Gho offering a 50 graft proof session

» Also which bit don’t you understand you thick SH*T!

Seems the “thick SH*T” caught him … :smiley:

Talk the talk!

Its not for me to prove.I have researched for a few years now on hair multiplication.So far its all amounted to a big nothing.

No one as shown any proper evidence of any kind of hair multiplication.
I believe it will happen one day,but in the meantime we should all get used to being bald,or have an hair transplant and chase hair.

Also which bit don’t you understand you thick SH*T!

500 euros isn’t a lot of money,
School children club together to save 500 euros not adults.

» No one as shown any proper evidence of any kind of hair multiplication.

BS #3

… and finally (?) …

BIG BS #4

» …we should all get used to being bald,
» or have an hair transplant and chase hair.

» » No one as shown any proper evidence of any kind of hair multiplication.
»
» BS #3
»
» … and finally (?) …
»
» BIG BS #4
»
» » …we should all get used to being bald,
» » or have an hair transplant and chase hair.

Iron_Man crying like a baby,a bald baby.

If you look at my posting records you’ll see I talk the talk!

I’m not scared to pick up a phone and ask questions!

» Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates. Gho is
» now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this rate
» was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I believe. I
» thought this was interesting. Any takers!!

Back to the point…

I’m happy to contribute 50 euros to anyone who’s willing to undergo the test procedure provided it is monitored professionally. Perhaps if a hair transplant surgeon nearby can monitor it? Or would that not be trusting them? Or a dermatologist? or even if another member lived closed by the test patient can monitoer it provided he has a good amount of knowledge on how to exam it and what to look for.

» » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates. Gho
» is
» » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this
» rate
» » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I believe.
» I
» » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
»
» Back to the point…
»
» I’m happy to contribute 50 euros to anyone who’s willing to undergo the
» test procedure provided it is monitored professionally. Perhaps if a hair
» transplant surgeon nearby can monitor it? Or would that not be trusting
» them? Or a dermatologist? or even if another member lived closed by the
» test patient can monitoer it provided he has a good amount of knowledge on
» how to exam it and what to look for.

I think your all forgetting why would Gho now be interested,he’s fully booked up for the rest of the year.

James Bond any imput?

» » » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates.
» Gho
» » is
» » » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this
» » rate
» » » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I
» believe.
» » I
» » » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
» »
» » Back to the point…
» »
» » I’m happy to contribute 50 euros to anyone who’s willing to undergo the
» » test procedure provided it is monitored professionally. Perhaps if a
» hair
» » transplant surgeon nearby can monitor it? Or would that not be trusting
» » them? Or a dermatologist? or even if another member lived closed by the
» » test patient can monitoer it provided he has a good amount of knowledge
» on
» » how to exam it and what to look for.
»
» I think your all forgetting why would Gho now be interested,he’s fully
» booked up for the rest of the year.
»
» James Bond any imput?

Any surgeon can squeeze in a 50 graft session, even if he has to work over-time or on a weekend. It’s obviously a little more out of the ordinary and an important procedure.

My only concern is if I were gho i’d say “I’m willing to give anyone a 50 graft test proceudre with 100% monitering, documentation, and data with facts along the way + pictures. If the test fails I guarantee your money back in two folds”. Then we’re talking business. In my business I am so confident in our services I tell my potential customers if they’re not satisfied with my service simply cancel and we’ll refund the full 30 days back.

» » James Bond any imput?
»
» Any surgeon can squeeze in a 50 graft session, even if he has to work
» over-time or on a weekend. It’s obviously a little more out of the
» ordinary and an important procedure.
»
» My only concern is if I were gho i’d say “I’m willing to give anyone a 50
» graft test proceudre with 100% monitering, documentation, and data with
» facts along the way + pictures. If the test fails I guarantee your money
» back in two folds”. Then we’re talking business. In my business I am so
» confident in our services I tell my potential customers if they’re not
» satisfied with my service simply cancel and we’ll refund the full 30 days
» back.

Good point mj!

As you can see, all you have to do is just to use a smaller triple-waved punch/needle, with a diameter of 0.5 mm, which you can buy e.g. here:
http://www.mediquipsurgical.com/trtitippu.html

Now just extract some FU’s (anagen phase FU’s !!) as FUE-Docs do so during a traditional FUE procedure.

After the extraction, apply Fucidin Cream (Leo Pharma, Breda, The Netherlands) on the tiny wounds – that’s all! :slight_smile:

Throw the extracted grafts down the toilet (or whatever), because this test, as described above, is just to test, whether ALL (or most of them) extracted (transected) grafts regrow back after about 2 – 3 WEEKS, because there is NO NEED to wait many month to see all the hairs regrow!

Easy - isn’t it? :wink:

» » » James Bond any imput?
» »
» » Any surgeon can squeeze in a 50 graft
» session
, even if he has to work
» » over-time or on a weekend. It’s obviously a little more out of the
» » ordinary and an important procedure.
» »
» » My only concern is if I were gho i’d say “I’m willing to give anyone a
» 50
» » graft test proceudre with 100% monitering, documentation, and data with
» » facts along the way + pictures. If the test fails I guarantee your
» money
» » back in two folds”. Then we’re talking business. In my business I am so
» » confident in our services I tell my potential customers if they’re not
» » satisfied with my service simply cancel and we’ll refund the full 30
» days
» » back.
»
» Good point mj!
»
»


»
» As you can see, all you have to do is just to use a smaller
» triple-waved punch/needle
, with a diameter of 0.5 mm, which you
» can buy e.g. here:
» Hair Transplant Instruments - Mediquip Surgical
»
» Now just extract some FU’s (anagen phase FU’s
» !!
) as FUE-Docs do so during a traditional FUE procedure.
»
» After the extraction, apply Fucidin Cream (Leo Pharma, Breda, The
» Netherlands) on the tiny wounds – that’s all! :slight_smile:
»
» Throw the extracted grafts down the toilet (or whatever), because this
» test, as described above, is just to test, whether ALL (or most of them)
» extracted (transected) grafts regrow back after about 2 – 3 WEEKS,
» because there is NO NEED to wait many month to see all the hairs regrow!
»
» Easy - isn’t it? :wink:

personally i dont think it sounds that easy at all… how does he make sure he is cutting right through the middle and not too much on either side… it seems like you wld need a very stable hand to manage that.

apart from that i DO think it is essential that the grafts grow in as well… what point is there in donor regrowth without growth in the transplant area?

» Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates. Gho is
» now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this rate
» was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I believe. I
» thought this was interesting. Any takers!!

hey guys… i really dont know how we can set up a donation account without having to trust someone to work as a trustee… i am willing to accept donations to my paypal account and i would send the donator a signed retainer letter confirming that i am holding the money as a trustee prior to any donation. I’m not very knowledgable about how this is usually done. I’m also open to other suggestions.

»
» personally i dont think it sounds that easy at all… how does he make sure
» he is cutting right through the middle and not too much on either side… it
» seems like you wld need a very stable hand to manage that.
»
» apart from that i DO think it is essential that the grafts grow in as
» well… what point is there in donor regrowth without growth in the
» transplant area?

yeah definitely, as amazing as it would be to get donor regeneration it’s pretty redundant if it doesnt work in the recipient area. Thats the whole point really. Either way we really do need to act now to put this debate to bed one way or another its just starting to go around in circles to be honest. I to am willing to donate in the aim of getting something done. we 1st need some sort of spokesperson to contact Dr Gho directly to see if this can be arranged. I personally think it would be professional suicide if he rejects the chance. If he is confident he can achieve results each and every time and he does while being reviewed by the people who matter the most (hairloss sufferers) then he will have created a monster market for himself. lets stop talking and take action.

» »
» » personally i dont think it sounds that easy at all… how does he make
» sure
» » he is cutting right through the middle and not too much on either side…
» it
» » seems like you wld need a very stable hand to manage that.
» »
» » apart from that i DO think it is essential that the grafts grow in as
» » well… what point is there in donor regrowth without growth in the
» » transplant area?
»
» yeah definitely, as amazing as it would be to get donor regeneration it’s
» pretty redundant if it doesnt work in the recipient area. Thats the whole
» point really. Either way we really do need to act now to put this debate to
» bed one way or another its just starting to go around in circles to be
» honest. I to am willing to donate in the aim of getting something done. we
» 1st need some sort of spokesperson to contact Dr Gho directly to see if
» this can be arranged. I personally think it would be professional suicide
» if he rejects the chance. If he is confident he can achieve results each
» and every time and he does while being reviewed by the people who matter
» the most (hairloss sufferers) then he will have created a monster market
» for himself. lets stop talking and take action.

AS i said i would do it, the netherlands are not far away from my destination AND i would gladly let someone from this forum coming with me for example Iron Man.

I can also offer to create a special blog for this situation and with updates.

And you could gladly transfer to Gho directly i have no problem with that.

To hell i would also pay my ride to the netherlands by myself.

Its all for this discussion here to end it (hopefully in a positive way)

I am not a VIP nor a dutch musician iam just a avergae person.

So its up to you guys.

» » »
» » » personally i dont think it sounds that easy at all… how does he make
» » sure
» » » he is cutting right through the middle and not too much on either
» side…
» » it
» » » seems like you wld need a very stable hand to manage that.
» » »
» » » apart from that i DO think it is essential that the grafts grow in as
» » » well… what point is there in donor regrowth without growth in the
» » » transplant area?
» »
» » yeah definitely, as amazing as it would be to get donor regeneration
» it’s
» » pretty redundant if it doesnt work in the recipient area. Thats the
» whole
» » point really. Either way we really do need to act now to put this debate
» to
» » bed one way or another its just starting to go around in circles to be
» » honest. I to am willing to donate in the aim of getting something done.
» we
» » 1st need some sort of spokesperson to contact Dr Gho directly to see if
» » this can be arranged. I personally think it would be professional
» suicide
» » if he rejects the chance. If he is confident he can achieve results
» each
» » and every time and he does while being reviewed by the people who
» matter
» » the most (hairloss sufferers) then he will have created a monster
» market
» » for himself. lets stop talking and take action.
»
»
»
» AS i said i would do it, the netherlands are not far away from my
» destination AND i would gladly let someone from this forum coming with me
» for example Iron Man.
»
» I can also offer to create a special blog for this situation and with
» updates.
»
» And you could gladly transfer to Gho directly i have no problem with
» that.
»
» To hell i would also pay my ride to the netherlands by myself.
»
» Its all for this discussion here to end it (hopefully in a positive way)
»
» I am not a VIP nor a dutch musician iam just a avergae person.
»
» So its up to you guys.

We need someone to contact Dr Gho directly. Explain to him what we want to do and see what his response is. Is there anyone willing to contact him and see what he says. I believe it should be someone from a neutral stand point so as to not create a conflict of interests. Lets do this people!

This forum is terribly inefficient.
The first thing to do would be to contact Gho to ask the details of this “test”.
I think Gho is AGAIN playing with us. He has done it in the last 10 years.

The table just says “TEST”. Nothing more than that.

  1. It doesn’t mention what this “test” is for. You guys are assuming too much.

  2. Are the 50 grafts harvested in a small contiguous area, easy to track, or is it a “scattered harvesting”? (in which case, the “test” would be useless).

  3. Are the grafts transplanted to a small contiguous recipient area, easy to track, or scattered across a large area?

  4. Where is the “TEST” gallery?

  5. If this test was what you guys are assuming it is…
    don’t you think Gho should have posted about it in the main page of his website, clearly specifying all the details, and accompanying it with a photo gallery?

IMO, Gho is playing with us again.

» This forum is terribly inefficient.
» The first thing to do would be to contact Gho to ask the details of this
» “test”.
» I think Gho is AGAIN playing with us. He has done it in the last 10
» years.
»
» The table just says “TEST”. Nothing more than that.
»
» 1. It doesn’t mention what this “test” is for. You guys are assuming too
» much.
»
» 2. Are the 50 grafts harvested in a small contiguous area, easy to track,
» or is it a “scattered harvesting”? (in which case, the “test” would be
» useless).
»
» 3. Are the grafts transplanted to a small contiguous recipient area, easy
» to track, or scattered across a large area?
»
» 4. Where is the “TEST” gallery?
»
» 5. If this test was what you guys are assuming it is…
» don’t you think Gho should have posted about it in the main page of his
» website, clearly specifying all the details, and accompanying it with a
» photo gallery?
»
» IMO, Gho is playing with us again.

Thats the reason why someone before your posting posted something about asking him directly.

I would agree, we need someone who is in the field and has good knowledge to let Gho know what we are going to do

» Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates. Gho is
» now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this rate
» was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I believe. I
» thought this was interesting. Any takers!!

A sucker born every minute…

Some unscrupulous mining companies used to ‘salt’ the core samples to show higher concentrations of the mineral (e.g gold) in the core - they would simply put in gold in the core sample pulled out of the ground to show higher concentrations of the deposit.

How can anyone be sure Gho doesn’t transplant a hair from the back of the head instead of a HM hair? is it possible that he could ‘salt’ the samples…

This forum doesn’t need to collect 500Euro to prove Gho’s procedure. Gho should do this procedure under strict supervision on controlled patients and environment at his cost to prove the concept.

Wouldn’t it be funny if 10 of the 1000 HM hairs were actually original hair from the back of the head thus making people bele3ive there was some sort of success rate. I"m not saying Gho is doing this ,but how can anyone be sure of the procedure if it’s not controlled by an INDEPENDENT 3rd party.

if anyone can do it, it will be ADERANS

» » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates. Gho
» is
» » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this
» rate
» » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I believe.
» I
» » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
»
» A sucker born every minute…
»
» Some unscrupulous mining companies used to ‘salt’ the core samples to show
» higher concentrations of the mineral (e.g gold) in the core - they would
» simply put in gold in the core sample pulled out of the ground to show
» higher concentrations of the deposit.
»
» How can anyone be sure Gho doesn’t transplant a hair from the back of the
» head instead of a HM hair? is it possible that he could ‘salt’ the
» samples…
»
» This forum doesn’t need to collect 500Euro to prove Gho’s procedure. Gho
» should do this procedure under strict supervision on controlled patients
» and environment at his cost to prove the concept.
»
» Wouldn’t it be funny if 10 of the 1000 HM hairs were actually original
» hair from the back of the head thus making people bele3ive there was some
» sort of success rate. I"m not saying Gho is doing this ,but how can anyone
» be sure of the procedure if it’s not controlled by an INDEPENDENT 3rd
» party.
»
» if anyone can do it, it will be ADERANS

that is precisely what we would like to find out.

» » » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates.
» Gho
» » is
» » » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to this
» » rate
» » » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I
» believe.
» » I
» » » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
» »
» » A sucker born every minute…
» »
» » Some unscrupulous mining companies used to ‘salt’ the core samples to
» show
» » higher concentrations of the mineral (e.g gold) in the core - they
» would
» » simply put in gold in the core sample pulled out of the ground to show
» » higher concentrations of the deposit.
» »
» » How can anyone be sure Gho doesn’t transplant a hair from the back of
» the
» » head instead of a HM hair? is it possible that he could ‘salt’ the
» » samples…
» »
» » This forum doesn’t need to collect 500Euro to prove Gho’s procedure.
» Gho
» » should do this procedure under strict supervision on controlled
» patients
» » and environment at his cost to prove the concept.
» »
» » Wouldn’t it be funny if 10 of the 1000 HM hairs were actually original
» » hair from the back of the head thus making people bele3ive there was
» some
» » sort of success rate. I"m not saying Gho is doing this ,but how can
» anyone
» » be sure of the procedure if it’s not controlled by an INDEPENDENT 3rd
» » party.
» »
» » if anyone can do it, it will be ADERANS
»
» that is precisely what we would like to find out.

Exactly and 500 Euros are a small fee for finding the truth and end a for my opinion too long discussion.

And as i stated before i would gladly be accompanied by someone from this forum, i dont care.

» » » » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under rates.
» » Gho
» » » is
» » » » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to
» this
» » » rate
» » » » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I
» » believe.
» » » I
» » » » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
» » »
» » » A sucker born every minute…
» » »
» » » Some unscrupulous mining companies used to ‘salt’ the core samples to
» » show
» » » higher concentrations of the mineral (e.g gold) in the core - they
» » would
» » » simply put in gold in the core sample pulled out of the ground to
» show
» » » higher concentrations of the deposit.
» » »
» » » How can anyone be sure Gho doesn’t transplant a hair from the back of
» » the
» » » head instead of a HM hair? is it possible that he could ‘salt’ the
» » » samples…
» » »
» » » This forum doesn’t need to collect 500Euro to prove Gho’s procedure.
» » Gho
» » » should do this procedure under strict supervision on controlled
» » patients
» » » and environment at his cost to prove the concept.
» » »
» » » Wouldn’t it be funny if 10 of the 1000 HM hairs were actually
» original
» » » hair from the back of the head thus making people bele3ive there was
» » some
» » » sort of success rate. I"m not saying Gho is doing this ,but how can
» » anyone
» » » be sure of the procedure if it’s not controlled by an INDEPENDENT 3rd
» » » party.
» » »
» » » if anyone can do it, it will be ADERANS
» »
» » that is precisely what we would like to find out.
»
» Exactly and 500 Euros are a small fee for finding the truth and end a for
» my opinion too long discussion.
»
» And as i stated before i would gladly be accompanied by someone from this
» forum, i dont care.

Exactly lets just get it done and stop talking about what if this and what if that. A spokesperson for the forum should contact Dr Gho directly and tell him of what we are looking for. If he agrees then we can go about selecting someone to go and sorting out finance. But please lets stop talking about it at this stage. Some people think he is a complete liar some think he is a genius. Everyone has had their say on what they think now lets just get actual documented proof.

» » » » » Checked the HSI website today and noticed something new under
» rates.
» » » Gho
» » » » is
» » » » » now offering 50 grafts for 500 euros as a proof session, next to
» » this
» » » » rate
» » » » » was the word “Proef”. This is Dutch for proof/test as far as I
» » » believe.
» » » » I
» » » » » thought this was interesting. Any takers!!
» » » »
» » » » A sucker born every minute…
» » » »
» » » » Some unscrupulous mining companies used to ‘salt’ the core samples
» to
» » » show
» » » » higher concentrations of the mineral (e.g gold) in the core - they
» » » would
» » » » simply put in gold in the core sample pulled out of the ground to
» » show
» » » » higher concentrations of the deposit.
» » » »
» » » » How can anyone be sure Gho doesn’t transplant a hair from the back
» of
» » » the
» » » » head instead of a HM hair? is it possible that he could ‘salt’ the
» » » » samples…
» » » »
» » » » This forum doesn’t need to collect 500Euro to prove Gho’s
» procedure.
» » » Gho
» » » » should do this procedure under strict supervision on controlled
» » » patients
» » » » and environment at his cost to prove the concept.
» » » »
» » » » Wouldn’t it be funny if 10 of the 1000 HM hairs were actually
» » original
» » » » hair from the back of the head thus making people bele3ive there
» was
» » » some
» » » » sort of success rate. I"m not saying Gho is doing this ,but how can
» » » anyone
» » » » be sure of the procedure if it’s not controlled by an INDEPENDENT
» 3rd
» » » » party.
» » » »
» » » » if anyone can do it, it will be ADERANS
» » »
» » » that is precisely what we would like to find out.
» »
» » Exactly and 500 Euros are a small fee for finding the truth and end a
» for
» » my opinion too long discussion.
» »
» » And as i stated before i would gladly be accompanied by someone from
» this
» » forum, i dont care.
»
» Exactly lets just get it done and stop talking about what if this and what
» if that. A spokesperson for the forum should contact Dr Gho directly and
» tell him of what we are looking for. If he agrees then we can go about
» selecting someone to go and sorting out finance. But please lets stop
» talking about it at this stage. Some people think he is a complete liar
» some think he is a genius. Everyone has had their say on what they think
» now lets just get actual documented proof.

So guys iam waiting, are we gonna do this or what?

Iam absolutely ready to go