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#1

From what i understand Histogen plans to introduce its Hair Stimulating Complex in Asia (Excluding japan) in 2013.

Is it possible should funding go smoothely and with increasing competition from from Allergens new Clinical Trials of Latisse for baldness, Follicas recent annoucnemnt by Dr. Cotsarelis on the cause of Baldness, Berlin Institute of Technologies recent announcement of being the first to create a hair follicle in vitro, Acell Extracellular Matrix for Hair Multiplication with plucked hairs, etc. that clinical trials will be sped up so that we may have an introduction of the HSC in Asia before 2013?


#2

» From what i understand Histogen plans to introduce its Hair Stimulating
» Complex in Asia (Excluding japan) in 2013.
»
» Is it possible should funding go smoothely and with increasing competition
» from from Allergens new Clinical Trials of Latisse for baldness, Follicas
» recent annoucnemnt by Dr. Cotsarelis on the cause of Baldness, Berlin
» Institute of Technologies recent announcement of being the first to create
» a hair follicle in vitro, Acell Extracellular Matrix for Hair
» Multiplication with plucked hairs, etc. that clinical trials will be sped
» up so that we may have an introduction of the HSC in Asia before 2013?

No. The world doesn’t work that way.

The regulatory agencies don’t care if your competitors are making progress.


#3

I think we will see something in the next three years thats for sure, we are allready seeing something by some doctors.

I dont know if what we will see will work like its supposed to. What if these boards change and instead of talking transplants and seeing pics of patients we will be talking stemcell, growth factors and wounding procedures which might work well for some not for others. Others will be happy others not so happy others completely dissapointed and so on.

What if for some the follicles stay on for a year and then they start to die again from DHT and we will have repetitive procedures or i dont know what.

Maybe we wont have scars and waiting for months to go out of the house but i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe and if we should give our hard earned money.


#4

» I think we will see something in the next three years thats for sure, we
» are allready seeing something by some doctors.
»
» I dont know if what we will see will work like its supposed to. What if
» these boards change and instead of talking transplants and seeing pics of
» patients we will be talking stemcell, growth factors and wounding
» procedures which might work well for some not for others. Others will be
» happy others not so happy others completely dissapointed and so on.
»
» What if for some the follicles stay on for a year and then they start to
» die again from DHT and we will have repetitive procedures or i dont know
» what.
»
» Maybe we wont have scars and waiting for months to go out of the house but
» i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe and if
» we should give our hard earned money.

I think Histogen is the answer for guys with hair loss like mine, a diffuse pattern with the majority of follicles intact but miniturizing. I’m on propecia maintaining my hair but I think Histogen is my holy grail personally… I wish it could come before 2013 but there are a processes for clinical trails as mentioned by someone else in this thread BUT on the flipside I do think with all the emerging technologies now and all the talk about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up the pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.


#5

#6

» » I think we will see something in the next three years thats for sure, we
» » are allready seeing something by some doctors.
» »
» » I dont know if what we will see will work like its supposed to. What if
» » these boards change and instead of talking transplants and seeing pics
» of
» » patients we will be talking stemcell, growth factors and wounding
» » procedures which might work well for some not for others. Others will be
» » happy others not so happy others completely dissapointed and so on.
» »
» » What if for some the follicles stay on for a year and then they start to
» » die again from DHT and we will have repetitive procedures or i dont know
» » what.
» »
» » Maybe we wont have scars and waiting for months to go out of the house
» but
» » i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe and
» if
» » we should give our hard earned money.
»
» I think Histogen is the answer for guys with hair loss like mine, a diffuse
» pattern with the majority of follicles intact but miniturizing. I’m on
» propecia maintaining my hair but I think Histogen is my holy grail
» personally… I wish it could come before 2013 but there are a processes
» for clinical trails as mentioned by someone else in this thread BUT on the
» flipside I do think with all the emerging technologies now and all the talk
» about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to
» feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up the
» pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists
» quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.

I think they should make it avail now, or right after one more trial, in some country where approval is not necessary, but i don’t think they will. If they do then they will be the first NEW important treatment and we will all go for it but if they delay then a competitor could become our number one. The important thing is to be the first off the mark with the new treatment and Histogen needs to understand this but I don’t think they do. Customer loyalty is important and you don’t get customer loyalty by delaying launch. They have already done delays and I’m annoyed with them about it already.


#7

» http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-business/pharma-8217s-4-best-shots-at-a-cure-for-baldness/7047

Seems this guy perfectly DID his own homework (i.e. I’ve similar thoughts about).

Interestingly, I didn’t mention anything about ACell …


#8

» »
» http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-business/pharma-8217s-4-best-shots-at-a-cure-for-baldness/7047
»
» Seems this guy perfectly DID his own homework (i.e. I’ve similar thoughts
» about).
»
» Interestingly, I didn’t mention anything about ACell …

Or Dr. Gho maybe he is like the english breakfast lol


#9

» » »
» »
» http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-business/pharma-8217s-4-best-shots-at-a-cure-for-baldness/7047
» »
» » Seems this guy perfectly DID his own homework (i.e. I’ve similar
» thoughts
» » about).
» »
» » Interestingly, I didn’t mention anything about ACell …
»
»
» Or Dr. Gho maybe he is like the english breakfast lol

The author is CLEARLY (headline) talking about “Pharma’s 4 Best Shots at a Cure for Baldness”.

Actually, I didn’t know that guys like you consider Dr. Ghos HAIR TRANSPLANTATION TECHNIQUE “HST” as “pharmaceutical product”. LOL


#10

» »
» http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-business/pharma-8217s-4-best-shots-at-a-cure-for-baldness/7047
»
» Seems this guy perfectly DID his own homework (i.e. I’ve similar thoughts
» about).
»
» Interestingly, I didn’t mention anything about ACell …

Oops, typing mistake: Actually I meant HE, the author, "didn’t …


#11

» about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to
» feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up the
» pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists
» quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.

if things go the way Gho does his research, we are going to be sitting here in 2020 even balder than we are today… with nothing to show except a stack of useless studies, claims and papers.


#12

» » about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to
» » feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up
» the
» » pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists
» » quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.
»
» if things go the way Gho does his research, we are going to be sitting here
» in 2020 even balder than we are today… with nothing to show except a stack
» of useless studies, claims and papers.

Are you able to PROVE your claims?

Sometimes you sound as silly like Dr. Rassman - especially when it comes to “Hair Cloning” or “Propetia” or “Rogaine” … I mean, lots of incompetent claims.


#13

»
» Actually, I didn’t know that guys like you consider Dr. Ghos HAIR
» TRANSPLANTATION TECHNIQUE “HST” as “pharmaceutical product”. LOL

No we consider him to be in the same category with the english breakfast the article mentions :smiley:


#14

» » »
» »
» http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-business/pharma-8217s-4-best-shots-at-a-cure-for-baldness/7047
» »
» » Seems this guy perfectly DID his own homework (i.e. I’ve similar
» thoughts
» » about).
» »
» » Interestingly, I didn’t mention anything about
» ACell …
»
» Oops, typing mistake: Actually I meant HE, the
» author, "didn’t …

Are you sure it was a typing mistake, maybe its all part of the dellusional trip that you are on LMAO…dude dont let all this googling get to your head it starts by thinking you are the only source of information and it might end with you coming one day here thinking you are Cotsarelis :smiley:


#15

i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe and if we should give our hard earned money.

So, much like now in fact :slight_smile:


#16

» Are you sure it was a typing mistake, maybe its all part of the dellusional
» trip that you are on LMAO…dude dont let all this googling get to your
» head it starts by thinking you are the only source of information and it

Is there someone else?

» might end with you coming one day here thinking you are Cotsarelis :smiley:

Funny that you bring that up:
Unfortunately, Cotsarelis is NOT IronMan. Sure, I can prove that. Should I do it?


#17

Any information on how ACell is progressing, I assume there have been some new cases used in the testing of its effectiveness?


#18

» » I think we will see something in the next three years thats for sure, we
» » are allready seeing something by some doctors.
» »
» » I dont know if what we will see will work like its supposed to. What if
» » these boards change and instead of talking transplants and seeing pics
» of
» » patients we will be talking stemcell, growth factors and wounding
» » procedures which might work well for some not for others. Others will be
» » happy others not so happy others completely dissapointed and so on.
» »
» » What if for some the follicles stay on for a year and then they start to
» » die again from DHT and we will have repetitive procedures or i dont know
» » what.
» »
» » Maybe we wont have scars and waiting for months to go out of the house
» but
» » i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe and
» if
» » we should give our hard earned money.
»
» I think Histogen is the answer for guys with hair loss like mine, a diffuse
» pattern with the majority of follicles intact but miniturizing. I’m on
» propecia maintaining my hair but I think Histogen is my holy grail
» personally… I wish it could come before 2013 but there are a processes
» for clinical trails as mentioned by someone else in this thread BUT on the
» flipside I do think with all the emerging technologies now and all the talk
» about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to
» feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up the
» pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists
» quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.

every day histogen spends in trails rather than marketing a product costs them ALOT of money. Im sure they are already doing everything possible to keep the time to a minimum, i really doubt there is any room in the schedule to push this product forward by even a few months.


#19

» » » I think we will see something in the next three years thats for sure,
» we
» » » are allready seeing something by some doctors.
» » »
» » » I dont know if what we will see will work like its supposed to. What
» if
» » » these boards change and instead of talking transplants and seeing pics
» » of
» » » patients we will be talking stemcell, growth factors and wounding
» » » procedures which might work well for some not for others. Others will
» be
» » » happy others not so happy others completely dissapointed and so on.
» » »
» » » What if for some the follicles stay on for a year and then they start
» to
» » » die again from DHT and we will have repetitive procedures or i dont
» know
» » » what.
» » »
» » » Maybe we wont have scars and waiting for months to go out of the house
» » but
» » » i think we will have ups and downs and not knowning what to believe
» and
» » if
» » » we should give our hard earned money.
» »
» » I think Histogen is the answer for guys with hair loss like mine, a
» diffuse
» » pattern with the majority of follicles intact but miniturizing. I’m on
» » propecia maintaining my hair but I think Histogen is my holy grail
» » personally… I wish it could come before 2013 but there are a
» processes
» » for clinical trails as mentioned by someone else in this thread BUT on
» the
» » flipside I do think with all the emerging technologies now and all the
» talk
» » about cloning, stem cells and growth factors, I think they will start to
» » feel more of a sense of urgency to get it done so maybe they’ll step up
» the
» » pace a little and work a bit faster for example, try to find trailists
» » quicker and get people enrolled faster to move things forward.
»
»
» I think they should make it avail now, or right after one more trial, in
» some country where approval is not necessary, but i don’t think they will.
» If they do then they will be the first NEW important treatment and we will
» all go for it but if they delay then a competitor could become our number
» one. The important thing is to be the first off the mark with the new
» treatment and Histogen needs to understand this but I don’t think they do.
» Customer loyalty is important and you don’t get customer loyalty by
» delaying launch. They have already done delays and I’m annoyed with them
» about it already.

lol i kinda doubt histogen cares about customor loyalty or if you are “already annoyed with them”. Even if they delay a product which actually works 15x i’m sure we’ll all be standing in a queue to get this treatment. The best way to gain loyalty is by marketing something that works.


#20

So when do they start their trails? When do we get another update??