Fue white dots

Hair Transplant
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» Manual extractions, 0.8 mm punches, intelligent extraction pattern. No
» visible signs of thinning.

Interesting.

And what happens if patients have hair follicles (1 single hair follicle) with a diameter of e.g 0.5 or even 0.7 mm? Then you can harvest 2-hair follicle grafts (= 1mm or 1.4mm diameter all in all) with such tools too?

What exactly defines an “intact hair follicle”?

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around 1500 grafts extracted

they answered the email , not the question

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» around 1500 grafts extracted

well, then you have plenty of donor left.

» they answered the email , not the question

insist to them. there should be no problem. You have plenty of donor and HST should work on scar tissue, so Gho could harvest grafts and plant them into your white dots. Gho plants hair into burned areas, so white dots should not be a problem.

Hey, Scarro, I have an idea, why don’t you do the free Hairsite test?
As you have those white dots, maybe these could serve as reference in the photos.

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hairman2 - yes Dr Gho took before pics. I will ask him for them when I see him next. in the video you can see the outline he drew on my head that shows the existing hairline and the hairline he was filling in with the procedure.

Here are some before and afters that I took:
Pic 1
Pic 2

» » I am not here to promote any doctor that’s why i did not mention the
» » doctors name.
» »
» » I like you have been very interested in gho’s hst but i am also very
» » skeptical due to his past. I want to believe i really do but i really
» need
» » proof before i commit. If it was based on just straight forward fue i
» would
» » not touch gho with a bargepole but donor regeneration clinches the deal
» for
» » me if it can be proved.
» »
» » I just found it interesting that i could not see any white dots on a
» » patient that had a regular fue with basically my eyes a few cm from his
» » head.
» » Therefore anyone who examines gho patients should bear this in mind as
» » well.
» »
» » Honestly you would never have known this guys head had been touched. It
» was
» » very surprising.
»
»
» bummer… it really seems that only a proper hair count can solve this
» dilemma.
»
» also, does Dr. Gho take pictures of the donor area before operating?
» Perhaps the German patient or Scissorboy could request these pictures so
» that we can compare?

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» » around 1500 grafts extracted
»
» well, then you have plenty of donor left.
»
» » they answered the email , not the question
»
» insist to them. there should be no problem. You have plenty of donor and
» HST should work on scar tissue, so Gho could harvest grafts and plant them
» into your white dots. Gho plants hair into burned areas, so white dots
» should not be a problem.
»
» Hey, Scarro, I have an idea, why don’t you do the free Hairsite test?
» As you have those white dots, maybe these could serve as reference in the
» photos.

Holy sh*t spanishdude just did something

you just made the best suggestion ever… scarro is that something you’d be interested in?

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» hairman2 - yes Dr Gho took before pics. I will ask him for them when I see
» him next. in the video you can see the outline he drew on my head that
» shows the existing hairline and the hairline he was filling in with the
» procedure.
»
» Here are some before and afters that I took:
» Pic
» 1
» Pic
» 2
»

scissorboy, a few people here are confident that a regular FUE doctor would be able to spot the gaps… maybe going to europe isn’t necessary?

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» Hey, Scarro, I have an idea, why don’t you do the free Hairsite test?
» As you have those white dots, maybe these could serve as reference in the
» photos.

what do you think scarro? you’re a perfect candidate and possibly planning to go anyway no?

only issue is we have to wait til next march either way

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ok, sure. i’m down for that anytime after January

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Hey cool i support this because you deserve this

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» Hey cool i support this because you deserve this

Fine for me too.

We only need to carefully choose which white dots to use as reference.
Ideally, I think we would chose them in the border (fronteer) of the dotted area. For example, the lower border.
But we need to see photos. We need to see how is the dotted area, and then we will be able to choose the best location for the reference. Maybe it is a distinct point in the border of the dotted area (for example, a peak, a corner).

Scarro, could you please post photos of your whole donor area (shaved)?

another question: in the photo you have posted, the white dots are fairly evident, but I feel the photo has very high contrast, and this could magnify the effect. Are these white dots, in real life, as apparent as in the photos?

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Demands, Demands, demands you want others to do everything but you can only bicker.

Tzzzz and people agree with you, no wonder people with hair make fun of bald people

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» We only need to carefully choose which white dots to use as reference.
» Ideally, I think we would chose them in the border (fronteer) of the dotted
» area. For example, the lower border.
» But we need to see photos.

Right - I still need to see photos of Spanish Dud’s donor area.

Spanish Dud, YOU always want to see photos from other persons??
Why don’t YOU post any photos?
Are you unable to make photos??

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Okay, when we finally find someone viable for the trial, Stevie.Dee and Iron_Man start derrailing the discusion. How curious.

Before, I was attacked and accused of boicotting this initiative, and now I am accused precisely because I am cooperating.

There are no words in the dictionary to define the filth that you both are.

» » We only need to carefully choose which white dots to use as reference.
» » Ideally, I think we would chose them in the border (fronteer) of the
» dotted
» » area. For example, the lower border.
» » But we need to see photos.
»
» Right - I still need to see photos of Spanish Dud’s donor area.
»
» Spanish Dud, YOU always want to see photos from other persons??
» Why don’t YOU post any photos?
» Are you unable to make photos??

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» Okay, when we finally find someone viable for the trial, Stevie.Dee and
» Iron_Man start derrailing the discusion. How curious.
»
» Before, I was attacked and accused of boicotting this initiative, and now I
» am accused precisely because I am cooperating.
»
» There are no words in the dictionary to define the filth that you both
» are.

Simply post photos. I simply want to see some photos of YOUR donor area!

If you don’t post any - you are nothing more than just a f u c k i n g loser and LIAR!

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» Okay, when we finally find someone viable for the trial, Stevie.Dee and
» Iron_Man start derrailing the discusion. How curious.

Oh, by the way …

THIS thread has absolutly nothing to do with “trails”!!
This thread is about white dots from FUE and donor areas. And now I still want to see some photos of YOUR donor area. Shaved or unshaved - it doesn’t matter. :smiley:

And don’t forget to lable them “viable”!

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» Here are some before and afters that I took:
» Pic
» 1
» Pic
» 2

Someone (yoshi84) on a German hair loss board posted 1 of these photos about 1 month earlier BEFORE you posted these photos here on HairSite about 1 month thereafter:

One month earlier means these photos show -best case- the result about 3 - 4 month after the HST procedure - right?

Interestingly enough, it seems, indeed, that most (but surely not all) HST grafts grew since day 1.

But remember, that all those hairs who grew immediately, these hairs grow as (scientifically) explained/observed below …

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Anyway, you simply have to wait at least 9 month (after the procedure), until you can finally judge the REAL result.

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» I am sorry but this fue white dot is being way over hyped by certain
» individuals.
» I met a patient yesterday from one of the belgium doctors that is on my
» short list for surgery.
» The guy had short hair and cropped to a number 1 probably a bit shorter
» than Wesley Sneider.
» He let me examine his hair in bright sunlight and I could not see one fue
» dot and then to my amazement he told me the doctor in question had taken
» 3500 grafts from all over.
» No matter how hard I looked I could not really see where the grafts where
» taken from. The donor area was perfect looked completely untouched.
» If he told me he had 100% donor regeneration I would have definitely have
» believed him but the doctor he went to only does straight forward fue.
» The guy told me they used a 0.8mm needle and the doctor has told him he can
» take at least another 3500 grafts should he need at a later date.

You didn’t see any white dots because his head was not shaved. Ask him to shave his head and you can see white dots, it is unavoidable, I don’t believe that there are any fue doctors in the world who can do 100% white dot free fue.

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I agree and disagree. I agree that not one FUE clinic can perform FUE without white dotting on ALL patients. But I disagree that there are not patients that have not had white dotting occur. Of course there are patients without white dotting. Just not all.

Most of these guys FUE was done with a punch size that was less than 1.0mm in size.

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hairtech,
good to see you posting :slight_smile:

I fully accept that some people get minimal scarring from FUE, I figure it is a combination of tool size and the individual healing characteristics of the customer (would you say that is right ?).

Spanish Dude and I have a disagreement, even if a customer gets minimal scarring I think that an FUE expert (and I consider you an expert) could detect that an FUE procedure had been done in a client who had received 1,200 FUE grafts - I figure to a trained eye the pattern of the gaps would be apparent.

If the customer buzzed to a zero guard (i.e. as short as you want) and you inspected their head with all the tools you wanted at your disposal could you detect it ?

Thanks for your help in this matter. If you say that you would be incapable of detecting it I would have to accept that as very strong evidence that I am wrong on this matter - but at the moment I don’t think I am.

Skywalker.

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» I agree and disagree. I agree that not one FUE clinic can perform FUE
» without white dotting on ALL patients. But I disagree that there are not
» patients that have not had white dotting occur. Of course there are
» patients without white dotting. Just not all.
»
» Most of these guys FUE was done with a punch size that was less than 1.0mm
» in size.

I guess it depends on how closely you want to examine the donor and what are your standards in determining what constitute white dots. All hair transplants create scarring of some sort, I do not believe there is a technique that is 100% scar free, that’s my point.