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Dr Rassman\'s Reaction to ICX-TRC Photos


#1

I know many follow Dr Rassman’s. In case you haven’t seen it, here’s his reaction to the before/after photos cockneyninja posted:

“I appreciate your reference here [to the Intecytex before/after photos]. Our readership should find it interesting. I believe that we will see the answer sooner or later and this company may have the solution, but I think it is probable that if this is shown to be effective, approval may take years.”

I think Dr Rassman’s reaction is pretty balanced. But what surprised me is that this is the first time I’ve seen him actually admit that Intercytex may have a solution. In fact, he’s been revising his statements about HM over the past 1-2 years. Just a few years ago he’s predicting 20+, then last year 10-20, and now just “years”. Just one doc’s opinion, and a doc who I frankly think doesn’t know much about hair loss drugs or hair multiplication, but interesting nonetheless.

All the best,
BB


#2

My opinion is that he’s quite fair guy. He just was never so desperate so it is logical that his scepticism is greater than the average opinion in here. If I was not balding I would not research hm so much as I did and would probably think that hm is a genetic trait that can never be cured as every other non balding guy does.


#3

» My opinion is that he’s quite fair guy. He just was never so desperate so
» it is logical that his scepticism is greater than the average opinion in
» here. If I was not balding I would not research hm so much as I did and
» would probably think that hm is a genetic trait that can never be cured as
» every other non balding guy does.

After what Rassman did to Woods, I’ll never think of him as a fair guy. I mean, he actually went to one of Wood’s early presentations for FUE and had to be escorted out of the door. He was extremely disruptive and called Woods a fraud saying the technique would never work. Sometime later, he published FUE research and claimed to be the inventor. Ever since, he has been running Woods down and claiming he is a 2nd-rate doctor and that he never invented anything. It is one thing to rip someone off, and an entirely different thing to hideously slander the person you stole from. I have absolutely no respect for Rassman. Once he realizes that he has been totally wrong about HM, I totally expect him to pretend to be the world’s foremost expert on the subject.

But that’s just my 2cents of course :slight_smile:


#4

Haha… you are defending Woods against criticism from one surgeon? Woods, who has insulted any surgeon who tries to perform FUE, made amateurish posts against patients on an internet website, never liked competitor results, never shared results, charged 100k for so so results etc…

You need brain multiplication more than hair multiplication.


#5

tembo:

JB certainly does not need a BM (Brain Multiplication). He is one, sharp cookie and has contributed more than anyone else to this forum!

Now, about the good Dr. Woods. He may be the inventor of FUE, but his results are absolutely horrible. He charges up the wazoo for VERY MEDIOCRE results. I have seen some of his patients who spent upwards of $50k with very little to show for that money. He has been very critical of other surgeons who perform FUE cheaper and better than he does. He even keeps his instruments out of the patient’s view so that they do not spread the word about his magical instruments. IMO, Woods is a joke. Dr. Rassman is also a joke. There are MUCH better FUE/HT surgeons than those two. So, I agree 100% with your assessment of Woods. I was told by my first HT surgeon back in 1996 that there were surgeons (in Canada, I believe), that were extracting and transplanting single-hair grafts back in the 80’s. Saying that Woods is the “inventor” is debatable.


#6

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#7

I’ve never heard this story :). …

» » My opinion is that he’s quite fair guy. He just was never so desperate
» so
» » it is logical that his scepticism is greater than the average opinion
» in
» » here. If I was not balding I would not research hm so much as I did and
» » would probably think that hm is a genetic trait that can never be cured
» as
» » every other non balding guy does.
»
» After what Rassman did to Woods, I’ll never think of him as a fair guy. I
» mean, he actually went to one of Wood’s early presentations for FUE and
» had to be escorted out of the door. He was extremely disruptive and called
» Woods a fraud saying the technique would never work. Sometime later, he
» published FUE research and claimed to be the inventor. Ever since, he has
» been running Woods down and claiming he is a 2nd-rate doctor and that he
» never invented anything. It is one thing to rip someone off, and an
» entirely different thing to hideously slander the person you stole from. I
» have absolutely no respect for Rassman. Once he realizes that he has been
» totally wrong about HM, I totally expect him to pretend to be the world’s
» foremost expert on the subject.
»
» But that’s just my 2cents of course :slight_smile:


#8

rassman doesnt seem to be a person i would follow especially his medical opinions. he’s such a major negative energy on any subject not surrounding his own work it’s ridiculous. he’s bashed HM for years and now is slowly changing his tune because as with every comment he makes is based on a biased opinion with an agenda.

woods aint exactly mr personality, but at least he has some landmark cases in his early days of FUE (when nobody else was doing it) and contributed a lot to the hairloss community.


#9

Woods is a joke???

If he was not around maybe the only option today would have been strip.And his results are mostly on people with advanced norwwods without Propecia or Dut to boost the results.

Woods is not a joke and i find you very unfair. He is not the savour or a saint or our favorite poster :slight_smile: but a joke???!!!

Now regarding Rassman i didnt know the story with Woods is it real?


#10

» Woods is a joke???
»
» If he was not around maybe the only option today would have been strip.And
» his results are mostly on people with advanced norwwods without Propecia or
» Dut to boost the results.
»
» Woods is not a joke and i find you very unfair. He is not the savour or a
» saint or our favorite poster :slight_smile: but a joke???!!!
»
» Now regarding Rassman i didnt know the story with Woods is it real?

who said woods was a joke???


#11

Woods is a joke with respect to the fact that many guys have flown half way around the world for God knows how much and paid Woods God knows how much to have a meager, little session of FUE. He refuses to do anything close to a “megasession” FUE which is now quite common and considered safe. You can hardly tell the difference between pre- and post-op with his patients. Although he has “invented” FUE, you cannot honestly say that you are impressed with ANY of his results. So what if his results are without Dut or Propecia - this implies that either he or his patients are quite stupid not to recommend/use these treatments as an adjuvant to transplants - what is your point here???


#12

Dr. Woods can do megasessions too if he hires a technician to do most of the work just like what most other doctors do. Till this date, he is still the only doctor I know who allows his patients to view the entire procedure in real time via the camera system he has in place. Patients can see for themselves how he treats each and every single follicle with care throughout the entire process. His FUE and BHT yield is probably the best and the most consistent out there.


#13

His skill as a surgeon is certainly not debatable. His artistic abilities (ability to place grafts to mimic nature) are questionable, at best. He has chosen to do the whole procedure by himself which, obviously, limits the amount of work that can be done in one session - there are not too many guys out there that can afford to go back again and again to Australia for small sessions. The last time I checked, his sessions are not based on graft numbers. From what I hear, he does allow the patient to view the placement, but not the extraction - I could be wrong about this - maybe he has changed. Nobody knows what kind/size of instruments he uses - again, maybe this has changed since I don’t keep up with him. He has repeatedly belittled other surgeons on your forum and questioned their abilities with an arrogance like no other.


#14

» Woods is a joke with respect to the fact that many guys have flown half way
» around the world for God knows how much and paid Woods God knows how much
» to have a meager, little session of FUE. He refuses to do anything close
» to a “megasession” FUE which is now quite common and considered safe. You
» can hardly tell the difference between pre- and post-op with his patients.
» Although he has “invented” FUE, you cannot honestly say that you are
» impressed with ANY of his results. So what if his results are without Dut
» or Propecia - this implies that either he or his patients are quite stupid
» not to recommend/use these treatments as an adjuvant to transplants - what
» is your point here???

He actually believes that fin might cause osteoporosis in the long term and he does not recommend his patients to use this drug for life.He is a good doctor and he charges a lot because he is doing everything him self.armani is charging 14$ per graft and he has techs doing most of the work.
A joke!!!..there are many jokes in the transplant business but certainly not this guy


#15

The list of top HT surgeons is fairly short - Armani, Hasson & Wong, Cole, Wolf, and a few others including Woods. If cost and location were NOT an issue, Woods would be the LAST surgeon that I would choose. This is the first time that I have ever heard that Fin could be linked to osteoporosis.


#16

» Haha… you are defending Woods against criticism from one surgeon?
» Woods, who has insulted any surgeon who tries to perform FUE, made
» amateurish posts against patients on an internet website, never liked
» competitor results, never shared results, charged 100k for so so results
» etc…
»
» You need brain multiplication more than hair multiplication.

Dr. Woods is the “main” person who pioneered FUE. Maybe some others were working similar ground before/during Wood’s work, but it is Woods that really started this revolution we think of as FUE. For Rassman to claim that he invented the procedure is not being “fair.” In fact, it is downright unethical IMO. I’m not defending Woods at all, nor did I state anywhere in my post that I thought of him as a saint. If you actually take the time to go back and read my post, you will discover that I stated that Rassman’s actions in this matter were unethical. The part about Wood’s being a saint is purely a figment of your imagination.

Please try to stick with the facts and stay away from emotion-based judgements.


#17

I have seen many ht’s before I even went over 4 years ago that looked natural to me. Or I would have not made the trip. And tell you the tuth mine turned out excellent as many people here have seen me in the past. Now what you are saying about going back and forth to Australia true it is far but we have a choice on what we feel comfortable with to wear the rest of our lives on our head and I would do it again in a minute if I had to. Any way it’s a numbers game and that goes back to what you said about comapring results. I have seen up to 4500 on his patients in person and looks as natural as ever . David has also. So it’s all a matter of opinion I guess. And as far as seeing the tools I can care less what he uses all I know is all my grafts grew and I got what I paid for.


#18

» He has
» repeatedly belittled other surgeons on your forum and questioned their
» abilities with an arrogance like no other.

It is true that others have built upon Wood’s original discovery, but that is the norm in medical/scientific invention. Take a look at Gho as an example. What you see is extremely common. Ideas get built over time by many different minds coming along and building upon what others have done before them. As arrogant as Isaac Newton was, even he admitted to this fact, and his quote of this admission is one of his more famous quotes.

I have noticed that other surgeons have very little respect for Dr. Woods–despite the fact they are making many millions of dollars off of his original pioneering efforts. I am somewhat shocked by their lack of respect for his efforts. However, perhaps this got started from Woods attacking them for his belief that they are ripping-off his technique without due respect or appreciation. I really don’t know about that aspect of this, and I also don’t feel it is extremely important to figure out. What I know is that all of the bickering between these doctors that I have seen on the forums really sours my stomach. This is totally unprofessional behavior IMO, and it has not been limited to just one physician. These people are professionals, and they really need to try to put their patients best interests in front of their own egos and wallets. Unfortunately, the HT industry is not exactly a mecca of spiritual enlightenment.


#19

Franklin:

I could not agree with you more. If you are happy with your results, that is all that matters. Is Dr. Woods a pioneer? - No question about that. Is Dr. Woods the best at what he does? - Not in my opinion. That is what is so great about forums like this one - you can state your opinion.


#20

“I have noticed that other surgeons have very little respect for Dr. Woods–despite the fact they are making many millions of dollars off of his original pioneering efforts.”

That is clearly a two-way street.