. However, I
» posted
» » » this in another thread. It is also a CRF blocker. There’s no way to
» » know
» » » if this would work as well. Assuming that it is the blocking of CRF
» » that
» » » causes the peptide to work, it’s possible. But somebody would have to
» » » purchase this and try it.
» » »
» » » http://www.tocris.com/dispprod.php?ItemId=5283
» »
» »
» » Allright, who’s going to give this a shot?
»
» Don’t we need the one with the peptide?
Ideally, yes. You want to use the actual peptide used in the study. But if you can’t find that peptide, you want to try something as close as possible that is actually available.
Both the peptide and this are CRF blockers, and both have been used in previous studies for things other than hair. Both had similar results in other studies unrelated to hair.
If it is the CRF-blocking that is causing the hair growth, then this non-peptide may be worth looking at. Unfortunately you won’t know unless somebody tries it. The non-peptide seems to be out there. I haven’t seen anywhere where the peptide is available. So you go with what you can.
» If it is the CRF-blocking that is causing the hair growth, then this
» non-peptide may be worth looking at. Unfortunately you won’t know unless
» somebody tries it. The non-peptide seems to be out there. I haven’t seen
» anywhere where the peptide is available. So you go with what you can.
i just listened to the interview and it became apparent quickly that it will be many years before this ever gets tested in humans let alone released into the market.
first they need funding for such a venture, next they need to get through the FDA just to prove its safe, then they need to do safety studies in humans, then they have to schedule phase II and III trials. My guess is we will all be old & bald by then and not give a f&&&.
the glacial pace at which hair loss research moves is truly frustrating.
really what’s the point of making this breakthrough finding only to have it sit on the shelf and watch it fall by the wayside. 5 yrs from now, my guess is the study will be all but forgotten.
our only hope is to have pioneers inject themselves with this sh&t and risk life and limb in pursuit of hair.
» Hey guys, don’t try this at home!!!
» This astress stuff was developed as psychotropic drugs. Don’t play with
» this!
» We don’t talk about Aspirin, or cough syrup…
Your post sounds like what a little child randomly snapped up in his kindergarten (or during a psychotherapeutic counselling).
» Curing baldness is one thing, but not to the disadvantage of getting maybe
» depressive
» » Hey guys, don’t try this at home!!!
» » This astress stuff was developed as psychotropic drugs. Don’t play with
» » this!
» » We don’t talk about Aspirin, or cough syrup…
»
» Your post sounds like what a little child randomly snapped up in his
» kindergarten (or during a psychotherapeutic counselling).
»
» » Curing baldness is one thing, but not to the disadvantage of getting
» maybe
» » depressive
»
» … and psychiatric like you, I have to add.
Iron.Man you should really be quiet when it comes to DIY stuff, the result of your “Experiements” in the past left their marks, mentally and physically
» Iron.Man you should really be quiet when it comes to DIY stuff, the result
» of your “Experiements” in the past left their marks, mentally and
» physically
No, not really! My strong self esteem, offline as well as online, is the proof!
» » Iron.Man you should really be quiet when it comes to DIY stuff, the
» result
» » of your “Experiements” in the past left their marks, mentally and
» » physically
»
» No, not really! My strong self esteem, offline as well as online, is the
» proof!
»
» Face it, and live with it!
Thats the reason why you cry like a baby when admins are gonna ban you and you try everything to not get banned? Well how classy. And no if you would have a High Self Esteem you wouldnt insult people you would just argument with facts in a grown up way.
But almost all of your 1400 postings consiste of insults. I can live with everything but it doesnt change the fact that you are are worthless sociopathic person who destroyed a whole Forum.
If you are not around everything here goes normal ways but when you around everything is screwed.
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