Hooray for hair, ~4600 SFET / FUE grafts, 2 yrs later

You are obviously blind. Just kidding. But seriously, I doubt that someone, upon meeting this guy, would ever be able to tell that he had a hair transplant. It just looks completely natural.

Dr. Umar,

-Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was extracted from?
(The back of the neck area)

i have seen many transplants
this one does not stand out as detectable

most of the docs on the board, Umar, Dr A, etc etc
are so far past the skill level of “obvious transplant” that its not even worth discussing

there are many docs who are not at that skill level yet but I would say the vast majority of docs on this board are vastly superior to the point their work can easily be detected

Actually Natural is correct in his observation. It stands out as a hair transplant for sure. Hence the reason for no close-up of the hairline;-)

other than that I think it’s a fairly decent result for the coverage recieved.

» Actually Natural is correct in his observation. It stands out as a
» hair transplant for sure. Hence the reason for no close-up of the
» hairline;-)
»
» other than that I think it’s a fairly decent result for the coverage
» recieved.

natural didnt say it looked like a HT ludwig did

oops…I stand corrected:-D

» » Actually Natural is correct in his observation. It stands out as
» a
» » hair transplant for sure. Hence the reason for no close-up of the
» » hairline;-)
» »
» » other than that I think it’s a fairly decent result for the coverage
» » recieved.
»
» natural didnt say it looked like a HT ludwig did

I have to disagree… It looks really natural. He has used mostly singles, and hairs from nape area. This is as natural as a transplant can be…

» hairline looks like an obvious hair transplant to me! sorry being honest
»
»
»

» hairline looks like an obvious hair transplant to me! sorry being honest

I think the goal is to create a mature receeding look which I think Dr. Umar has done just that.

Many ignore the fact that the donor site thins too!

4000 early on in the balding process may be 500 hairs later on.

Look at a 60 to 80 year old’s donor, usually very thin. These are the same hairs that get moved up front… they thin just the same!

No one “in the business” wants to admit this fact, but it is reality! My donor density and transplants are at about 50% of when I had procedures about a decade ago!

» » » » A lot of what ifs, Hangin.
» » »
» » » the main what if is
» » » what if this guy goes to a NW7 then what?
» » »
» » » he used up 4000 grafts on about 30 percent of the front top, he is
» » » basically screwed if that happens since the previous transplant is
» way
» » too
» » » thick to evenly disperse his available grafts over the bald area
» » »
» » » its like you have 50 grande in the bank to last you 10 yrs and you
» use
» » up
» » » 20 grande in one month
» » »
» » » not too smart
» »
» » I would love to hear an answer from a doctor about this possibility of
» » severe loss in future, and what can be done about it
» »
» » hopefully the answer will not include …he can use body hair/…/ body
» » hair seems to be very expensive and unpredictable at this point
»
» you always say: “what if he goes to nw7” , to all pictures. :smiley:

» Dr. Umar,
»
» -Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was extracted
» from?
» (The back of the neck area)

You can see this on my blog also as I has nape hair extracted by Dr. Umar.

» Dr. Umar, do you recommend for new patients to incorporate head, body and
» beard hair from the very beginning even if the patient seems to have enough
» head donor at the time of the procedure. Beard & body hair can add so much
» more density without wasting precious head donor.

Each patient has to be approached differently. Recommendations ought to be customized according to factors that include but are not limited to:

  1. Head donor availability
  2. potential future needs
  3. Patients preferences
  4. Suitability of non head donor supply.

For videos of SFET results click: Patient Photos and Videos - DermHair Clinic in Los Angeles 310-318-1500

S. Umar, M.D., FAAD
DermHair Clinic
Redondo Beach, California
+1-310-318-1500
1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents)
info@dermhairclinic.com
WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com
Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET)
Using Head and Body

For a free online consultation: Free Hair Restoration Online Consultation - DermHair Clinic Los Angeles

I’ve been thinking about the same thing, I’ve never head hair transplant before. If I add some body or beard hair to the mix, this will surely reduce the demand for head donor and increase the supply of total donor availability. As long as we do not use body hair for the hairline I really see any harm with this strategy.

» » Dr. Umar, do you recommend for new patients to incorporate head, body
» and
» » beard hair from the very beginning even if the patient seems to have
» enough
» » head donor at the time of the procedure. Beard & body hair can add so
» much
» » more density without wasting precious head donor.
»
» Each patient has to be approached differently. Recommendations ought to be
» customized according to factors that include but are not limited to:
»
» 1. Head donor availability
» 2. potential future needs
» 3. Patients preferences
» 4. Suitability of non head donor supply.
»
»
» For videos of SFET results click:
» Patient Photos and Videos - DermHair Clinic in Los Angeles 310-318-1500
»
»
» S. Umar, M.D., FAAD
» DermHair Clinic
» Redondo Beach, California
» +1-310-318-1500
» 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents)
» info@dermhairclinic.com
» WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com
» Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET)
» Using Head and Body
»
» For a free online consultation:
» Free Hair Restoration Online Consultation - DermHair Clinic Los Angeles

» » Dr. Umar,
» »
» » -Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was extracted
» » from?
» » (The back of the neck area)
»
» You can see this on my blog also as I has nape hair extracted by Dr. Umar.

Are you Hooray for hair? Is this thread on your surgery?
And no I don’t see what I’m looking for, thanks anyway. But I am however hoping to see it soon from dr umar what i’m looking for.

"As long as we do not use body hair for the hairline I really see any harm with this strategy. " - fastforward

Hi Fast,

Actually, Dr. Umar used leg hair to “repair” my old HT hairline and about 1000 grafts did the trick very nicely. My leg hair blends perfectly with the 1990s “micro” strip grafts growing behind my new hairline.

IMO, nape hair and yes, sometimes body hair can indeed be used in the hairline to create that “soft” transition zone just before the stronger, thicker head-hair grafts that provide density.

Check it out… (After 2+ years)

Hooray,

Congrats man!
L o o k i n g G o o d !
Happy growing to ya.
:smiley:

» » » Dr. Umar,
» » »
» » » -Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was
» extracted
» » » from?
» » » (The back of the neck area)
» »
» » You can see this on my blog also as I has nape hair extracted by Dr.
» Umar.
»
» Are you Hooray for hair? Is this thread on your surgery?
» And no I don’t see what I’m looking for, thanks anyway. But I am however
» hoping to see it soon from dr umar what i’m looking for.

Results shown are from pictures received from Hooray for Hair. All of what was received was posted. So at this point I would be unable to meet special requests. You have also stated that close-up pictures of the hairline were not posted in order to obscure a transplanted look. This is not the case. We have no control over pictures taken in Sidney Australia. We are grateful to Hoorayforhair for the effort taken to send the pictures over and letting us share them with the forum.

For videos of SFET results click: Patient Photos and Videos - DermHair Clinic in Los Angeles 310-318-1500

S. Umar, M.D., FAAD
DermHair Clinic
Redondo Beach, California
+1-310-318-1500
1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents)
info@dermhairclinic.com
WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com
Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET)
Using Head and Body

For a free online consultation: Free Hair Restoration Online Consultation - DermHair Clinic Los Angeles

» » » Dr. Umar,
» » »
» » » -Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was
» extracted
» » » from?
» » » (The back of the neck area)
» »
» » You can see this on my blog also as I has nape hair extracted by Dr.
» Umar.
»
» Are you Hooray for hair? Is this thread on your surgery?
» And no I don’t see what I’m looking for, thanks anyway. But I am however
» hoping to see it soon from dr umar what i’m looking for.

For some reason I am, once again having trouble uploading pictures directly to this site, (even though my pic is a jpeg) so if you click on the link it will take you to directly in my blog what you seem to be wanting; a close up of the nape area (back of the neck) where grafts were extracted. If you click on the picture it will give you a close up.

These pictures of the nape area where grafts were extracted were taken only 2 days after my procedure which was performed on October 11, 2007.

Is this not what you are asking for?

http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008/02/october-13-2007.html

» » » » Dr. Umar,
» » » »
» » » » -Can you please post a close-up pic of the nape area hair was
» » extracted
» » » » from?
» » » » (The back of the neck area)
» » »
» » » You can see this on my blog also as I has nape hair extracted by Dr.
» » Umar.
» »
» » Are you Hooray for hair? Is this thread on your surgery?
» » And no I don’t see what I’m looking for, thanks anyway. But I am
» however
» » hoping to see it soon from dr umar what i’m looking for.
»
» For some reason I am, once again having trouble uploading pictures
» directly to this site, (even though my pic is a jpeg) so if you click on
» the link it will take you to directly in my blog what you seem to be
» wanting; a close up of the nape area (back of the neck) where grafts were
» extracted. If you click on the picture it will give you a close up.
»
» These pictures of the nape area where grafts were extracted were taken
» only 2 days after my procedure which was performed on October 11, 2007.
»
» Is this not what you are asking for?
»
» http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008/02/october-13-2007.html

I see your photos, keepitshorter, thanks a lot.

When the term “nape hair” was used I was always under the impression that it was the hair from the back of the neck area, not the bottom portion of the donor site (lower back of the head). I thought it was refered to the area us men always shave off when we get a hair cut on the back of our necks.

This is not nape hair, this is the lower portion of the head. Nape hair is the hair on the back of the neck, the hair we always shave off.

So when surgeons say they used nape hair, they’re using the wrong terminology? Because This is NOT nape hair, unless keepitshorter showed me wrong pics.

Dr. Umar can you clarify this pls? This is why I was so interested in seeing the pics post op of the nape area to see what the area would look like as this would always be visible.

»
» I see your photos, keepitshorter, thanks a lot.
»
» When the term “nape hair” was used I was always under the impression that
» it was the hair from the back of the neck area, not the bottom
» portion of the donor site (lower back of the head). I thought it was
» refered to the area us men always shave off when we get a hair cut on the
» back of our necks.
»
» This is not nape hair, this is the lower portion of the head. Nape
» hair is the hair on the back of the neck, the hair we always shave off.
»
» So when surgeons say they used nape hair, they’re using the wrong
» terminology? Because This is NOT nape hair, unless keepitshorter showed me
» wrong pics.
»
» Dr. Umar can you clarify this pls? This is why I was so interested in
» seeing the pics post op of the nape area to see what the area would look
» like as this would always be visible.

MJ:

If you feel the back of your neck you will notice that there is in fact hair that grows out of the back of the neck right where the top part of your neck begins and your skull ends.

From my understanding this is the nape of your neck and hair does grow from this area and can be used, as in my case.

» »
» » I see your photos, keepitshorter, thanks a lot.
» »
» » When the term “nape hair” was used I was always under the impression
» that
» » it was the hair from the back of the neck area, not the bottom
» » portion of the donor site (lower back of the head). I thought it was
» » refered to the area us men always shave off when we get a hair cut on
» the
» » back of our necks.
» »
» » This is not nape hair, this is the lower portion of the head.
» Nape
» » hair is the hair on the back of the neck, the hair we always shave off.
»
» »
» » So when surgeons say they used nape hair, they’re using the wrong
» » terminology? Because This is NOT nape hair, unless keepitshorter showed
» me
» » wrong pics.
» »
» » Dr. Umar can you clarify this pls? This is why I was so interested in
» » seeing the pics post op of the nape area to see what the area would
» look
» » like as this would always be visible.
»
»
» MJ:
»
» If you feel the back of your neck you will notice that there is in fact
» hair that grows out of the back of the neck right where the top part of
» your neck begins and your skull ends.
»
» From my understanding this is the nape of your neck and hair does grow
» from this area and can be used, as in my case.

Your donor extraction is from the back of the head and circled in your pic.

I don’t want anyone thinking I’m slamming the doc or these results. The results in my opinion are just fine. I’m only discussing where the nape area really is, because this entire time I was imaginging the back of the neck. Hence the reason for me always asking for pics of the area.

The description of these surgeries indicate the extraction is from the nape area (nape hair). Which isn’t the case.

The nape area is circled in red your pic and there is no extraction from there.

The back of the head is never called nape…the back of the neck is nape.

Red = Nape hair/ Nape Area

Black = Back of the head; extraction sites. AKA back of the Head.

nape means the back of the NECK.