Hair Loss - The 5 major causes nongenetic Reason

Supplements for hair loss
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Most people think that hair loss is a genetic condition. This is, perhaps, the most widely-accepted reason for losing hair. But the truth is, a parent’s genes are just one of the many factors that could cause the loss of hair. There are many other factors that could attribute to hair loss:

  1. Hormonal Imbalance

The level of hormones (especially in a woman’s body) could play a great role on whether or not an individual would experience hair loss. Many women have noticed that hair loss ensues at about three months after giving birth. The level of hormones for pregnant women could be so high that the hairs that would normally fall out are retained. This, however, would result into a massive hair loss when the hormone levels decrease after giving birth.

  1. Chemotherapy

Cancer patients who undergo chemotherapy have to use drugs that are specifically designed to attack both the good and bad cells. When this happens, all types of cells (including cells on hair follicles and roots) are subjected to the same level of attack as the deadly cancer cells. This results in hair loss on the patient’s scalp and even on the underarm, leg, and pubic areas. Chemotherapy is so strong that even eyebrows and eyelashes would fall out.

Currently, there is no treatment for hair loss caused by chemotherapy. Most people believe that they could slow down the process of hair loss if they place an ice pack on the affected scalp. This might be able to help but most people also feel much discomfort while placing an ice pack on their scalp. Besides, too much cold applied to the scalp could result into cancer on that region.

It could take a month or more after the last chemotherapy session before the hair fall stops. This condition could range from rapid hair loss to gradual hair fall, and this is depending on the present condition of the patient.

  1. Lack of Biotin

Biotin is an essential element for hair growth and strength. On the absence of this element, the body hairs weaken and gradually would fall off. The only way to cure hair loss on this condition would be to take biotin once more. Biotin could be taken as a food or dietary supplement. If you would want to stock up on biotin, better start eating liver and egg yolks (two types of food that have high biotin content).

  1. Infection

Having dandruff can be a cause of hair loss. When this condition is prolonged, the hair follicles and the scalp are weakened by the fungi that cause this condition. Also, there are certain fungal and bacterial infections that can cause hair loss. Infections such as these are common among children. The treatments include anti-fungal and anti-bacterial medicines.

  1. Exposure to Heat & Excessive Hair Pulling

Styling can be fun but when the hair becomes stressed by such an activity, it’s time to give it a rest. Hair blowers should not be constantly used as exposure to heat would cause the hair in the scalp to become brittle and eventually fall out. Conditioners and other moisturizers could be used to treat severely damaged hair and, to some degree, falling hair.Hairloss-Causes provides variety of tips related to hair loss causes, female hair loss, and advice on choosing right hair loss treatment.more information at http://www.hairloss-causes.com/

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Thank you wphairloss for sharing this. But I would just like to ask if stress can also be a major factor for hair loss?I am so desperate because I am still in my 20’s yet my hair is thinning visibly.

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» Thank you wphairloss for sharing this. But I would just like to ask if
» stress can also be a major factor for hair loss?I am so desperate because I
» am still in my 20’s yet my hair is thinning visibly.

Stress can cause temporary hair shedding called telogen effluvium. This condition, which can be caused by things such as stress, drugs, and malnutrition, usually corrects itself eventually once the cause is gone.

In telogen effluvium, the hair falls out from ALL OVER the head, not just in the typical male pattern baldness areas.

If you’re only losing hair from your temples or the crown of your head, or you’re noticing your hairline moving backwards and your forehead “growing”, then it’s male pattern baldness (also known as “MPB” for short, or scientifically as either “androgenic alopecia” or “androgenetic alopecia” ) .
Click here for a chart depicting stages of Male Pattern Baldness
This type of baldness is caused mainly by dihydrotestosterone (“DHT” ) , a metabolite of testosterone that causes deepening of the voice, body hair growth, and ironically, scalp hair loss. Premature male pattern baldness is an inherited trait, and genetic studies have recently shown that it seems to be carried on your mother’s X chromosome.
Here is the wikipedia entry all about it.

Unfortunately, if you’ve got Male pattern baldness there’s no quick solution except to wear a toupée or get hair transplantation surgery (which is expensive and really requires doing your research before you have it done). Also, some surgeons won’t operate on young guys out of concern for future hair loss.

There are a lot of theories about natural supplements and experimental therapies, and you can read about a lot of them in these forums, but the only ones that are approved by the FDA are Minoxidil (which only works on the crown of your head) and Propecia (which alters your hormones). Some natural remedies which have been suggested are saw palmetto (for its ability to weaken DHT’s effect), Zinc Oxide, Biotin, and various other things.
I’ve been trying them (as well as Minoxidil and Kevis) since I was about 18 years old with no noticeable results, but some people seem to swear by these types of treatments.
I’m 26 now and I wear a toupée, but some day, if I can afford to have it done before I get much older, I’d like to have hair transplantation done.

Personally, I think I would have been better off taking all the money I would have spent on hair loss supplements and putting it into a hair transplantation fund instead, but if someone can actually find a supplement that really works then I’m all for it.

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Great information! Thanks for posting that. It definitely clarifies a lot of misconceptions people may have regarding hair loss.

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» » Thank you wphairloss for sharing this. But I would just like to ask if
» » stress can also be a major factor for hair loss?I am so desperate
» because I
» » am still in my 20’s yet my hair is thinning visibly.
»
» Stress can cause temporary hair shedding called telogen effluvium. This
» condition, which can be caused by things such as stress, drugs, and
» malnutrition, usually corrects itself eventually once the cause is gone.
»
» In telogen effluvium, the hair falls out from ALL OVER the head, not just
» in the typical male pattern baldness areas.
»
» If you’re only losing hair from your temples or the crown of your head, or
» you’re noticing your hairline moving backwards and your forehead “growing”,
» then it’s male pattern baldness (also known as “MPB” for short, or
» scientifically as either “androgenic alopecia” or “androgenetic alopecia” )
» .
» Click here
» for a chart depicting stages of Male Pattern Baldness
» This type of baldness is caused mainly by dihydrotestosterone (“DHT” ) , a
» metabolite of testosterone that causes deepening of the voice, body hair
» growth, and ironically, scalp hair loss. Premature male pattern baldness
» is an inherited trait, and genetic studies have recently shown that it
» seems to be carried on your mother’s X chromosome.
» Here is the
» wikipedia entry all about it.
»
» Unfortunately, if you’ve got Male pattern baldness there’s no quick
» solution except to wear a toupée or get hair transplantation surgery (which
» is expensive and really requires doing your research before you have it
» done). Also, some surgeons won’t operate on young guys out of concern for
» future hair loss.
»
» There are a lot of theories about natural supplements and experimental
» therapies, and you can read about a lot of them in these forums, but the
» only ones that are approved by the FDA are Minoxidil (which only works on
» the crown of your head) and Propecia (which alters your hormones). Some
» natural remedies which have been suggested are saw palmetto (for its
» ability to weaken DHT’s effect), Zinc Oxide, Biotin, and various other
» things.
» I’ve been trying them (as well as Minoxidil and Kevis) since I was about
» 18 years old with no noticeable results, but some people seem to swear by
» these types of treatments.
» I’m 26 now and I wear a toupée, but some day, if I can afford to have it
» done before I get much older, I’d like to have hair transplantation done.
»
» Personally, I think I would have been better off taking all the money I
» would have spent on hair loss supplements and putting it into a hair
» transplantation fund instead, but if someone can actually find a supplement
» that really works then I’m all for it.

Wow! You sure know a lot of information regarding male baldness and its facts. I am also trying some supplements that advertise the potential of their product to bring back lost hair. But I still haven’t seen any positive results. Darn!

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» » » Thank you wphairloss for sharing this. But I would just like to ask if
» » » stress can also be a major factor for hair loss?I am so desperate
» » because I
» » » am still in my 20’s yet my hair is thinning visibly.
» »
» » Stress can cause temporary hair shedding called telogen effluvium.
» This
» » condition, which can be caused by things such as stress, drugs, and
» » malnutrition, usually corrects itself eventually once the cause is
» gone.
» »
» » In telogen effluvium, the hair falls out from ALL OVER the head, not
» just
» » in the typical male pattern baldness areas.
» »
» » If you’re only losing hair from your temples or the crown of your head,
» or
» » you’re noticing your hairline moving backwards and your forehead
» “growing”,
» » then it’s male pattern baldness (also known as “MPB” for short, or
» » scientifically as either “androgenic alopecia” or “androgenetic
» alopecia” )
» » .
» » Click
» here
» » for a chart depicting stages of Male Pattern Baldness
» » This type of baldness is caused mainly by dihydrotestosterone (“DHT” ) ,
» a
» » metabolite of testosterone that causes deepening of the voice, body
» hair
» » growth, and ironically, scalp hair loss. Premature male pattern
» baldness
» » is an inherited trait, and genetic studies have recently shown that it
» » seems to be carried on your mother’s X chromosome.
» » Here is the
» » wikipedia entry all about it.
» »
» » Unfortunately, if you’ve got Male pattern baldness there’s no quick
» » solution except to wear a toupée or get hair transplantation surgery
» (which
» » is expensive and really requires doing your research before you have it
» » done). Also, some surgeons won’t operate on young guys out of concern
» for
» » future hair loss.
» »
» » There are a lot of theories about natural supplements and experimental
» » therapies, and you can read about a lot of them in these forums, but
» the
» » only ones that are approved by the FDA are Minoxidil (which only works
» on
» » the crown of your head) and Propecia (which alters your hormones).
» Some
» » natural remedies which have been suggested are saw palmetto (for its
» » ability to weaken DHT’s effect), Zinc Oxide, Biotin, and various other
» » things.
» » I’ve been trying them (as well as Minoxidil and Kevis) since I was
» about
» » 18 years old with no noticeable results, but some people seem to swear
» by
» » these types of treatments.
» » I’m 26 now and I wear a toupée, but some day, if I can afford to have
» it
» » done before I get much older, I’d like to have hair transplantation
» done.
» »
» » Personally, I think I would have been better off taking all the money I
» » would have spent on hair loss supplements and putting it into a hair
» » transplantation fund instead, but if someone can actually find a
» supplement
» » that really works then I’m all for it.
»
»
» Wow! You sure know a lot of information regarding male baldness and its
» facts. I am also trying some supplements that advertise the potential of
» their product to bring back lost hair. But I still haven’t seen any
» positive results. Darn!

Thanks a lot for the information. But yes stress that is one of the cause hair loss. I suggest procerinthat is one of the best hair loss treatment.

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Biotin Deficiency
I have mentioned this many times on the board, all it brings is laughter

there wss a study done on rats where all the Biotin was removed from their diet to observe what effect that had on their hair
the rats(0r mice) went totally bald

This is why Ultra Hair and Maxi Hair, the two best hair vits on the market both have 2000mcg of timed released biotin in them

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The rats went bald because they became deficient. Very few people, if any here, have a biotin deficiency, but they are still losing hair. And I am unsure how biotin can prevent this from continuing.

I do think that once a person is able to get his hair loss under control, the benefits of biotin supplementation may be more noticeable(e.g. faster growth, stronger roots).

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» The rats went bald because they became deficient. Very few people, if any
» here, have a biotin deficiency, but they are still losing hair. And I am
» unsure how biotin can prevent this from continuing.
»
» I do think that once a person is able to get his hair loss under control,
» the benefits of biotin supplementation may be more noticeable(e.g. faster
» growth, stronger roots).

Yes the rats were totally deficient in Biotin
thats the point, that Biotin deficiency caused an animal, which never loses its hair, to go BALD

who are you to say most of the people do not have biotin deficiencies? thats an absurd statement
how do you know who is deficient in what nutrient

its obvious from the study how critical Biotin is to hair growth
and since Biotin is a water soluble B vitamin, taking a good amount per day in your supplement is not risky, the excess is just excreted in the urine

now I dont see any studies on rats or mice that induced nutritional deficiencies in any other vitamin. that made them go bald

that is the reason the levels of Biotin are so high in Ultra Hair and Maxi Hair
its the most important B vitamin for hair growth
critical for protein synthesis

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» Yes the rats were totally deficient in Biotin
» thats the point, that Biotin deficiency caused an animal, which never
» loses its hair, to go BALD

The same can be stated for other vitamins and minerals if they were completely taken out your diet.

» who are you to say most of the people do not have biotin deficiencies?
» thats an absurd statement

“Biotin deficiency is a rare nutritional disorder caused by a deficiency of the water-soluble B vitamin termed biotin.”

» how do you know who is deficient in what nutrient

Again, very people, if any here, are biotin deficient. The RDA of biotin is 0.3 mg per day. Read this again. 0.3 mg. per day.

» its obvious from the study how critical Biotin is to hair growth
» and since Biotin is a water soluble B vitamin, taking a good amount per
» day in your supplement is not risky, the excess is just excreted in the
» urine
»
» now I dont see any studies on rats or mice that induced nutritional
» deficiencies in any other vitamin. that made them go bald

You can keep your rats, Hangin. Look at what the following deficiencies do to humans.

vitamin A: “Prolonged vitamin A deficiency can lead to hair loss and dandruff caused by the buildup of cellular debris in the hair follicles.”

vitamin B6, folic acid, vitamin B12: “A deficiency of these B vitamins can cause reduced blood and oxygen supply to the hair, leading to increased hair shedding, damaged hair, and slow regrowth.”

copper: “A deficiency of copper can weaken the hair shaft and cause increased hair shedding. A deficiency rarely comes from not getting enough copper in the diet; instead, it usually comes from genetic problems or from too much zinc in the diet. Excess zinc from dietary supplements can inhibit the absorption of copper in the body.”

Zinc: “Dandruff and hair loss are both conditions associated with zinc deficiency.”

» that is the reason the levels of Biotin are so high in Ultra Hair and Maxi

And you urinate a large percentage of it down the comode.

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» » Yes the rats were totally deficient in Biotin
» » thats the point, that Biotin deficiency caused an animal, which never
» » loses its hair, to go BALD
»
» The same can be stated for other vitamins and minerals if they were
» completely taken out your diet.
»
»
» » who are you to say most of the people do not have biotin deficiencies?
» » thats an absurd statement
»
» “Biotin deficiency is a rare nutritional disorder caused by a
» deficiency of the water-soluble B vitamin termed biotin.”
»
»
» » how do you know who is deficient in what nutrient
»
» Again, very people, if any here, are biotin deficient. The RDA of biotin
» is 0.3 mg per day. Read this again. 0.3 mg. per day.
»
»
» » its obvious from the study how critical Biotin is to hair growth
» » and since Biotin is a water soluble B vitamin, taking a good amount per
» » day in your supplement is not risky, the excess is just excreted in the
» » urine
» »
» » now I dont see any studies on rats or mice that induced nutritional
» » deficiencies in any other vitamin. that made them go bald
»
» You can keep your rats, Hangin. Look at what the following deficiencies
» do to humans.
»
» vitamin A: “Prolonged vitamin A deficiency can lead to hair loss and
» dandruff caused by the buildup of cellular debris in the hair follicles.”
»
» vitamin B6, folic acid, vitamin B12: “A deficiency of these B vitamins
» can cause reduced blood and oxygen supply to the hair, leading to increased
» hair shedding, damaged hair, and slow regrowth.”
»
» copper: “A deficiency of copper can weaken the hair shaft and cause
» increased hair shedding. A deficiency rarely comes from not getting enough
» copper in the diet; instead, it usually comes from genetic problems or from
» too much zinc in the diet. Excess zinc from dietary supplements can
» inhibit the absorption of copper in the body.”
»
» Zinc: “Dandruff and hair loss are both conditions associated with zinc
» deficiency.”
»
»
» » that is the reason the levels of Biotin are so high in Ultra Hair and
» Maxi
»
» And you urinate a large percentage of it down the comode.

Biotin RDA levels?
do you realize the RDA levels have not been established through any kind of testing

they are just the average level that the govt THINKS people get
there is no testing to back that up
RDA levels are completely meaningless

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» RDA levels are completely meaningless

If you say so, Hangin.

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» » RDA levels are completely meaningless
»
» If you say so, Hangin.

“RDA levels are set by government-appointed groups of health scientists on the basis of how much of a nutrient is needed to prevent serious vitamin deficiency diseases such as scurvy (vitamin C), beriberi (B-1) or pellagra (B-3). Surprisingly, health authorities cannot agree on how much these amounts should be as illustrated by the fact that RDA’s vary by as much as 10 times from one country to another.”

“Described by Dr. Stephen Davies, founder of the British Society for Nutritional Medicine, as “ridiculous dietary arbitraries,” RDA’s are, at best, the minimal intake for a “normal” person who doesn’t smoke or drink, isn’t premenstrual, menopausal, suffering an illness or infection, or exposed to excessive stress or pollution. In short, they are relatively meaningless statistics if you are seeking better health through nutrition rather than simply trying to avoid getting scurvy.”

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You quote one doctor (from Britain no less :wink: ), while I have provided you with the general consensus of the IOM (from the US :slight_smile: ) stating that 30 mcg. of biotin a day is enough.

Normal biotin requirements

The United States Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the National Academy of Sciences has developed values called Dietary Reference Intakes (DRIs) for vitamins and minerals The DRIs consist of three sets of numbers. The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) defines the average daily amount of the nutrient needed to meet the health needs of 97–98% of the population. The Adequate Intake (AI) is an estimate set when there is not enough information to determine anRDA. The Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) is the average maximum amount that can be .

The IOM has not set RDA values for biotin because of incomplete scientific information. Instead, it has set AI levels for all age groups. AI levels for biotin are measured by weight (micrograms or mcg). No UL levels have been set for biotin because large doses of biotin do not appear to cause any side effects.

The following are the AIs for biotin for healthy individuals:

•Children birth-6 months: 5 mcg
•Children 7-12 months: 6 mcg
•Children 1-3 years: 8 mcg
•Children 4-8 years: 12 mcg
•Children 14-18 years: 25 mcg
•Adults age 19 and older: 30 mcg
•Pregnant women: 30 mcg
•Breastfeeding women: 35 mcg

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» You quote one doctor (from Britain no less :wink: ), while I have provided you
» with the general consensus of the IOM (from the US :slight_smile: ) stating that 30
» mcg. of biotin a day is enough.
»
»
»
» Normal biotin requirements
»
» The United States Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the National Academy of
» Sciences has developed values called Dietary Reference Intakes (DRIs) for
» vitamins and minerals The DRIs consist of three sets of numbers. The
» Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) defines the average daily amount of the
» nutrient needed to meet the health needs of 97–98% of the population. The
» Adequate Intake (AI) is an estimate set when there is not enough
» information to determine anRDA. The Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) is
» the average maximum amount that can be .
»
» The IOM has not set RDA values for biotin because of incomplete scientific
» information. Instead, it has set AI levels for all age groups. AI levels
» for biotin are measured by weight (micrograms or mcg). No UL levels have
» been set for biotin because large doses of biotin do not appear to cause
» any side effects.
»
» The following are the AIs for biotin for healthy individuals:
»
» •Children birth-6 months: 5 mcg
» •Children 7-12 months: 6 mcg
» •Children 1-3 years: 8 mcg
» •Children 4-8 years: 12 mcg
» •Children 14-18 years: 25 mcg
» •Adults age 19 and older: 30 mcg
» •Pregnant women: 30 mcg
» •Breastfeeding women: 35 mcg

again
you are assuming that if a person ingests
lets assume your calculations of minimum intake are correct

how do you know what level the person is actually GETTING
digesting? assimilating?
You DONT

unless you test the person
better yet,
the hair nails and skin are last in line for nutrients in the body
if the body is at all deficient in a nutrient, the hair will most certainly get none of that nutrient

the body will nourish the internal organs and the brain first
hair is not a priority
thus in order to insure that the hair gets sufficient B vitamins, you have to take a high dosage way over the minimum amount

you think its just a coincidence that the super hair vitamins have 2000mcg of Biotin in there? I am sure its not free to put it in

you think they just do that for the hell of it?

Their business depends on REPEAT BUSINESS AND WORD OF MOUTH

if one person buys the vitamins and they dont work and they dont reorder, well they made a few bucks

if that person is very impressed at the results and becomes a lifetime customer and reorders and tells all their friends, well THAT is how you build a successful business

I ASSURE YOU , they base the ingredients on what they feel based on past testing WORKS, and keeps the customers happy and coming back

they are not stupid these companies
they dont do things because they sound good

most of the people ordering have no idea what ingredients are effective

you think its just a coincidence that ALL these super hair vitamins have THE SAME AMOUNT (very high) of Biotin, and its timed released also? Amazing coincidence, they must all be crazy

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Biotin can be included in “high amounts” because it is cheap, easy to get, and easy to make. It’s a marketing ploy, man. What percentage of this 2000 mcg. of biotin do you think the body actually uses? C’mon.

Biotin is easily obtained through one’s diet (“a bowl of oatmeal or granola for breakfast, an omelet or egg salad sandwich for lunch, a handful of almonds or walnuts for a snack, and a dinner including halibut, a salad of romaine lettuce, cucumber and tomato, and some strawberries or raspberries for dessert would supply more than [double the daily requirement]”).

But here is the money question, Hangin:

Do you think MPB is caused by a biotin deficiency?

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» Biotin can be included in “high amounts” because it is cheap, easy to get,
» and easy to make. It’s a marketing ploy, man. What percentage of this
» 2000 mcg. of biotin do you think the body actually uses? C’mon.
»
» Biotin is easily obtained through one’s diet (“a bowl of oatmeal or
» granola for breakfast, an omelet or egg salad sandwich for lunch, a handful
» of almonds or walnuts for a snack, and a dinner including halibut, a salad
» of romaine lettuce, cucumber and tomato, and some strawberries or
» raspberries for dessert would supply more than [double the daily
» requirement]”).
»
»
» But here is the money question, Hangin:
»
» Do you think MPB is caused by a biotin deficiency?

Do I think it is caused by just a biotin deficiency?
of course not

and you keep saying well a balanced diet will easily get you enough biotin in your diet
Enough for what

you have not addressed my issue of absorbtion

lets say that if the guy has a large dht buildup the blood vessels going to the follicles are constricted by the DHT buildup
very possible

so its like a kinked hose
there is blood supply to the hair sure, but severely restricted
so no matter if the amount of the biotin in the blood is normal
the amount getting to the hair is severely restricted
thus the need for a large increase in biotin in the diet
not to mention guys who are not processing it well

another issue is Minerals
without a sufficient balance of minerals, both in amount, and proportion to other minerals,
the vitamins in the diet will not be assimilated correctly, will not be recognized by the body , and will pass right through the digestive system
so if the guy is not taking a decent mineral supp, or eating a GREAT DIET
(most dont , lets face it) the Biotin and any other vitamin supp he takes will not be absorbed by the body

you are oversimplifying vitamins and nutrition

do I think they CAUSE baldness by themselves no
do I think the hair vitamins taken with a good chelated mineral separately can have a HUGE helpful impact, as part of the overall solution, yes indeed

We all know that hair loss is an extremely complicated little understood problem that affects each of us differently.
Does your regimen with the resveratrol etc work , I am not sure it may work for some, and for others just as with mine it may have no effect

I am still curious to add curcumin to my regimen

what do you think of this one

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» We all know that hair loss is an extremely complicated little understood
» problem that affects each of us differently.

Agreed.

» Does your regimen with the resveratrol etc work , I am not sure it may
» work for some, and for others just as with mine it may have no effect

From my experience and readings, I believe that curcumin and resveratrol “work” to reduce inflammation; but whether or not this translates to an eventual cessation of hair loss and regrowth seems to vary among its users.

» I am still curious to add curcumin to my regimen
» what do you think of this one
» http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Turmeric-800-mg-per-serving-200-Capsules

Well, there do exist a number of people who believe the turmeric herb should be taken as a whole, rather than just its “the principal curcuminoid,” curcumin. Still, since I have used only the curcumin extract successfully, I am partial to these:

  1. http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Curcumin-95-500-mg-120-Capsules/13089?at=0

  2. http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Meriva-SR-Meriva-Curcumin-Phytosome-120-Veggie-Caps/18125?at=0

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» » We all know that hair loss is an extremely complicated little understood
» » problem that affects each of us differently.
»
» Agreed.
»
» » Does your regimen with the resveratrol etc work , I am not sure it may
» » work for some, and for others just as with mine it may have no effect
»
» From my experience and readings, I believe that curcumin and resveratrol
» “work” to reduce inflammation; but whether or not this translates to an
» eventual cessation of hair loss and regrowth seems to vary among its
» users.
»
» » I am still curious to add curcumin to my regimen
» » what do you think of this one
» » http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Turmeric-800-mg-per-serving-200-Capsules
»
» Well, there do exist a number of people who believe the turmeric herb
» should be taken as a whole, rather than just its “the principal
» curcuminoid,” curcumin. Still, since I have used only the curcumin extract
» successfully, I am partial to these:
»
» 1.
» http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Curcumin-95-500-mg-120-Capsules/13089?at=0
»
» 2.
» http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Meriva-SR-Meriva-Curcumin-Phytosome-120-Veggie-Caps/18125?at=0

Thanks for those links will check them out
BTW
the costs for the vits i checked on Iherb
compared to
vitacost
same exact for example Maxi Hair

Iherb is 25 percent higher, 90ct bottle of Maxi hair is 8 bucks on Vitacost
10 bucks on Iherb

just in case you are cheap like me
you might want to do some comparisons, not sure if this applies to other vits and supps on each site

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Yes, I will check out Vitacost again, hopefully their customer service has improved. Years ago, they gave me the huge run around, after being sent the wrong supplement. Since then, I have been using iHerb.