Hangin regimen , my history, pics etc

Supplements for hair loss
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» Going all out, thanks for the great advice. Im 20 years old… Is taking Sp
» and beta pretty safe? If I take BETA whats a good Dosage? Hangin told me
» that he got alot of itching at high dosages, I want to take a small
» dosage, and how beneficial was it with SP? My sp is that country life SP
» and African Pygeum at 320MG a day.

The only things that I think may be unsafe about it are effects on your libido – which go away the minute you stop taking it – and the dizziness that overdoing it causes some people. Otherwise, I don’t think so. Look at Hangin’s regime for the BetaSis quantities. He signs every posting with his regime.

If you are 20, I’d do the following:

  1. Order Nizoral Cream and start using it every day.
  2. Think about going on an industrial grade, non-natural DHT blocker esp. Dutasteride.
  3. Get the vitamins that have been recommended.
  4. Rogaine/Minoxidol?

I am 43. When I was 20 I had no sign of hair loss and didn’t until my 30s really. So, I hate to tell you that you are at a disadvantage if your hair loss is already significant in that your genes seem to be worse against you than mine are against me. On the other hand, though, most remedies (and Nizoral Cream in particular) apparently work better when one is young. I am trying Nizoral Cream even though I know it doesn’t work as well with older gents.

Good luck.

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I didnt like rogaine, I used it for two weeks and It felt as if way too many hairs were falling out, plus i heard alot of bad stuff about it so I stopped it.

Why do you recommend DUT? I heard the DUT side effects are really bad compared to the naturals like Saw palmetto. My hair loss isnt that bad, Ive lost alot of hair and am starting to develop a small crown but the hair on the top is all thin all over.

Heres a pic, i used myspace to uplaod it.

http://a359.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_0f853a2d98cbb896b957a555fb083196.jpg

I also have alot of dandruff/itching so Im using a natural shampoo tha thas 1% pyrithone zinc, and extracts from (nettle, pine, burdoc, chamoile, rosemary, lime, cornflower)

Will adding Seperate MSM help thicken the hair? I really want the thin hairs I have to become thick while they can.

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» I didnt like rogaine, I used it for two weeks and It felt as if way too
» many hairs were falling out, plus i heard alot of bad stuff about it so I
» stopped it.
»
» Why do you recommend DUT? I heard the DUT side effects are really bad
» compared to the naturals like Saw palmetto. My hair loss isnt that bad,
» Ive lost alot of hair and am starting to develop a small crown but the
» hair on the top is all thin all over.
»
» Heres a pic, i used myspace to uplaod it.
»
» http://a359.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_0f853a2d98cbb896b957a555fb083196.jpg
»
» I also have alot of dandruff/itching so Im using a natural shampoo tha
» thas 1% pyrithone zinc, and extracts from (nettle, pine, burdoc, chamoile,
» rosemary, lime, cornflower)
»
» Will adding Seperate MSM help thicken the hair? I really want the thin
» hairs I have to become thick while they can.

MSM does not help miniaturized hairs, it helps the hair that is normal appear more vibrant, I felt my hair looked like silk when i was using it, there is a study somewhere out there that hair dressers could tell who was using MSM, its more for hair health but not revitalizing bald miniaturized hair

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Hangin, I think you mentioned earlier that you can stay off of your regimin for a whle and still be good? How is that? Is that because you have taken the Beta?

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» Hangin, I think you mentioned earlier that you can stay off of your
» regimin for a whle and still be good? How is that? Is that because you
» have taken the Beta?

I have been off my regimen for about 4 weeks now, I stopped due to eye irritation that I have concluded is likely unrelated. Its been 4 weeks and only today is the scalp itching returned enough that I will start it again today. The beta-sit seems to be the ingredient that stops the itching for me. Once I am on the regimen for 2 days the itching generly stops.

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Crysanthemum… What is the dosage of Beta your taking? I want to get on the lowest dosage possible, because Im willing to give anything a try. Right now Im only taking SP with Pygeum Nettles and hair vitamins and minerals. I still have itching on my scalp and I have dandruff. I think I might even have scallops, if they are the crumbs that fall out of where Im thinning. Im using a good shampoo but every day from the same area, 20 hairs are falling out.

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» Crysanthemum… What is the dosage of Beta your taking? I want to get on
» the lowest dosage possible, because Im willing to give anything a try.
» Right now Im only taking SP with Pygeum Nettles and hair vitamins and
» minerals. I still have itching on my scalp and I have dandruff. I think I
» might even have scallops, if they are the crumbs that fall out of where Im
» thinning. Im using a good shampoo but every day from the same area, 20
» hairs are falling out.

Based on the thread, I’d say that Chrysanthemum is Hangin’. Wonder why he uses two different handles, hmmm. So anyway, Hangin’s Beta dosage is in his response.

I have read that pyrithione zinc dandruff shampoo or however it is spelled minitaurizes hair. You should use Nizoral shampoo (use it no more than every few days because it’s harsh) or use Nizoral cream.

Yes, Dutasteride has stronger effects than SP, so it’s a question of what the particular effects are with you and whether you think it is worthwhile to take it.

I will tell you that you should act now strongly to find out what works with your hair loss because if you are thinning now at the age of 20, it’s only going to get worse. That was my point.

The usual Beta dose is around 120mg.

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» » Crysanthemum… What is the dosage of Beta your taking? I want to get on
» » the lowest dosage possible, because Im willing to give anything a try.
» » Right now Im only taking SP with Pygeum Nettles and hair vitamins and
» » minerals. I still have itching on my scalp and I have dandruff. I think
» I
» » might even have scallops, if they are the crumbs that fall out of where
» Im
» » thinning. Im using a good shampoo but every day from the same area, 20
» » hairs are falling out.
»
» Based on the thread, I’d say that Chrysanthemum is Hangin’. Wonder why he
» uses two different handles, hmmm. So anyway, Hangin’s Beta dosage is in
» his response.
»
» I have read that pyrithione zinc dandruff shampoo or however it is spelled
» minitaurizes hair. You should use Nizoral shampoo (use it no more than
» every few days because it’s harsh) or use Nizoral cream.
»
» Yes, Dutasteride has stronger effects than SP, so it’s a question of what
» the particular effects are with you and whether you think it is worthwhile
» to take it.
»
» I will tell you that you should act now strongly to find out what works
» with your hair loss because if you are thinning now at the age of 20, it’s
» only going to get worse. That was my point.
»
» The usual Beta dose is around 120mg.

I guess that is one of problems… I have been mislead. I thought that the hydrocloric acid thats in H&S was the reason why hair thinns and falls out… Butmaybe its the ZINC too. Do you recommend the Nizoral shampoo? What about natural Tea Tree shampoo or Aloe Vera, or Herbal essences… The Pyrithine ZINC shampoo that I am using stopps the itching for aday… And it has all natural ingreidants, laterIll list them for you. So which is the best you recommend, I think hangin doesnt recommend the shampoo but just the cream.

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vivace67,

You can buy Nizoral cream here at this link.

http://thewebsyte.com/auctions/auction_details.php?name=Nizoral-Cream&auction_id=100094

Perry

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i use only one nick :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Today I started using Nioxin Cleanser and Conditioner shampoo and stopped using the Pyrithone ZINC. Feels good so far, absolutely no itch or dandruff all day long.
Here are the ingrediants, is there anything that is harmful to hair?

Aqua/Water, Tea-Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Wheat Amino Acids, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Cocamide MEA, Aloe Barbadensis, PEG-150 Distearate, Panthenol, Glycoproteins, Polysorbate-60, Polysorbate-80, Cystine BIS-PG-Propylsilanetriol, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Acetamide MEA, Propylene Glycol, Ethoxydiglycol, Coenzyme A, Coenzyme B5, Coenzyme B6, Coenzyme B12, Coenzyme Folate, Coenzyme Nicotinate, Coenzyme Q6-10, Coenzyme R, Coenzyme Thiamine, Achillea Millefolium, Anthemis Nobilis, Camellia Sinensis, Citrus Grandis, Dioscorea Villosa, Equisetum Arvense, Humulus Lupulus, Melissa Officinalis, Mentha Piperita, Prunus Africana, Rosmarinus Officinalis, Salvia Officinalis, Serenda Serrulata, Symphytum Officinale, Taraxacum Officinale, Thymus Vulgaris, Urita Dioca, Tocopherol, Saccharomyces/Copper Ferment, Saccharomyces/Iron Ferment, Saccharomyces/Magnesium Ferment, Saccharomyces/Silicone Ferment, Saccharomyces/Zinc Ferment, PEG-90M, Biotin, Niacin, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, C.I. 42090/Blue

Is it safe to continue using?

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» Today I started using Nioxin Cleanser and Conditioner shampoo and stopped
» using the Pyrithone ZINC. Feels good so far, absolutely no itch or
» dandruff all day long.
» Here are the ingrediants, is there anything that is harmful to hair?
»
» Aqua/Water, Tea-Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl
» Betaine, Wheat Amino Acids, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Cocamide MEA,
» Aloe Barbadensis, PEG-150 Distearate, Panthenol, Glycoproteins,
» Polysorbate-60, Polysorbate-80, Cystine BIS-PG-Propylsilanetriol,
» Hydrolyzed Keratin, Acetamide MEA, Propylene Glycol, Ethoxydiglycol,
» Coenzyme A, Coenzyme B5, Coenzyme B6, Coenzyme B12, Coenzyme Folate,
» Coenzyme Nicotinate, Coenzyme Q6-10, Coenzyme R, Coenzyme Thiamine,
» Achillea Millefolium, Anthemis Nobilis, Camellia Sinensis, Citrus Grandis,
» Dioscorea Villosa, Equisetum Arvense, Humulus Lupulus, Melissa Officinalis,
» Mentha Piperita, Prunus Africana, Rosmarinus Officinalis, Salvia
» Officinalis, Serenda Serrulata, Symphytum Officinale, Taraxacum
» Officinale, Thymus Vulgaris, Urita Dioca, Tocopherol, Saccharomyces/Copper
» Ferment, Saccharomyces/Iron Ferment, Saccharomyces/Magnesium Ferment,
» Saccharomyces/Silicone Ferment, Saccharomyces/Zinc Ferment, PEG-90M,
» Biotin, Niacin, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Citric
» Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, C.I. 42090/Blue
»
»
»
» Is it safe to continue using?

I only found it’s harmful to the pocket book.

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» » Today I started using Nioxin Cleanser and Conditioner shampoo and
» stopped
» » using the Pyrithone ZINC. Feels good so far, absolutely no itch or
» » dandruff all day long.
» » Here are the ingrediants, is there anything that is harmful to hair?
» »
» » Aqua/Water, Tea-Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl
» » Betaine, Wheat Amino Acids, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Cocamide MEA,
» » Aloe Barbadensis, PEG-150 Distearate, Panthenol, Glycoproteins,
» » Polysorbate-60, Polysorbate-80, Cystine BIS-PG-Propylsilanetriol,
» » Hydrolyzed Keratin, Acetamide MEA, Propylene Glycol, Ethoxydiglycol,
» » Coenzyme A, Coenzyme B5, Coenzyme B6, Coenzyme B12, Coenzyme Folate,
» » Coenzyme Nicotinate, Coenzyme Q6-10, Coenzyme R, Coenzyme Thiamine,
» » Achillea Millefolium, Anthemis Nobilis, Camellia Sinensis, Citrus
» Grandis,
» » Dioscorea Villosa, Equisetum Arvense, Humulus Lupulus, Melissa
» Officinalis,
» » Mentha Piperita, Prunus Africana, Rosmarinus Officinalis, Salvia
» » Officinalis, Serenda Serrulata, Symphytum Officinale, Taraxacum
» » Officinale, Thymus Vulgaris, Urita Dioca, Tocopherol,
» Saccharomyces/Copper
» » Ferment, Saccharomyces/Iron Ferment, Saccharomyces/Magnesium Ferment,
» » Saccharomyces/Silicone Ferment, Saccharomyces/Zinc Ferment, PEG-90M,
» » Biotin, Niacin, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Citric
» » Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, C.I. 42090/Blue
» »
» »
» »
» » Is it safe to continue using?
»
» I only found it’s harmful to the pocket book.

I agree but I really feels as if it is working. Ill will definatly keep you updated.

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» » » Today I started using Nioxin Cleanser and Conditioner shampoo and
» » stopped
» » » using the Pyrithone ZINC. Feels good so far, absolutely no itch or
» » » dandruff all day long.
» » » Here are the ingrediants, is there anything that is harmful to hair?
» » »
» » » Aqua/Water, Tea-Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate,
» Cocamidopropyl
» » » Betaine, Wheat Amino Acids, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Cocamide
» MEA,
» » » Aloe Barbadensis, PEG-150 Distearate, Panthenol, Glycoproteins,
» » » Polysorbate-60, Polysorbate-80, Cystine BIS-PG-Propylsilanetriol,
» » » Hydrolyzed Keratin, Acetamide MEA, Propylene Glycol, Ethoxydiglycol,
» » » Coenzyme A, Coenzyme B5, Coenzyme B6, Coenzyme B12, Coenzyme Folate,
» » » Coenzyme Nicotinate, Coenzyme Q6-10, Coenzyme R, Coenzyme Thiamine,
» » » Achillea Millefolium, Anthemis Nobilis, Camellia Sinensis, Citrus
» » Grandis,
» » » Dioscorea Villosa, Equisetum Arvense, Humulus Lupulus, Melissa
» » Officinalis,
» » » Mentha Piperita, Prunus Africana, Rosmarinus Officinalis, Salvia
» » » Officinalis, Serenda Serrulata, Symphytum Officinale, Taraxacum
» » » Officinale, Thymus Vulgaris, Urita Dioca, Tocopherol,
» » Saccharomyces/Copper
» » » Ferment, Saccharomyces/Iron Ferment, Saccharomyces/Magnesium Ferment,
» » » Saccharomyces/Silicone Ferment, Saccharomyces/Zinc Ferment, PEG-90M,
» » » Biotin, Niacin, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben,
» Citric
» » » Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, C.I. 42090/Blue
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Is it safe to continue using?
» »
» » I only found it’s harmful to the pocket book.
»
» I agree but I really feels as if it is working. Ill will definatly keep
» you updated.

Nioxin made my scalp feel really good too, and I might have said the same thing. I didn’t use it long enough to know one way or another. Except for itching perhaps, I would caution against using the “feel” test as a good sign of whether something is working for hair growth or to reduce hair loss. Others may differ and you should ask them. The proof is whether there is hair growth. This takes awhile.

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Quick question about SP.

If Saw Palmetto alone is lowering libido, ejaculation power, and interest in sex, then its working to block dht correct? In another words its working to protect hair loss and make the thinner hairs thicker right?

I can live with this crap for now, although some days it really isn’t that bad at all. Just wondering though.

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» vivace67,
»
» You can buy Nizoral cream here at this link.
»
» http://thewebsyte.com/auctions/auction_details.php?name=Nizoral-Cream&auction_id=100094
»
» Perry

I use Pharmcom without a problem ordering the Niz cream. Another option you can use.