» » » » » » What do you mean there is no correct way of charging for a HT ?
» » » What
» » » » is
» » » » » » wrong with charging based on # of hairs? I agree with the other
» » » » posters,
» » » » » it
» » » » » » makes more sense than charing based on # of grafts.
» » » » »
» » » » » It would be WAY cheaper to charge per graft. A graft is a graft
» and
» » » you
» » » » » would pay say $5/graft, 1, 2, 3. But if you charged per hair, the
» » » cost
» » » » » would be $5/single, $10/double, $15/tripple.
» » » »
» » » » I disagree. I don’t think you understand the essence of the debate
» » » here.
» » » » Why in your example the price for per hair and per graft are the
» » same?
» » » If
» » » » the doctor is charging per hair, the price will have to come down
» to
» » » make
» » » » sense.
» » »
» » » Exactly. If normal price is $5 per graft and on average each graft
» has
» » 2.5
» » » hairs, then the price per hair shall be $2.0, when someone has 3000
» » grafts
» » » done for the hairline which contains only 1 hair graft, he will be
» » paying
» » » $6000 instead of $15,000, he would be overpaying by $9000 or 250%
» » more
» » » !!!
» »
» » That’s outrageous, only hair transplant consultants will convince
» people
» » that paying by the graft is fair.
»
» In essence, this debate may be based on the variable that each patient
» could benefit on the number of transplanted grafts/hairs based on a given
» patient’s degree of hair loss and donor area characteristics. If a surgeon
» observes that a Norwood 3’s recipeint area requires more larger grafts than
» smaller hair grafts then a the patient having lesser hair loss may benefit
» less than the patient having a higher class of hair loss. Hypothetically,
» a NW4 patient would obtain a better price per graft than a Norwood 2
» patient needing finer follicular units that typically contain single hair
» grafts.
»
» It’s possible to have this pricing structure standardized but it is very
» difficult to implement as no one donor is the same. Some coarser single
» hair grafts can provide more coverage value than a patient who has larger
» FUs of a lessor caliper.
»
»
» This standardized pricing system is seen more in-depth when you consider
» that most strips are removed from the donor based on the best donor region
» of the donor area. After the strip is removed, the patient gets an unknown
» amount of grafts/hairs FUE is removed as the donor supply is examined
» throughout the “safe zone” and the strongest FUs ( 1-5 hair grafts) may or
» may not benefit a given patient by providing more coverage value based on
» the the demand in the recipient area. Remember that almost every patient
» has a certain percentage of 1 to 5 hair FUs
»
» Theses are just conditions to consider, that’s all. The honest
» in-person consultation will tell most of the story about what amount of
» grafts/hairs should be placed on a patient’s recipient area(s)based on hair
» characteristics and analysis of hair on the donor and recipient areas.
»
»
Just one question. Why can’t the doctor charge by the # of hair?
» » » » » » » What do you mean there is no correct way of charging for a HT ?
»
» » » » What
» » » » » is
» » » » » » » wrong with charging based on # of hairs? I agree with the
» other
» » » » » posters,
» » » » » » it
» » » » » » » makes more sense than charing based on # of grafts.
» » » » » »
» » » » » » It would be WAY cheaper to charge per graft. A graft is a graft
» » and
» » » » you
» » » » » » would pay say $5/graft, 1, 2, 3. But if you charged per hair,
» the
» » » » cost
» » » » » » would be $5/single, $10/double, $15/tripple.
» » » » »
» » » » » I disagree. I don’t think you understand the essence of the
» debate
» » » » here.
» » » » » Why in your example the price for per hair and per graft are the
» » » same?
» » » » If
» » » » » the doctor is charging per hair, the price will have to come down
» » to
» » » » make
» » » » » sense.
» » » »
» » » » Exactly. If normal price is $5 per graft and on average each graft
» » has
» » » 2.5
» » » » hairs, then the price per hair shall be $2.0, when someone has 3000
» » » grafts
» » » » done for the hairline which contains only 1 hair graft, he will be
» » » paying
» » » » $6000 instead of $15,000, he would be overpaying by $9000 or
» 250%
» » » more
» » » » !!!
» » »
» » » That’s outrageous, only hair transplant consultants will convince
» » people
» » » that paying by the graft is fair.
» »
» » In essence, this debate may be based on the variable that each patient
» » could benefit on the number of transplanted grafts/hairs based on a
» given
» » patient’s degree of hair loss and donor area characteristics. If a
» surgeon
» » observes that a Norwood 3’s recipeint area requires more larger grafts
» than
» » smaller hair grafts then a the patient having lesser hair loss may
» benefit
» » less than the patient having a higher class of hair loss.
» Hypothetically,
» » a NW4 patient would obtain a better price per graft than a Norwood 2
» » patient needing finer follicular units that typically contain single
» hair
» » grafts.
» »
» » It’s possible to have this pricing structure standardized but it is
» very
» » difficult to implement as no one donor is the same. Some coarser single
» » hair grafts can provide more coverage value than a patient who has
» larger
» » FUs of a lessor caliper.
» »
» »
» » This standardized pricing system is seen more in-depth when you
» consider
» » that most strips are removed from the donor based on the best donor
» region
» » of the donor area. After the strip is removed, the patient gets an
» unknown
» » amount of grafts/hairs FUE is removed as the donor supply is examined
» » throughout the “safe zone” and the strongest FUs ( 1-5 hair grafts) may
» or
» » may not benefit a given patient by providing more coverage value based
» on
» » the the demand in the recipient area. Remember that almost every
» patient
» » has a certain percentage of 1 to 5 hair FUs
» »
» » Theses are just conditions to consider, that’s all. The honest
» » in-person consultation will tell most of the story about what amount of
» » grafts/hairs should be placed on a patient’s recipient area(s)based on
» hair
» » characteristics and analysis of hair on the donor and recipient areas.
» »
» »
»
» Just one question. Why can’t the doctor charge by the # of hair?
Well Craig, that is dependant on the patients’ goals. One could have single hair follicular units transplanted but there is little benefit to this approach because desity would be compromised. Also remember that single hair grafts are typically used in the hair line.
You guys are thinking too conspiratorially about the reasons for the current billing setup.
HTs were charging by the graft when everyone did strip HTs. For that type of surgery there was no possible picking & choosing grafts with more or less hair in the total surgery - whatever the strip turned out to have, that was what the doctor placed, one graft at a time. The (ethical) thing to do was to place grafts in the same groupings that they had naturally occurred in back, and only cut up grafts into smaller piece when the hairline work demanded it.
Only since the recent advent of FUE has there even been the possibility of doing a whole HT full of more or less hairs per graft at the discretion of the doctor.
So why does no one on this board think that HT doctors should charge for their services by the hour… rather than the hair or the graft? The silence scares me!
I have to wonder how many posters here are plants from the docs? Clearly there is no real reason hair transplantation is not charged by the hour… is there?
» So why does no one on this board think that HT doctors should charge for
» their services by the hour… rather than the hair or the graft? The
» silence scares me!
»
» I have to wonder how many posters here are plants from the docs? Clearly
» there is no real reason hair transplantation is not charged by the hour…
» is there?
Charging by the hour?! If he is slow,then what. Will you pay if the doctor does only 10 grafts an hour and cites difficulty in extraction or placement or too much bleeding.
Charging by the hour may take it back to 100 grafts a day times and leave everyone dissatisfied. Only pschiatrists charge by the hour. No other speciality charges by the hour. They charge for an operation.
Why not some lumpsum charges for a transplant? Is that workable?
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