Hitzig\'s PRP/Acell Photos

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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I am absolutely daccord with Shooter on this.

Someone (a hair surgeon) is tsicking up as* on the frontline and he got backfired by people who want a treatment, thats ridicolous.

We have Rogain Propecia Hell-Iam-60-years-old Ahab and Iron-Wanna-know-the-REAL-secret-behind-everything-Man

What is wrong with those people. Ahab if this would be lika Rogaine well then those hairs would be gone after a year, but they still are there.

And how do you explain those transplant results with acell and lets say only 500 cheap grafts?

Oh i regret this question already because Iron Man will stomp in with his infinite wisdom about everything, but when it comes to the hard and important questions he back the shi* off on the spot.

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» » How much would someone be willing to pay for this type of results? They
» » are charging nearly 3-4x more than the cost of just PRP. Not sure it’s
» » worth it. Yes, there is “some” growth, but, nothing that makes even a
» » slight cosmetic improvement. The regrowth is interesting from a
» scientific
» » perspective. But, from a aesthetic view point,
» these guys looked bald
» » before and just as bald after.
»
» The “aesthetic point of view” just depends on TECHNIQUE/METHODE & STRATEGY,
» as “anecdotal” described here:
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-76663-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
»
» … sure, including a big portion of scientific knowledge/background (if
» someone do not know WHY something happens/occurs, he can’t “fine-tune” or
» influence or can’t improve something - at that all is currently the problem
» concerning “aesthetic”).
»
» Pay me $100,000 and I write you 1 - 3 nicely (and working) protocols -
» including every necessary scientific background (references of claims).

Iron Man your posts are often nonsense and gibberish designed to make you look like you know something that rest of us are too stupid to realize even though we should realize it. It’s kind of funny but it’s also kind of annoying because it is unjustifiably self-serving in the sense that you are acting like you are more aware than the rest of us but you really never say anything that puts what you supposedly know on the line. you’re kind of a bs artist.

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» What’s really interesting about this procedure is that Hitzig has recently
» made a move to start working with a company to isolate the growth factors
» and adult stem cells from PRP/Acell so the results might get even better as
» time progresses. I think this in conjunction with a transplant could be a
» HUGE improvement, also keep in mind that the picture on top is 6 months
» post procedure and he could see more growth over the next half year, so now
» the refined procedure might be even better. I contacted him about getting
» the procedure done and if I do, I will post my personal before and afters
» on the hairsite forum.

I am interested too. I see significant regrowth too. If he can get this percentage of an increase in ALL people then he could have the best non-transplant treatment in the world. Most men can not do that good with propecia and minoxidil. I’m impressed!!!

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» » What do you guys think?
» »
» » http://nyhairloss.com/portfolio/acell-prp-case-studies/
»
»
» So Im the only one seeing different lighting/contrast/hair length/parting
» of the hair? I guess Im just being negative. But a little photoshop makes
» the result a bit less impressive. But again, It´s probably just me. A hair
» count would have been nice though.
»

There is obviously more hair on these people’s heads.

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» » What do you guys think?
» »
» » http://nyhairloss.com/portfolio/acell-prp-case-studies/
»
» Those results are comparable to the results I got from using Rogaine.
»
» So it could mean that all he’s doing is waking up those hairs that are
» temporarily resting.
»
» Because about 15-20% of healthy hair follicles at any given time, stop
» growing hair for a few months out of the 3-6 years of the hair cycle.
»
» Rogaine stops those follicles from taking their vacations. Rogaine may
» also increase the diameter of hairs that are growing.
»
» I suspect Rogaine does not wake up follicles that have succumbed to mpb,
» but only those 15-20% of healthy follices that are temporarily resting at
» any one time.
»
» So it could be Hitzig’s treatment produces no better results.
»
» And like Rogaine, the benefits may prove temporary (didn’t Greco’s use of
» plasma, albeit without ACell, prove to last only about 9 months?).

The percentage increase he got is better than what most people get from rogaine. I tried rogaine but got no regrowth at all.
If Dr. Histig can get the same percentage increase for all patients that he got for these two then I would say he has accomplished something big…revolutionary.

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» » What do you guys think?
» »
» » http://nyhairloss.com/portfolio/acell-prp-case-studies/
»
» Those results are comparable to the results I got from using Rogaine.
»
» So it could mean that all he’s doing is waking up those hairs that are
» temporarily resting.
»
» Because about 15-20% of healthy hair follicles at any given time, stop
» growing hair for a few months out of the 3-6 years of the hair cycle.
»
» Rogaine stops those follicles from taking their vacations. Rogaine may
» also increase the diameter of hairs that are growing.
»
» I suspect Rogaine does not wake up follicles that have succumbed to mpb,
» but only those 15-20% of healthy follices that are temporarily resting at
» any one time.
»
» So it could be Hitzig’s treatment produces no better results.
»
» And like Rogaine, the benefits may prove temporary (didn’t Greco’s use of
» plasma, albeit without ACell, prove to last only about 9 months?).

Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient does not get results that good with minoxidil so maybe you respond better than the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr. Hitzig’s patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil. Most patients do not get even noticable regowth from minoxidil. if you are one of the lucky ones that got that much regrowth from minoxidil then that means that you might be a good responder to hair loss treatments and you might get great results from Dr. Hitzig’s treatment. I think it’s very impressive that Dr. Hitzig got the results he has so far. It looks like he did only two patients so it is more likely that his two patients are poor or average responders because that is what most patients are when it comes to hair loss medicines (rogaine and propecia) so it is likely that these are poor responders or mediocre responders than good responders.

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Also both are “older” then ypur average young baldie with svere NW6 or NW7 schemes. And most important here, it can work to get hairs back even if you are NW6 or NW7.

If you look at those photos you can also see that their donor is thin, really thin.

First Person

  1. Absolutely impressive, even when some people argue " Lightning is crap etc" you cant ignore the fact that even in the frontal area significant hair has grow back. Also the vertex area has now a curl again WHICH is amazing.

Left foto no curl and right foto curl (you cant manipulate this curl)

And after one year, this is impressive and seems to be permanent, cause the hair grow most likely where it is connected or near the donor area. Its almost like his hairloss is well to speak very childish here, “Reversed or beginning to reverse”

  1. This patient had a botched transplant in the past and is “older” which means hairloss for more then just 10 years or so.

Results here : Strangely hairgrow in frontal area(which according to some “experts” is Impossible) and overall an seeable increase in density.

Whats amazing here : The Age, the botched HT before and the very small or non relevant donor area.

His hairloss is vera drastic but still, the hair grew back and is still coming through.

And also there are two different Approaches here

PRP and APRP which as someone here said already could mark another treatment for different kind of people. Cause everybody can respond to PRP in another way.

  1. The Expectation : The most important thing if this one time treatment could halt hairloss without using minox and prop we could say we have a “Cure” or a “Clockstopper” for hairloss.

Even your average untouched NW5 could become a NW2 again for the rest of his life because with no more hairloss, even a good ht could bring some perfect results.

I hope that those Expectations will life up and we can dance in 2012 :slight_smile:

And also people with botched hair transplants in the past could at least have some hope because it seems that it can reanimate “to believed dead” grafts.

So right now, as hard as it seems, we all can only wait for mid to end of 2011 for more promising results from ALL researchers.

And no it wont be 5 to 10 years till we get our hair back, At most 3 years or so, cause lets face it.

The treatments available right now are game changers

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» » » How much would someone be willing to pay for this type of results?
» They
» » » are charging nearly 3-4x more than the cost of just PRP. Not sure
» it’s
» » » worth it. Yes, there is “some” growth, but, nothing that makes even a
» » » slight cosmetic improvement. The regrowth is interesting from a
» » scientific
» » » perspective. But, from a aesthetic view
» point,
» » these guys looked bald
» » » before and just as bald after.
» »
» » The “aesthetic point of view” just depends on TECHNIQUE/METHODE &
» STRATEGY,
» » as “anecdotal” described here:
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-76663-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
» »
» » … sure, including a big portion of scientific knowledge/background (if
» » someone do not know WHY something happens/occurs, he can’t “fine-tune”
» or
» » influence or can’t improve something - at that all is currently the
» problem
» » concerning “aesthetic”).
» »
» » Pay me $100,000 and I write you 1 - 3 nicely (and working) protocols -
» » including every necessary scientific background (references of claims).
»
» Then for gods sake help those people WHO needs fine tuning in their efforts
» to “cure” baldness instead of laughing your as* off and suck on other
» peoples suffering.
»
» And what for do you need 100.000 US dollar? For a semi half as* Gho hair
» restoration?

I’m new here but I can tell you that the guy is either a fool or a charlatan. Ignore him.

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» Also both are “older” then ypur average young baldie with svere NW6 or NW7
» schemes. And most important here, it can work to get hairs back even if you
» are NW6 or NW7.
»
» If you look at those photos you can also see that their donor is thin,
» really thin.
»
» First Person
»
» 1) Absolutely impressive, even when some people argue " Lightning is crap
» etc" you cant ignore the fact that even in the frontal area significant
» hair has grow back. Also the vertex area has now a curl again WHICH is
» amazing.
»
» Left foto no curl and right foto curl (you cant manipulate this curl)
»
» And after one year, this is impressive and seems to be permanent, cause the
» hair grow most likely where it is connected or near the donor area. Its
» almost like his hairloss is well to speak very childish here, “Reversed or
» beginning to reverse”
»
» 2) This patient had a botched transplant in the past and is “older” which
» means hairloss for more then just 10 years or so.
»
» Results here : Strangely hairgrow in frontal area(which according to some
» “experts” is Impossible) and overall an seeable increase in density.
»
» Whats amazing here : The Age, the botched HT before and the very small or
» non relevant donor area.
»
» His hairloss is vera drastic but still, the hair grew back and is still
» coming through.
»
» And also there are two different Approaches here
»
» PRP and APRP which as someone here said already could mark another
» treatment for different kind of people. Cause everybody can respond to PRP
» in another way.
»
» 3) The Expectation : The most important thing if this one time treatment
» could halt hairloss without using minox and prop we could say we have a
» “Cure” or a “Clockstopper” for hairloss.
»
» Even your average untouched NW5 could become a NW2 again for the rest of
» his life because with no more hairloss, even a good ht could bring some
» perfect results.
»
» I hope that those Expectations will life up and we can dance in 2012 :slight_smile:
»
» And also people with botched hair transplants in the past could at least
» have some hope because it seems that it can reanimate “to believed dead”
» grafts.
»
» So right now, as hard as it seems, we all can only wait for mid to end of
» 2011 for more promising results from ALL researchers.
»
» And no it wont be 5 to 10 years till we get our hair back, At most 3 years
» or so, cause lets face it.
»
» The treatments available right now are game changers

Plus, what if you got more injections/treatments??? This is just one treatment but what if you got a few more. It might be addative. Also, Dr. Hitzig is even now trying to see if he can further enhance results by adding stem cells. I wish it was progenitor cells instead, but maybe stem cells might give some added benefit.

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» Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient does
» not get results that good with minoxidil

You call those good results?

It’s hard to say from the photos how much improvement there is. In the bottom set of photos, the lighting seems darker for the improved photo. And in the first photo, the hair might be longer in the improved photo.

Overall both photos look like about a 20% improvement to me.

» so maybe you respond better than
» the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr. Hitzig’s
» patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil.

It’s very difficult for the inexperienced observer to see the regrowth from minoxidil, especially on their own head.

One way I could tell was that after six or so months, by using two mirrors I could see a great many short young hairs springing back as I combed by hair against its direction of growth.

During all this time I lost almost no hair–I could go for months and months with few if any hairs stuck in my hairbrush.

After a year of rogaine, there were no short hairs to be seen at all: all my follicles were growing at once with none in the resting stage.

And it was harder to see scalp.

Had my thinning been more advanced when I started Rogaine, it’s possible that the additional coverage of 20% that rogaine provided, would not have been enough for the improvement to be obvious.

But when all you need is 15-20% more hair to make the scape harder to see, then the improvement is noticable.

If your hair loss is very advanced–certainly if you’re already bald–you won’t see any improvement in coverage at all, because 20% of nothing is still nothing.

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» » Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient
» does
» » not get results that good with minoxidil
»
» You call those good results?
»
» It’s hard to say from the photos how much improvement there is. In the
» bottom set of photos, the lighting seems darker for the improved photo.
» And in the first photo, the hair might be longer in the improved photo.
»
» Overall both photos look like about a 20% improvement to me.
»
» » so maybe you respond better than
» » the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr.
» Hitzig’s
» » patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil.
»
» It’s very difficult for the inexperienced observer to see the regrowth from
» minoxidil, especially on their own head.
»
» One way I could tell was that after six or so months, by using two mirrors
» I could see a great many short young hairs springing back as I combed by
» hair against its direction of growth.
»
» During all this time I lost almost no hair–I could go for months and
» months with few if any hairs stuck in my hairbrush.
»
» After a year of rogaine, there were no short hairs to be seen at all: all
» my follicles were growing at once with none in the resting stage.
»
» And it was harder to see scalp.
»
» Had my thinning been more advanced when I started Rogaine, it’s possible
» that the additional coverage of 20% that rogaine provided, would not have
» been enough for the improvement to be obvious.
»
» But when all you need is 15-20% more hair to make the scape harder to see,
» then the improvement is noticable.
»
» If your hair loss is very advanced–certainly if you’re already bald–you
» won’t see any improvement in coverage at all, because 20% of nothing is
» still nothing.

it is difficult based on these two photos alone to be drawn to a concusion either way so for me “the jury is still out”.

perhaps more pictures, patient feedback on forums is what is required.

wouldnt it be great if the doctors actually took the time to take measurements. i mean could tey not take an average hair diameter of 100 or so hairs in the treated area then at 9 month follow up take an average hair diameter of 100 hairs in the same area (not the exact same hairs). you would assume that if the treatment foe effective there shoul be an overall increase in the average hair diameter. the doctors would do their credibility no harm whatsoever if they just went the extra step to prove their treatments.

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» » » » How much would someone be willing to pay for this type of results?
» » They
» » » » are charging nearly 3-4x more than the cost of just PRP. Not sure
» » it’s
» » » » worth it. Yes, there is “some” growth, but, nothing that makes even
» a
» » » » slight cosmetic improvement. The regrowth is interesting from a
» » » scientific
» » » » perspective. But, from a aesthetic view
» » point,
» » » these guys looked bald
» » » » before and just as bald after.
» » »
» » » The “aesthetic point of view” just depends on TECHNIQUE/METHODE &
» » STRATEGY,
» » » as “anecdotal” described here:
» » »
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-76663-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
» » »
» » » … sure, including a big portion of scientific knowledge/background
» (if
» » » someone do not know WHY something happens/occurs, he can’t “fine-tune”
» » or
» » » influence or can’t improve something - at that all is currently the
» » problem
» » » concerning “aesthetic”).
» » »
» » » Pay me $100,000 and I write you 1 - 3 nicely (and working) protocols -
» » » including every necessary scientific background (references of
» claims).
» »
» » Then for gods sake help those people WHO needs fine tuning in their
» efforts
» » to “cure” baldness instead of laughing your as* off and suck on other
» » peoples suffering.
» »
» » And what for do you need 100.000 US dollar? For a semi half as* Gho hair
» » restoration?
»
» I for one would not pay for either of them.The both photos still show
» thinning/balding heads.
»
» Yes Gho’s HM looks better.

If you are talking about Dr. Hitzig’s pictures then I will respond by saying that yes they are still missing hair but they are missing less hair than they were before Dr. Hitzig’s treatment. I will also say that they definitely looked bald in the before pics but in the after pics they look like they are thinninng instead of bald. There is considerable improvement.

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I call those very good results. Keep in mind that there are so many things that have been tried to grow hair on bald scalps and almost none of them have done anything to regrow hair. So far there are only medicines approved for hair growth in the united states. We are talking about a very difficult biological task - growing hair. If I could get the same percentage increase as the people in those pics then I would go from about a NW 3.5 to a NW 2 and that would be a big change in my life. Remember that there are shampoos and the like that can make hair look about 5% thicker (like toppix) so if I could get myself back to a NW 2 and then use those illusory shampoos and thickeners to add the appearance of a little more, then I might see enough improvement to satisfy me.

» » Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient
» does
» » not get results that good with minoxidil
»
» You call those good results?
»
» It’s hard to say from the photos how much improvement there is. In the
» bottom set of photos, the lighting seems darker for the improved photo.
» And in the first photo, the hair might be longer in the improved photo.
»
» Overall both photos look like about a 20% improvement to me.
»
» » so maybe you respond better than
» » the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr.
» Hitzig’s
» » patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil.
»
» It’s very difficult for the inexperienced observer to see the regrowth from
» minoxidil, especially on their own head.
»
» One way I could tell was that after six or so months, by using two mirrors
» I could see a great many short young hairs springing back as I combed by
» hair against its direction of growth.
»
» During all this time I lost almost no hair–I could go for months and
» months with few if any hairs stuck in my hairbrush.
»
» After a year of rogaine, there were no short hairs to be seen at all: all
» my follicles were growing at once with none in the resting stage.
»
» And it was harder to see scalp.
»
» Had my thinning been more advanced when I started Rogaine, it’s possible
» that the additional coverage of 20% that rogaine provided, would not have
» been enough for the improvement to be obvious.
»
» But when all you need is 15-20% more hair to make the scape harder to see,
» then the improvement is noticable.
»
» If your hair loss is very advanced–certainly if you’re already bald–you
» won’t see any improvement in coverage at all, because 20% of nothing is
» still nothing.

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» Plus, what if you got more injections/treatments??? This is just one
» treatment but what if you got a few more. It might be addative. Also, Dr.
» Hitzig is even now trying to see if he can further enhance results by
» adding stem cells. I wish it was progenitor cells instead, but maybe stem
» cells might give some added benefit.

How about plus adding some bimatoprost (or something) plus any wnt’s proteins (or something) plus Freddie555’s avodart/propecia plus minoxidil & nizoral 2% shampoo ingredients cocktail (or something) and then injecting this googoo’s super-hair-regeneration-mix for desperates?

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» I call those very good results. Keep in mind that there are so many things
» that have been tried to grow hair on bald scalps and almost none of them
» have done anything to regrow hair. So far there are only medicines
» approved for hair growth in the united states. We are talking about a very
» difficult biological task - growing hair. If I could get the same
» percentage increase as the people in those pics then I would go from about
» a NW 3.5 to a NW 2 and that would be a big change in my life. Remember
» that there are shampoos and the like that can make hair look about 5%
» thicker (like toppix) so if I could get myself back to a NW 2 and then use
» those illusory shampoos and thickeners to add the appearance of a little
» more, then I might see enough improvement to satisfy me.

You base that all on four pictures (which show little and dubious improvement)?

I’m sure Propecia and Avodart and Rogaine can show you four equal or better pictures on at least some people who use those medications.

And BTW, toppik makes you look like you’re wearing a bad wig–because toppik fibers–unlike actual hair–are not transluscent like your real hair.

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» The pics are impressive. I would want to end up with more hair than the
» after pics reflect but I do acknowledge that Dr. Hitzig has definitely
» thickened the hair of both of these patients. There is an “obvious”
» increase in hair thickness. I wonder if he could get better results with
» continued injections/treatments???
»
»
» » What do you guys think?
» »
» » http://nyhairloss.com/portfolio/acell-prp-case-studies/

Impressive??? Do you know if the guy on the pics is on propecia? I can show you hundreds of propecia-before-after-pics with the same or more results.

I saw same results only with prp.

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» » The pics are impressive. I would want to end up with more hair than the
» » after pics reflect but I do acknowledge that Dr. Hitzig has definitely
» » thickened the hair of both of these patients. There is an “obvious”
» » increase in hair thickness. I wonder if he could get better results
» with
» » continued injections/treatments???
» »
» »
» » » What do you guys think?
» » »
» » » http://nyhairloss.com/portfolio/acell-prp-case-studies/
»
»
» Impressive??? Do you know if the guy on the pics is on propecia? I can show
» you hundreds of propecia-before-after-pics with the same or more results.
»
» I saw same results only with prp.

Matigol have you actually read the text besides the pictures? or are some person who never reads newspapers because therer are no pictures in it.

It clearly states " Patients do not wish to undergo transplant or Medication"

Who are you? A troll or what?

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» » Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient
» does
» » not get results that good with minoxidil
»
» You call those good results?
»
» It’s hard to say from the photos how much improvement there is. In the
» bottom set of photos, the lighting seems darker for the improved photo.
» And in the first photo, the hair might be longer in the improved photo.
»
» Overall both photos look like about a 20% improvement to me.
»
» » so maybe you respond better than
» » the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr.
» Hitzig’s
» » patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil.
»
» It’s very difficult for the inexperienced observer to see the regrowth from
» minoxidil, especially on their own head.
»
» One way I could tell was that after six or so months, by using two mirrors
» I could see a great many short young hairs springing back as I combed by
» hair against its direction of growth.
»
» During all this time I lost almost no hair–I could go for months and
» months with few if any hairs stuck in my hairbrush.
»
» After a year of rogaine, there were no short hairs to be seen at all: all
» my follicles were growing at once with none in the resting stage.
»
» And it was harder to see scalp.
»
» Had my thinning been more advanced when I started Rogaine, it’s possible
» that the additional coverage of 20% that rogaine provided, would not have
» been enough for the improvement to be obvious.
»
» But when all you need is 15-20% more hair to make the scape harder to see,
» then the improvement is noticable.
»
» If your hair loss is very advanced–certainly if you’re already bald–you
» won’t see any improvement in coverage at all, because 20% of nothing is
» still nothing.

I agree, sort of. You see a 20% improvement but i see a 20 - 25 percent improvement. That means I see about 1/4 more hair than the patients started with. Keep in mind that this is just ONE treatment Ahab and these are probably mediocre responders so you might do better with just one of Dr. Hitzig’s treatments than these two patients did, and you could get f/up treatments by Hitzig say once a month for 6 months say. Then you would have 6 times as much of this new treatment as these people got. Plus Dr. Hitzig is trying to add a stem cell treatment into the mix. Plus you could still do other treatments like minoxidil and/or propecia. Plus there are cosmetic hair illusory products that create the illusion of more hair. All of these things considered i think that if Dr. Hitzig can continue to build on his sucess so far and improve his results somewhat, and if he can make the good results consistent so we can virtually ALL get the good results, plus the combo of things like doing more than just one of Dr. Histig’s injection/treatment sessions and minoxidil/propecia, plus a good cosmetic thickener to add illusory thickness to our hair, then I think that a lot of us might be satisfied.

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» » » Ahab, you have a lot of assuming going on there. the average patient
» » does
» » » not get results that good with minoxidil
» »
» » You call those good results?
» »
» » It’s hard to say from the photos how much improvement there is. In the
» » bottom set of photos, the lighting seems darker for the improved photo.
» » And in the first photo, the hair might be longer in the improved photo.
» »
» » Overall both photos look like about a 20% improvement to me.
» »
» » » so maybe you respond better than
» » » the average person and maybe you would get better results than Dr.
» » Hitzig’s
» » » patient did. I got no noticable regrowth from minoxidil.
» »
» » It’s very difficult for the inexperienced observer to see the regrowth
» from
» » minoxidil, especially on their own head.
» »
» » One way I could tell was that after six or so months, by using two
» mirrors
» » I could see a great many short young hairs springing back as I combed by
» » hair against its direction of growth.
» »
» » During all this time I lost almost no hair–I could go for months and
» » months with few if any hairs stuck in my hairbrush.
» »
» » After a year of rogaine, there were no short hairs to be seen at all:
» all
» » my follicles were growing at once with none in the resting stage.
» »
» » And it was harder to see scalp.
» »
» » Had my thinning been more advanced when I started Rogaine, it’s possible
» » that the additional coverage of 20% that rogaine provided, would not
» have
» » been enough for the improvement to be obvious.
» »
» » But when all you need is 15-20% more hair to make the scape harder to
» see,
» » then the improvement is noticable.
» »
» » If your hair loss is very advanced–certainly if you’re already
» bald–you
» » won’t see any improvement in coverage at all, because 20% of nothing is
» » still nothing.
»
»
» I agree, sort of. You see a 20% improvement but i see a 20 - 25 percent
» improvement. That means I see about 1/4 more hair than the patients
» started with. Keep in mind that this is just ONE treatment Ahab and these
» are probably mediocre responders so you might do better with just one of
» Dr. Hitzig’s treatments than these two patients did, and you could get f/up
» treatments by Hitzig say once a month for 6 months say. Then you would
» have 6 times as much of this new treatment as these people got. Plus Dr.
» Hitzig is trying to add a stem cell treatment into the mix. Plus you could
» still do other treatments like minoxidil and/or propecia. Plus there are
» cosmetic hair illusory products that create the illusion of more hair. All
» of these things considered i think that if Dr. Hitzig can continue to build
» on his sucess so far and improve his results somewhat, and if he can make
» the good results consistent so we can virtually ALL get the good results,
» plus the combo of things like doing more than just one of Dr. Histig’s
» injection/treatment sessions and minoxidil/propecia, plus a good cosmetic
» thickener to add illusory thickness to our hair, then I think that a lot of
» us might be satisfied.

I cant see much if any improvement to be honest the after pictures in both just seem to have longer hair but not thicker or more. I am no a nay sayer eithe i’m really hopeful for the autocloning procedure but these prp/acell results so far are not that astounding at all.

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» » Plus, what if you got more injections/treatments??? This is just one
» » treatment but what if you got a few more. It might be addative. Also,
» Dr.
» » Hitzig is even now trying to see if he can further enhance results by
» » adding stem cells. I wish it was
» progenitor cells instead, but maybe stem
» » cells might give some added benefit.
»
» How about plus adding some bimatoprost (or something) plus any wnt’s
» proteins (or something) plus Freddie555’s avodart/propecia plus minoxidil &
» nizoral 2% shampoo ingredients cocktail (or something) and then injecting
» this googoo’s super-hair-regeneration-mix for desperates?
»

It aint my “mix” but I am impressed by it. I’m ecstatic! I see a possibility that we may get a chance to get the appearance of enough new hair to satisfy us. I may never get it all back but if by adding all possible treatments together and then a good cosmetic thickener to create the illusion of more hair then I think I might end up satisfied. I am a NW 3.5. I am not a NW6 or 7 so I don’t need to go from a 7 to a 1 to be satisfied. If I could go from a 3.5 to a 2 I would be satisfied. Also, keep in mind that Dr. Hitzig is not through yet…he is trying to add some stem cell treatment to the mix. This aint over yet! And as I have already said, these two patients got just one of Dr. Hitzig injection sessions, what if we got 2 or 3 or 4??? Maybe the results compound.

The negative voices are being too quick to condemn I think. This needs a little more time I think. I’m very excited about this development.