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Examples of wounds healed without ACELL & Human fingertip regrowth


#1

http://www.woundade.com/testimonial-terik.htm

http://www.woundade.com/testimonial-normas.htm

damn I cant see much difference between this and acell really

Also here’s some info the fckhrls “troll” found that explains that you dont need acell to regrow your fingertips:

“The phenomenon of fingertip regeneration in humans was initially described for children, but later shown to extend to adults. For both children and adults, regeneration of the fingertip involves the integrated regeneration of many tissues, including nail matrix, nail bed, finger pulp, sensory organs, dermis and epidermis, all of which reform to a normal or near normal cosmetic and physiological state through healing by secondary intention. Animal models for digit tip regeneration in adults demonstrate distal bone growth associated with a regeneration response. There also several documented instances of regeneration of the distal phalangeal element of the toe following traumatin injury or voluntary resection to relieve hammer toe, thus, it would appear that the regenerative capabilities in human limbs includes the tips of both fingers and toes.”

http://course1.winona.edu/lreuter/309/ab00/Regeneratio.htm


#2

Shall we?

BENOXAPROFEN ==============================

they mention some nasty side effects. but here’s something that cought my eye:

The density of new hair growth on the scalp was equal to that on the areas of his scalp that were not subject to balding

they also mention that this was on areas that were completely bald.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=1498062&pageindex=1

GEFINITIB ===============================


#3

there is clear visible scarring on the dog’s face - which is somewhat minimized by the fact that the picture is blurry.


#4

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#5

» there is clear visible scarring on the dog’s face - which is somewhat
» minimized by the fact that the picture is blurry.

yes I see that. That is the same as on some ACELL dog pics. some healed very well some left a tiny scar.

Also notice that this dog grew new hair and the effect is not just caused by that they would sew the wound together. Its visible if you try to compare the pattern of his hair colour from before to after.


#6

» Shall we?
»
» BENOXAPROFEN ==============================
»
» they mention some nasty side effects. but here’s something that cought my
» eye:
»
» The density of new hair growth on the scalp was equal to that on the
» areas of his scalp that were not subject to balding

»
» they also mention that this was on areas that were completely
» bald.

»
» http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=1498062&pageindex=1
»
»
» GEFINITIB ===============================
»
»

At the least, this could mean that even when bald, the hair follicles are not destroyed forever.


#7

» At the least, this could mean that even when bald, the hair follicles are
» not destroyed forever.

the consensus says that they are new follicles


#8

» » At the least, this could mean that even when bald, the hair follicles
» are
» » not destroyed forever.
»
» the consensus says that they are new follicles

I dont care :slight_smile: Its the results I’m after :slight_smile:

I’ve spent last hour trying to find something that BENOXAPROFEN and GEFINITIB have in common. So far I failed.

Does not make sense to me.


#9

Hardly a 5 by 5 gaping wound to regenerate skin. More like a slash. And you can see the slash scar in the second pic.

» http://www.woundade.com/testimonial-terik.htm
»
» http://www.woundade.com/testimonial-normas.htm
»
»
»
»
»
» damn I cant see much difference between this and acell really
»
» Also here’s some info the fckhrls “troll” found that explains that you
» dont need acell to regrow your fingertips:
»
» “The phenomenon of fingertip regeneration in humans was initially
» described for children, but later shown to extend to adults. For both
» children and adults, regeneration of the fingertip involves the integrated
» regeneration of many tissues, including nail matrix, nail bed, finger pulp,
» sensory organs, dermis and epidermis, all of which reform to a normal or
» near normal cosmetic and physiological state through healing by secondary
» intention. Animal models for digit tip regeneration in adults demonstrate
» distal bone growth associated with a regeneration response. There also
» several documented instances of regeneration of the distal phalangeal
» element of the toe following traumatin injury or voluntary resection to
» relieve hammer toe, thus, it would appear that the regenerative
» capabilities in human limbs includes the tips of both fingers and toes.”
»
» http://course1.winona.edu/lreuter/309/ab00/Regeneratio.htm


#10

It shows that animals regrow hair without any magic. They are able to regrow it on their own. This kinda suggests that the guys are right when they say that we have no reason to think that ACELL would grow hair in humans.

Compare it with this:

http://www.acell.com/fancy.php

its imho pretty much very the same type of healing.

See this horse … no acell

http://www.woundade.com/testimonial-terik.htm

and yet, it healed almost perfectly.


#11

I spoke to my folks today. I was told my grandmother had a toenail removed - it took over 6 months for it to grow back. My mother sliced a small piece of her fingertip (just the skin - no fingernail or bone) - it took 3 months to grow back the skin, and the fingerprint is slightly off. My father lost 90% of his index finger fingernail - it grew back in a little over four months, and it’s a different color. Also there was no mention of quicker fingernail growth.

It took the Acell guy 4 weeks to grow back his finger. 4 months to grow back his entire fingernail and fingerprint. It’s NOT a stark difference I know, but he did heal quicker than my family members (without the aid of Acell), and he was much older.

So I guess it’s not a question if you can heal without Acell (because obvioulsy you can), it’s really a question of how much quicker you’ll heal with Acell.

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#12

I dont care how much quicker. All I care is if it grows hair. And chances of this are much lower now when we know that fingertip regrowth or the animal hair regrowth are probably not ACELL induced.

This think has no evidence of being the cause of growing hair. Anyway yes it may grow hair. But now its a bit like thinking that some healing creme that speeds up healing would grow hair. Not totally because they really are still serious on it for regeneration, but still, I can easily imagine it wont work at all for the hair. If animal can grow hair on its own after wounding and we clearly cant (at least not in most cases), then chances are that ACELL wont make it much different.

Anyway we should know soon. Though I’m a bit affraid that the champaingne will stay in the bottle.

»
» So I guess it’s not a question if you can heal without Acell (because
» obvioulsy you can), it’s really a question of how much quicker you’ll heal
» with Acell.
»
»
» .


#13

whoa. hold on there horsy!!! The title of your thread said “Examples of wounds healed without ACELL & Human fingertip regrowth”. I gave you the best real world examples I could find. The title of your thread didn’t say “& Human hair regrowth”.

Personally, I think the whole notion of quicker healing has relevance in our discussions. Perhaps Acell could be used as a catalyst with a regime to speed up hair growth and/ or cycling. Maybe it could be formulated as a stop-gap measure for balding people until something real comes along, or maybe not. In any case, I thing quicker healing is a big deal.

If you want me to get you better proof than give me $200,000 and ten years so I can get a medical degree, or we can wait for the doctors’ results using Acell.

» I dont care how much quicker. All I care is if it grows hair. And chances
» of this are much lower now when we know that fingertip regrowth or the
» animal hair regrowth are probably not ACELL induced.
»
» This think has no evidence of being the cause of growing hair. Anyway yes
» it may grow hair. But now its a bit like thinking that some healing creme
» that speeds up healing would grow hair. Not totally because they really are
» still serious on it for regeneration, but still, I can easily imagine it
» wont work at all for the hair. If animal can grow hair on its own after
» wounding and we clearly cant (at least not in most cases), then chances are
» that ACELL wont make it much different.
»
» Anyway we should know soon. Though I’m a bit affraid that the champaingne
» will stay in the bottle.


#14

I guess we’ll wait :slight_smile:

Damn this sucks, why just any hope always has to have some flaw. And, why that flaw always buries the hope.


#15

that pic of the animals the wounds were not naturally healed, they are testimonials of a product sprayed on it called woundade. Dunno whats in wound ade but soudns like its ingridients support the bodys cell structure