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Experimenting on Monkeys


#1

Instead of doing studies, research, and experiments on mice and rats why aren’t they being conducted on monkeys instead? Monkeys are far more similar to humans than rats or mice. They’re both living creatures and both have feelings. Why is one okay to be experimented on and one is not? We even conduct experiments on humans, but not monkeys? We’d have so many cures to deadly diseases and a balding cure would be a few steps closer to reality. Afterall, there are quite a few diseases that humans and monkeys share.


#2

» Instead of doing studies, research, and experiments on mice and rats why
» aren’t they being conducted on monkeys instead? Monkeys are far more
» similar to humans than rats or mice. They’re both living creatures and both
» have feelings. Why is one okay to be experimented on and one is not? We
» even conduct experiments on humans, but not monkeys? We’d have so many
» cures to deadly diseases and a balding cure would be a few steps closer to
» reality. Afterall, there are quite a few diseases that humans and monkeys
» share.

Right off the top of my head I would say money.

Stole this off the internet, but it sums up my first thoughts. Mice are similar to humans in their reactions to medicines and stimulus. Mice need only a small space footprint in the lab, and need little food and water. Mice reproduce quickly, so the impacts to subsequent generations can be studied, and there are few issues with replenishment of the mice subjects.


#3

Monkeys draw too much ire from animal rights people too.

in the big picture, I don’t think monkeys are THAT much better than mice. Especially for our purposes. They’re closer but they’re not close yet.

At the genetic level, modern humans seem to be an extra notch removed from everything else. Even the next primates down the list.

Even ancient Neanderthal DNA has tested to be much farther apart from us than we expected. And those things were so close to modern humans that we wonder if there was interbreeding.


#4

» Instead of doing studies, research, and experiments on mice and rats why
» aren’t they being conducted on monkeys instead? Monkeys are far more
» similar to humans than rats or mice. They’re both living creatures and both
» have feelings. Why is one okay to be experimented on and one is not? We
» even conduct experiments on humans, but not monkeys? We’d have so many
» cures to deadly diseases and a balding cure would be a few steps closer to
» reality. Afterall, there are quite a few diseases that humans and monkeys
» share.

PETA


#5

» Monkeys draw too much ire from animal rights people too.
»
»
»
» in the big picture, I don’t think monkeys are THAT much better than mice.
» Especially for our purposes. They’re closer but they’re not close yet.
»
» At the genetic level, modern humans seem to be an extra notch removed from
» everything else. Even the next primates down the list.
»
» Even ancient Neanderthal DNA has tested to be much farther apart from us
» than we expected. And those things were so close to modern humans that we
» wonder if there was interbreeding.

Actually the stump tail macque is the only animal that suffers from baldness like humans. It is the ideal test subject since it appears the reason they lose their hair is close to identical to humans.


#6

Mice are Free, and are not really that protected, I mean mice are legally considered FOOD, you can go buy mice in a petstore to feed your snake, and they allow and encourage it

Monkeys get PETA in a lather and also are expensive


#7

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» Actually the stump tail macque is the only animal that suffers from
» baldness like humans. It is the ideal test subject since it appears the
» reason they lose their hair is close to identical to humans.

Bonoboos, orangutans, and chimps also bald. Bonoboos bald very regularily.

No apes exhibit the immuno-characteristic to their balding that I know of. The stumptailed macaque does not (Hideo Uno mentioned this in the literature). Thats why the apes respond so much better to finasteride than we do. Im pretty confident that as we lose the CD200 immuno-marker cells around hair cells, the hair-cells immuno priveledge is revoked and this is probably the main reason why long-miniaturaized vellus hair in humans does not want to grow back when anti-androgens are used like finas/dutas.

Weve seen that human vellus hairs will re-enlarge to about 50% of normal size when grafted on immuno-deficient mice, just as well as donor-area hairs grew (about half size) when grafted to the same mice. The only reason I can think of for this is that our immune system keeps them suppressed.


#8

Maybe we can get the monkeys to sign a waiver

» Instead of doing studies, research, and experiments on mice and rats why
» aren’t they being conducted on monkeys instead? Monkeys are far more
» similar to humans than rats or mice. They’re both living creatures and both
» have feelings. Why is one okay to be experimented on and one is not? We
» even conduct experiments on humans, but not monkeys? We’d have so many
» cures to deadly diseases and a balding cure would be a few steps closer to
» reality. Afterall, there are quite a few diseases that humans and monkeys
» share.