» Hello TE, my appologies.
»
» The article posted by Leeroy.Jenkins has a wrong date, and appears with a
» recent date, when in fact is 2 year old.
»
» As you say, Series A was closed 2 years ago, so it doesn’t belong to our
» discussion.
»
» You might be right about the Series B being raised from Singapore
» investors.
»
» » The best source of news that I have been able to glean comes by
» requesting
» » updated information from the principles (ie: the company representatives
» or
» » marketing dept’s). I have requested information directly from Eileen
» » Naughton Brand, Director of Corporate Communications, Histogen Inc. for
» » most of my Histogen related enquiries. I have shared this information
» with
» » others and, subsequently, have been ‘attacked’ by citing it. Many of
» the
» » blog sites are populated by people who do not use due diligence or
» » discipline in approaching the subject. The best general site I have
» found
» » is a follica blog but even there you have to filter the information.
» It’s
» » probably best to use your own initiative and keep your own council. I
» did
» » indeed make the mistake of saying that Histogen had begun it’s trials
» in
» » Singapore when they had not done so (it was based on an interview with
» Dr.
» » Naughton who cited the specific date I used in the thread). I have
» since
» » apologized for the error and it was not my intention to mislead anyone.
» »
» » PS: It is true that series A funding for Histogen was provided by
» American
» » investors - this money was being used up by the initial trials and
» general
» » expenses, salaries etc. (called “burn-rate” by investors). Series B,
» » however, was about to be funded in America but the investors backed out
» » once the lawsuit was announced. Histogen then had a general meeting
» among
» » the staff - and explained the situation. Most of the staff elected to
» » continue with the company despite the fear that they may not be paid.
» » Series B funding was then provided by Singaporean investors with the
» » caveat/precondition that the trials take place in their country.
» Singapore
» » is currently a hotbed for this type of research and extends to their
» » business people very good tax incentives to develop this market further.
»
» »
» » In the future I will take my own advice (keep my own council) and make
» no
» » further postings on this subject.
» »
» » TE
And now Spanish Guy? We all apologised our Asses to tiny stars. Even TE wasnt sure about his infos so what.
WHat are we discussing now?
I dont care who is funding what all i care about is hair nothing more
Thank you all for the apologies. When I originally posted my comments re: Investors in Singapore (not on this site, by the way,) it was to solicit information about the pending lawsuit - not in order to get into a pissing match about who the round B investors are (quite frankly who cares about the nationality of the investors in question?). Since I started noticing my hairloss I have tried to arm myself with the best information about what I could do about it. I committed this plan to paper and then chose my favorite option(s).
I looked at HT and, especially the FUE method of transplantation - which, in my opinion, looks like the best of the surgical options - provided that the doctor has excellent credentials and past clientele who are willing to see you. I had a consultation with Hasson and Wong - in Vancouver, Canada (one of the best) and even met with 2 of their patients - the results and satisfaction rate of the clients I met was very good (with one client I met I frankly could not tell that he had had a HT surgery - 1 procedure with 4300 grafts - the result was great).
I read as much serious literature as I could find about lifestyle/diet (avoiding simple carbohydrates - which become sugar, exercise, supplements such as saw palmetto etc. which might help slow down the balding process) and methods for reducing everyday stress.
I looked at Proscar/Propecia/Minoxidil for their contribution to the reduction of MPB/increasing hair count (cost and convenience vs. efficacy).
Finally, I looked at the advances in the medical field (haircloning, stemcell, nuetraceuticals, you name it……) and came up with a shortlist of companies who I thought had made significant advances in this area to warrant my serious consideration (Follica, Histogen and others).
What I finally decided was to hit the gym 3 times a week (get back to ‘college shape’) and begin a daily regimen of a multivitamin and mineral complex (with saw palmetto, stinging nettle et al). I decided not to have a HT (for the time being) as my hairloss is not that advanced yet but I have been putting aside about $250/month (in a tax-free investment account) for the possibility that I might have one in say, 5 years time). I’ve given up simple carbs and changed my diet to incorporate about 75% fresh fruit and vegetables. In addition I have really been interested in Histogen and the results of their initial clinical trials in Honduras. I then started asking questions about Histogen (directly to the co. rep’s ) and indirectly via these forums ( I was trying very hard to gather as much ‘good’ information as I could to decide whether or not their Hair Stimulating Complex is something I might invest in (if their initial trials are any indication – then this company has produced the most significant results – based on their Honduras trials that I have seen – and trust me, I have spent hundreds of hours doing real research and educating myself on all the options) – but, this is just my opinion.
Like everyone else who is experiencing MPB there are times when I get a little down about my hairloss but I am trying very hard to gather all the facts, discard all the fiction, and make an informed decision about my prospects. I think that the diet changes, exercise and supplements have helped (but again, this is just my opinion). At the very least, the lifestyle changes I have made have resulted in collateral improvements in my regular life (I’ve lost about 8 pounds that I had put on after college, I feel more relaxed, and, especially, I feel more optimistic in general because I’m doing something about the whole situation). Everyone should take the time to list their situation on paper, decide on a course of action, and start taking steps towards it. Even if your choice/s are wrong you will feel better because you took action and did the best you could with whatever cards you have been dealt. I really hope that Histogen produces the results that I am looking for. In the meantime, I’m still educating myself on the subject and keeping an open mind to any new developments that might appear on the horizon.
» Thank you all for the apologies. When I originally posted my comments re:
» Investors in Singapore (not on this site, by the way,) it was to solicit
» information about the pending lawsuit - not in order to get into a pissing
» match about who the round B investors are (quite frankly who cares about
» the nationality of the investors in question?). Since I started noticing my
» hairloss I have tried to arm myself with the best information about what I
» could do about it. I committed this plan to paper and then chose my
» favorite option(s).
»
» 1) I looked at HT and, especially the FUE method of transplantation -
» which, in my opinion, looks like the best of the surgical options -
» provided that the doctor has excellent credentials and past clientele who
» are willing to see you. I had a consultation with Hasson and Wong - in
» Vancouver, Canada (one of the best) and even met with 2 of their patients -
» the results and satisfaction rate of the clients I met was very good (with
» one client I met I frankly could not tell that he had had a HT surgery - 1
» procedure with 4300 grafts - the result was great).
»
» 2) I read as much serious literature as I could find about lifestyle/diet
» (avoiding simple carbohydrates - which become sugar, exercise, supplements
» such as saw palmetto etc. which might help slow down the balding process)
» and methods for reducing everyday stress.
»
» 3) I looked at Proscar/Propecia/Minoxidil for their contribution to the
» reduction of MPB/increasing hair count (cost and convenience vs.
» efficacy).
»
» 4) Finally, I looked at the advances in the medical field (haircloning,
» stemcell, nuetraceuticals, you name it……) and came up with a shortlist
» of companies who I thought had made significant advances in this area to
» warrant my serious consideration (Follica, Histogen and others).
»
» What I finally decided was to hit the gym 3 times a week (get back to
» ‘college shape’) and begin a daily regimen of a multivitamin and mineral
» complex (with saw palmetto, stinging nettle et al). I decided not to have
» a HT (for the time being) as my hairloss is not that advanced yet but I
» have been putting aside about $250/month (in a tax-free investment account)
» for the possibility that I might have one in say, 5 years time). I’ve
» given up simple carbs and changed my diet to incorporate about 75% fresh
» fruit and vegetables. In addition I have really been interested in
» Histogen and the results of their initial clinical trials in Honduras. I
» then started asking questions about Histogen (directly to the co. rep’s )
» and indirectly via these forums ( I was trying very hard to gather as much
» ‘good’ information as I could to decide whether or not their Hair
» Stimulating Complex is something I might invest in (if their initial trials
» are any indication – then this company has produced the most significant
» results – based on their Honduras trials that I have seen – and trust me, I
» have spent hundreds of hours doing real research and educating myself on
» all the options) – but, this is just my opinion.
»
» Like everyone else who is experiencing MPB there are times when I get a
» little down about my hairloss but I am trying very hard to gather all the
» facts, discard all the fiction, and make an informed decision about my
» prospects. I think that the diet changes, exercise and supplements have
» helped (but again, this is just my opinion). At the very least, the
» lifestyle changes I have made have resulted in collateral improvements in
» my regular life (I’ve lost about 8 pounds that I had put on after college,
» I feel more relaxed, and, especially, I feel more optimistic in general
» because I’m doing something about the whole situation). Everyone should
» take the time to list their situation on paper, decide on a course of
» action, and start taking steps towards it. Even if your choice/s are wrong
» you will feel better because you took action and did the best you could
» with whatever cards you have been dealt. I really hope that Histogen
» produces the results that I am looking for. In the meantime, I’m still
» educating myself on the subject and keeping an open mind to any new
» developments that might appear on the horizon.
»
» Good luck to you all
»
» TE
» Thank you all for the apologies. When I originally posted my comments re:
» Investors in Singapore (not on this site, by the way,) it was to solicit
» information about the pending lawsuit - not in order to get into a pissing
» match about who the round B investors are (quite frankly who cares about
» the nationality of the investors in question?). Since I started noticing my
» hairloss I have tried to arm myself with the best information about what I
» could do about it. I committed this plan to paper and then chose my
» favorite option(s).
»
» 1) I looked at HT and, especially the FUE method of transplantation -
» which, in my opinion, looks like the best of the surgical options -
» provided that the doctor has excellent credentials and past clientele who
» are willing to see you. I had a consultation with Hasson and Wong - in
» Vancouver, Canada (one of the best) and even met with 2 of their patients -
» the results and satisfaction rate of the clients I met was very good (with
» one client I met I frankly could not tell that he had had a HT surgery - 1
» procedure with 4300 grafts - the result was great).
»
» 2) I read as much serious literature as I could find about lifestyle/diet
» (avoiding simple carbohydrates - which become sugar, exercise, supplements
» such as saw palmetto etc. which might help slow down the balding process)
» and methods for reducing everyday stress.
»
» 3) I looked at Proscar/Propecia/Minoxidil for their contribution to the
» reduction of MPB/increasing hair count (cost and convenience vs.
» efficacy).
»
» 4) Finally, I looked at the advances in the medical field (haircloning,
» stemcell, nuetraceuticals, you name it……) and came up with a shortlist
» of companies who I thought had made significant advances in this area to
» warrant my serious consideration (Follica, Histogen and others).
»
» What I finally decided was to hit the gym 3 times a week (get back to
» ‘college shape’) and begin a daily regimen of a multivitamin and mineral
» complex (with saw palmetto, stinging nettle et al). I decided not to have
» a HT (for the time being) as my hairloss is not that advanced yet but I
» have been putting aside about $250/month (in a tax-free investment account)
» for the possibility that I might have one in say, 5 years time). I’ve
» given up simple carbs and changed my diet to incorporate about 75% fresh
» fruit and vegetables. In addition I have really been interested in
» Histogen and the results of their initial clinical trials in Honduras. I
» then started asking questions about Histogen (directly to the co. rep’s )
» and indirectly via these forums ( I was trying very hard to gather as much
» ‘good’ information as I could to decide whether or not their Hair
» Stimulating Complex is something I might invest in (if their initial trials
» are any indication – then this company has produced the most significant
» results – based on their Honduras trials that I have seen – and trust me, I
» have spent hundreds of hours doing real research and educating myself on
» all the options) – but, this is just my opinion.
»
» Like everyone else who is experiencing MPB there are times when I get a
» little down about my hairloss but I am trying very hard to gather all the
» facts, discard all the fiction, and make an informed decision about my
» prospects. I think that the diet changes, exercise and supplements have
» helped (but again, this is just my opinion). At the very least, the
» lifestyle changes I have made have resulted in collateral improvements in
» my regular life (I’ve lost about 8 pounds that I had put on after college,
» I feel more relaxed, and, especially, I feel more optimistic in general
» because I’m doing something about the whole situation). Everyone should
» take the time to list their situation on paper, decide on a course of
» action, and start taking steps towards it. Even if your choice/s are wrong
» you will feel better because you took action and did the best you could
» with whatever cards you have been dealt. I really hope that Histogen
» produces the results that I am looking for. In the meantime, I’m still
» educating myself on the subject and keeping an open mind to any new
» developments that might appear on the horizon.
»
» Good luck to you all
»
» TE
This, does not deserve a new thread, so that’s why am posting it here.
Everyone who considers having a FUE these days must have the same puzzle in mind.
I was reading the last interview Cotsarelis gave back in 2009. He said that within 5 years it is quite possible for follica to have developed a marketable technique.(i know it will be always 5 years away , but whatever).
That means 2014 is the year aderans, histogen and follica are predicting as the year of their product launching.It is obvious that we are talking about a race here.
So far it is pretty clear that Aderans’ technique will still work for patients who have already had a hair transplant. But what about the two others?
Correct me if i am wrong here, but i am not sure if histogen ever claimed that their approach will benefit people who had HT in the past. In my mind Histogen will be regenerating the pattern of follicles which already exists on our heads.So, if this pattern is f**d up by a hair transplant doc, then it seems unclear that histogen will be able to work on this.
Follica is another story , but still, i have a lot of questions about the same issue. I can not see why follica’s technique wont work on a head that had a HT in the past, but at the same time the only that i can think of , is that for follica’s it would much easier to be “applied” on a area with the same rate of thinning.Whatever, i am sure some of you guys have already fully understood follica’s and histogen’s processes, and will be able to give a straight answer to my concern.In other words my concern is, if it is quite clever for someone to go for a ht nowadays having in mind that by doing that may destroy some of his chances for a better future cure.Plus the money issue. HT costs a lot of money , and for the majority of the cases, must be repeated sometime in the future. So, if someone goes for a transplant now, he has to pay for his Ht and if HM will be available in the meantime the same guy has to pay again for his HM procedure later on.
In other words Aderans seems to be more appropriate concept for a smoother transition from the HT world to the new HM one.
So, if this pattern is f**d up by a hair transplant doc, then
» it seems unclear that histogen will be able to work on this.
» Follica is another story , but still, i have a lot of questions about the
» same issue. I can not see why follica’s technique wont work on a head that
» had a HT in the past, but at the same time the only that i can think of ,
» is that for follica’s it would much easier to be “applied” on a area with
» the same rate of thinning.Whatever, i am sure some of you guys have already
» fully understood follica’s and histogen’s processes, and will be able to
» give a straight answer to my concern.In other words my concern is, if it is
» quite clever for someone to go for a ht nowadays having in mind that by
» doing that may destroy some of his chances for a better future cure.Plus
» the money issue. HT costs a lot of money , and for the majority of the
» cases, must be repeated sometime in the future. So, if someone goes for a
» transplant now, he has to pay for his Ht and if HM will be available in the
» meantime the same guy has to pay again for his HM procedure later on.
» In other words Aderans seems to be more appropriate concept for a smoother
» transition from the HT world to the new HM one.
If I were slick bald and in my 20’s or 30’s, I’d get an HT now. If not, you’re going to let the best years of your life pass you by. If I still had most of my hair and in my 20’s or 30’s, I’d wait and see. If I were somewhere in between, and hairloss was preventing me from enjoying life, I’d get an HT. If it didn’t bother me too much, I’d wait. There won’t be a “cure” on the market within 5 years. There might be one within 10, and probably within 15-20. So, it all depends on how long you can wait, and how long you’re willing to live bald.
I’m about a NW 2, but most can’t tell I’m losing my hair. I’ve been able to keep most of my hair with Niz/Rog/Dut, but its still falling out, just very slowly. At this rate, my hairloss will be obvious in about 2 to 3 years. At that time, I’ll evaluate where HM is and where it is likely to be within 5 years, and make a decision. If it looks like its just around the corner, I’ll wait. If Histogen and Aderans have failed, then I’ll get a good FUE.
» So, if this pattern is f**d up by a hair transplant doc, then
» » it seems unclear that histogen will be able to work on this.
» » Follica is another story , but still, i have a lot of questions about
» the
» » same issue. I can not see why follica’s technique wont work on a head
» that
» » had a HT in the past, but at the same time the only that i can think of
» ,
» » is that for follica’s it would much easier to be “applied” on a area
» with
» » the same rate of thinning.Whatever, i am sure some of you guys have
» already
» » fully understood follica’s and histogen’s processes, and will be able
» to
» » give a straight answer to my concern.In other words my concern is, if it
» is
» » quite clever for someone to go for a ht nowadays having in mind that by
» » doing that may destroy some of his chances for a better future
» cure.Plus
» » the money issue. HT costs a lot of money , and for the majority of the
» » cases, must be repeated sometime in the future. So, if someone goes for
» a
» » transplant now, he has to pay for his Ht and if HM will be available in
» the
» » meantime the same guy has to pay again for his HM procedure later on.
» » In other words Aderans seems to be more appropriate concept for a
» smoother
» » transition from the HT world to the new HM one.
»
» If I were slick bald and in my 20’s or 30’s, I’d get an HT now. If not,
» you’re going to let the best years of your life pass you by. If I still
» had most of my hair and in my 20’s or 30’s, I’d wait and see. If I were
» somewhere in between, and hairloss was preventing me from enjoying life,
» I’d get an HT. If it didn’t bother me too much, I’d wait. There won’t be
» a “cure” on the market within 5 years. There might be one within 10, and
» probably within 15-20. So, it all depends on how long you can wait, and
» how long you’re willing to live bald.
»
» I’m about a NW 2, but most can’t tell I’m losing my hair. I’ve been able
» to keep most of my hair with Niz/Rog/Dut, but its still falling out, just
» very slowly. At this rate, my hairloss will be obvious in about 2 to 3
» years. At that time, I’ll evaluate where HM is and where it is likely to
» be within 5 years, and make a decision. If it looks like its just around
» the corner, I’ll wait. If Histogen and Aderans have failed, then I’ll get
» a good FUE.
Strange i said exactly those things any you flamed me…well well well interesting how the tides are turning here.
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