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#1

Seeing as how I am still thinning on my current regimen, I might give it up.

I am considering taking the beta-s route. Of course, I have some concerns due to prepecia side effects I was running into when I was taking it. Cloudy head, pyffy face, dry skin (no oil) creating wrinkles, black bags uder my eyes, etc…I look much better nowadays. My libido remained intact throughout the ordeal.

Luckily, I haven’t found a single report on the internet stating anybody obtaining dry skin from taking beta-s, in fact, I found this ingredient in many a dry skin solution, which I found odd, since it reduces 5Areductase type II (spelling).

It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well, which is found in the skin.

Anyhow, my logic is if both propecia and beta-s basically have the same function, am I bound to run into the same dry skin problem?

P.S. I was an amazing responder to propecia. It was ridiculous.


#2

» Seeing as how I am still thinning on my current regimen, I might give it

milleu, what brands of supplements are you presently using?


#3

» Seeing as how I am still thinning on my current regimen, I might give it
» up.
»
» I am considering taking the beta-s route. Of course, I have some concerns
» due to prepecia side effects I was running into when I was taking it.
» Cloudy head, pyffy face, dry skin (no oil) creating wrinkles, black bags
» uder my eyes, etc…I look much better nowadays. My libido remained intact
» throughout the ordeal.
»
» Luckily, I haven’t found a single report on the internet stating anybody
» obtaining dry skin from taking beta-s, in fact, I found this ingredient in
» many a dry skin solution, which I found odd, since it reduces 5Areductase
» type II (spelling).
»
» It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well, which
» is found in the skin.
»
» Anyhow, my logic is if both propecia and beta-s basically have the same
» function, am I bound to run into the same dry skin problem?
»
» P.S. I was an amazing responder to propecia. It was ridiculous.

you just stopped prop because of dry skin?

you may respond to beta sis maybe not
but i responded to the other dht blockers in my regimen, just as well as i responded to beta sis

either you respond to naturals or you dont
if you do,
you will also respond to saw palmetto nettles pygeum, pumpkin seed, green tea and many other naturals

try a mixture of some of the weaker ones and see if you respond
beta sis is very powerful and some guys have a bit of a reaction to it, especially the higher dosages


#4

propecia and minoxidal are the only drugs that have proven to stop/grow hair…why would you even bother with substitution???


#5

» propecia and minoxidal are the only drugs that have proven to
» stop/grow hair…why would you even bother with substitution???

Because, apparently, you don’t know how to read. Or you’re an idiot.

On another note, I recall taking nettles last year but only for a month or so. I don’t think it did much. I wonder why an engineered product like prop would have more effect than its natural equivalents?

I might give beta-s a shot. We’ll see if I can handle it.

The natural, I’ve been taking your regimen. I’m getting a little thinner on top, and well, everywhere else. I still have a bit of irritation as well and have had a bad fallout lately. I doubt I’m taking too much, only jarrows. Funny thing, I stop for a few days and barely lose hair in the shower. Maybe it’s what I’ve been eating lately. Been taking it for almost 4 months now. That’s long enough to know.

I’m pretty much ready to drive the last nail in that coffin.


#6

» propecia and minoxidal are the only drugs that have proven to
» stop/grow hair…why would you even bother with substitution???

Hairsite, hurry up!

:wink:


#7

» The natural, I’ve been taking your regimen. I’m getting a little thinner
» on top, and well, everywhere else. I still have a bit of irritation as well
» and have had a bad fallout lately. I doubt I’m taking too much, only
» jarrows. Funny thing, I stop for a few days and barely lose hair in the
» shower. Maybe it’s what I’ve been eating lately. Been taking it for almost
» 4 months now. That’s long enough to know.
»
» I’m pretty much ready to drive the last nail in that coffin.

Sorry to read about that, milleu. I hope that you can find something else to at least stop your fallout. Check out Toco-8 as well.

TN


#8

what is your diet lately?


#9

»
» Because, apparently, you don’t know how to read. Or you’re an idiot.
»
I think hair loss is the least of your problems. An attitude adjustment is higher priority than hair regrowth…

Methinks that there are a lot of people on this forum that are OBSESSED with their hair loss and have nothing better to do than hyper post and flame others.

Again, propecia and minoxidol are the ONLY proven drugs for hair loss.


#10

» »
» » Because, apparently, you don’t know how to read. Or you’re an idiot.
» »
» I think hair loss is the least of your problems. An attitude adjustment is
» higher priority than hair regrowth…
»
» Methinks that there are a lot of people on this forum that are OBSESSED
» with their hair loss and have nothing better to do than hyper post and
» flame others.
»
» Again, propecia and minoxidol are the ONLY proven drugs for hair loss.
»

Are you a commissioned sales person for the drug companies


#11

» Are you a commissioned sales person for the drug companies

No - I’m in the Oil and Gas sector.


#12

» It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well, which
» is found in the skin.

You are so wrong, Propecia only blocks type II.


#13

» » It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well,
» which
» » is found in the skin.
»
» You are so wrong, Propecia only blocks type II.

Ah, I read otherwise. I suppose i could be so wrong. Not just wrong, but so wrong.

This section got raped so hard. We have all these propecia users posting in natural talks now.

“Well, why aren’t you using propecia?”

“Any natural alternatives to propecia?”
“Yes, propecia!!”

“How was your day?”
“Propecia!!”

and so on…


#14

» »
» » Because, apparently, you don’t know how to read. Or you’re an idiot.
» »
» I think hair loss is the least of your problems. An attitude adjustment is
» higher priority than hair regrowth…
»
» Methinks that there are a lot of people on this forum that are OBSESSED
» with their hair loss and have nothing better to do than hyper post and
» flame others.
»
» Again, propecia and minoxidol are the ONLY proven drugs for hair loss.
»

So which pharma company do you work for?


#15

» » » It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well,
» » which
» » » is found in the skin.
» »
» » You are so wrong, Propecia only blocks type II.
»
»
» Ah, I read otherwise. I suppose i could be so wrong. Not just wrong, but
» so wrong.
»
» This section got raped so hard. We have all these propecia users posting
» in natural talks now.
»
» “Well, why aren’t you using propecia?”
»
»
» “Any natural alternatives to propecia?”
» “Yes, propecia!!”
»
» “How was your day?”
» “Propecia!!”
»
» and so on…

those posts were made when all three forums were combined into one, remember?


#16

» » » » It seems the problem with propecia being it inhibits type I as well,
» » » which
» » » » is found in the skin.
» » »
» » » You are so wrong, Propecia only blocks type II.
» »
» »
» » Ah, I read otherwise. I suppose i could be so wrong. Not just wrong,
» but
» » so wrong.
» »
» » This section got raped so hard. We have all these propecia users
» posting
» » in natural talks now.
» »
» » “Well, why aren’t you using propecia?”
» »
» »
» » “Any natural alternatives to propecia?”
» » “Yes, propecia!!”
» »
» » “How was your day?”
» » “Propecia!!”
» »
» » and so on…
»
» those posts were made when all three forums were combined into one,
» remember?

Hmmm? Yes, I made that post when all three were combined into one as well. Had I known it was going to change again, I wouldn’t have acted like such a prick.


#17

Hi Milleu,

You might want to make your own search for Pueraria Mirifica - some posters elsewhere consider it as a safer option to fin & beta sist. You can find feedbacks & discussion on e.g. regrowth and immortalhair websites.

I am thinking of trying it myself in the future.(Note that since I am starting a family, I prefer not to change what I am taking right now, which has stabilised my hair - Maca, nettles, supplements, food w/o gluthen & diary)

Regards,

LL.


#18

» Hi Milleu,
»
» You might want to make your own search for Pueraria Mirifica - some
» posters elsewhere consider it as a safer option to fin & beta sist. You can
» find feedbacks & discussion on e.g. regrowth and immortalhair websites.
»
» I am thinking of trying it myself in the future.(Note that since I am
» starting a family, I prefer not to change what I am taking right now, which
» has stabilised my hair - Maca, nettles, supplements, food w/o gluthen &
» diary)
»
» Regards,
»
» LL.

thanks for the reply. That doesn’t sound half bad considering small chances of sides when following the intake regime, but the hair growth results don’t sound that impressive. The users on immortalhair’s replies were mostly concerning safety trials lol. Not too much talk of what it was donig to their hair. All in all, I’d say it’s a gamble…but a good one it seems.

I need to grow hair somehow without killing DHT, or a whopping 70% of it. I know lowering my DHT gives me dry skin and wrinkles. This in return makes me look older, rendering the whole maintaining-of-the-youth idea quite ironic.

This is for all you propecia pushers out there! This is why people stop taking it, because it makes them look older, perhaps feel older (especially those with lowered libido). Christ, if you get the average prop sides, you’ve just aged 20 years.

Hair isn’t the only thing that screams “youth”.

I believe I’ve went on a bit of a tangeant. Apologies.


#19

» » Hi Milleu,
» »
» » You might want to make your own search for Pueraria Mirifica - some
» » posters elsewhere consider it as a safer option to fin & beta sist. You
» can
» » find feedbacks & discussion on e.g. regrowth and immortalhair websites.
» »
» » I am thinking of trying it myself in the future.(Note that since I am
» » starting a family, I prefer not to change what I am taking right now,
» which
» » has stabilised my hair - Maca, nettles, supplements, food w/o gluthen &
» » diary)
» »
» » Regards,
» »
» » LL.
»
» thanks for the reply. That doesn’t sound half bad considering small
» chances of sides when following the intake regime, but the hair growth
» results don’t sound that impressive. The users on immortalhair’s replies
» were mostly concerning safety trials lol. Not too much talk of what it was
» donig to their hair. All in all, I’d say it’s a gamble…but a good one it
» seems.
»
» I need to grow hair somehow without killing DHT, or a whopping 70% of it.
» I know lowering my DHT gives me dry skin and wrinkles. This in return makes
» me look older, rendering the whole maintaining-of-the-youth idea quite
» ironic.
»
» This is for all you propecia pushers out there! This is why people stop
» taking it, because it makes them look older, perhaps feel older (especially
» those with lowered libido). Christ, if you get the average prop sides,
» you’ve just aged 20 years.
»
» Hair isn’t the only thing that screams “youth”.
»
» I believe I’ve went on a bit of a tangeant. Apologies.

I guess most of immortalhair posters who have tried PM have already been under a very good regimen before its use, hence its effect were minimal on them (e.g. nidhogge)

Just by curiosity, did you add something to your regimen when using DHT inhibitors for the side effects? e.g. libido-wise, maca’s result has been impressive - in my mid-30s after a few weeks I fell like 20 again with the minimum dose.

To say the truth, I also believe it is better to have a shave head but look younger & sportive than wrinkled with a full head of hair. That’s also why I change the diet (specifically healthy oils, completely cut sugar/milk/gluthen, eat more vegs/protein/healthy nuts, etc) rather than adding too many DHT inhibitors. And if one day HM arrives, we’ll be the winners :slight_smile:


#20

i don’t have much to add, except this is what has been helping me: naturalcrown. you could put that into your mix and see what happens. after 3 months, i got the results i was looking for. it’s a mineral approach, not sure if you’re into that?

I couldn’t take Propecia, not only did it dry my skin, it screwed me up, my partner was unhappy…