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Dr. Gho publishes article in the Journal of Dermatological Treatment


#21

» Where are the photos of full restauration? And why Gho himself is
» balding?

Gho could easily disguise his limited balding with traditional FUE if it were important to him. The fact that he doesn’t shows he’s quite mentally healthy and has high self esteem, despite his slightly imperfect hair.

» And these claims are against experience reported by bverotti from
» ProHairClinic in Belgium. Bverotti says that he receives Gho’s patients,
» and every time he sees white dots in the donor area without any sign of
» regeneration
. He says that it looks like normal FUE. And he says that
» this is so, even with new Gho’s technique (HST).

One of these guys is lying. I’m more inclined to believe the guy whose claims are backed up by peer-reviewed scientific research with famous co-authors than I am a HT clinic that uses photo evidence to prove its claims. That is a very old and tired way of luring in patients, and most informed prospective patients know better than to trust it. Speaking of photo evidence, why hasn’t bverotti posted photos of Gho’s ex-patients in order to prove his claims? I suspect its because he knows he could be sued out of existence if it turned out his claims were false.

» Just imagine: Gho is a legit doctor, a pioneer, he has
» invented something new, all the other doctors know that Gho is correct, but
» they are so evil that invent lies to discredit him!! Do you think this is
» credible? Gho has a small clinic, and represents little competition to
» other HT doctors. It is ridiculous to think that all the HT doctors would
» organize a conspiration against Gho if he was legit.

Well, a similar phenomenon occurred a hundred years ago when Nikola Tesla invented radio. Keep in mind, Tesla had the patents, and evil men conspired against him in the name of making money. They teach you in school that Marconi invented radio, despite the supreme court having ruled Tesla’s patents proved he is the real inventor of radio. Edison, Marconi, and Morgan made a fortune from tying the case up in court long enough for Tesla to die and never receive a penny off his invention. Once he was dead, they owed him nothing for patent infringement.

Gho’s HST technique is patent protected. If it turns out it even provides a guaranteed minimum 50% regrowth in the donor, regular HT businesses will not be able to compete and go out of business. I used to think other clinics were not in danger because Gho had seemingly poor HT placement technique, and his technology was extremely immature. However, his work on Joling shows that he has probably caught up to the best clinics in the world as far as placement technique, and his latest research study appears to indicate he has nailed the donor and recipient regrowth. This is shaping up to be an extremely interesting situation.

If this study holds (published peer reviewed studies are typically duplicated by other researchers in order to prove or disprove the claims), other clinics are in big trouble if they can’t figure out a way around the patent.

One thing is for sure. Publishing this study has let the cat out of the bag, and the truth will come out sooner rather than later. Any HT clinic in the world can easily perform a small scale study in order to test the donor regrowth claims and publish the outcome.

Gho’s publication of this study is visual enough to all that it could be the catalyst of the biggest advance in HT in 50 years. The world will not sit by idly and ignore these claims without testing them first hand. We will soon know the truth, but expect many malicious attacks and potential phony studies in the meantime. The key is to not trust studies and claims not published in peer reviewed journals.

This thing could get ugly, because big money is at stake. Gho is essentially claiming to have cured baldness by solving the donor limitation problem. Trust me when I say the ISHRS will be all over this. No longer can claims be made that Gho is hiding behind a small clinic in the middle of nowhere selling fake HM. Those claims are dead. His claims are fully out in the open and fully exposed to the entire scientific community, and he knows as well as anyone that he is currently at war with the ISHRS. They have many hair scientists in their organization, and they will test his claims. He would not have published this study if he did not feel prepared to take on the entire HT world. In addition, the journal would not publish if they didn’t believe it to be factual. It’s the mouse against the giant, and Gho looks as though he has prepared himself for the battle.

»
» It is curious, that Gho says that 100% recipient-site hairs survive after
» 1 year, and 100% donor hairs survive at 3 months, but he doesn’t say if
» these donor hairs survive at 1 year
. If Gho has not evaluated the donor
» regeneration long term, then this study is of little value.
» You say that after 10 months, donor hairs remodel themselves and are
» totally recovered (Dr. Kim study). I would like to see if this is the case
» for Gho’s technique.

The transected donor follicles are not a problem. Kim showed they fully remodel into fully functioning follicles complete with new sebaceous glands. Kim’s problem was he removed the follicles from the skin, transected them, and reimplanted them. He could not get them to regrow consistently.

Dr. Gho claimed years ago that he overcame the consistency problem by transecting them in the skin. Thus, they did not undergo the same level of trauma as complete removal. An Italian HT clinic put his claims to the test and found that 72% of the follicles transected at the lower third (old FM technique) regrew. However, they could not get the upper 2/3rds recipient grafts to consistently produce hair and abandoned the technique.

It’s important to note, that they soaked the grafts in saline solution prior to implanting them. Swinehart showed years earlier that soaking upper 2/3rds follicles in saline solution prior to implantation led to inconsistent regeneration. Only a portion of the follicles regenerated and grew hair. Much of this hair was thinner than normal.

Gho claims to have solved the problem by soaking the grafts in HM culture medium prior to implantation instead of saline solution. Saline solution causes cell death. This is a well-known phenomenon. In contrast, hair growth factors cause hair follicles to regenerate. In fact, these growth factors are what make up Histogen’s very promising hair regrowth product. Even without the stem cells they can cause follicles to remodel themselves and grow healthy hair. This is because baldness is caused by a breakdown in the signaling system that causes the hair follicle to remodel itself after the resting phase. The growth factors help to revitalize the signaling environment. When you add in the activated stem cells that result from transecting the follicles, you have a master signaling system that causes consistent remodeling of the transected follicles.

This is not some far fetched whacked out science. Each time your hair rests, it must fully remodel the lower third of the follicle prior to being able to grow hair again. Gho’s technique capitalizes on this completely natural phenomenon. The key is to provide the proper growth factors to allow it to work consistently. For that, you need specialized knowledge in stem cell science. 99.9% of HT doctors lack this specialized understanding. That’s why they will be able to easily reproduce the donor regrowth but won’t be able to get the recipient to grow. Just like the Italian HT clinic that tried to duplicate Gho’s work, they will not be able to offer a commercially viable technique without the use of Gho’s patented proprietary growth formulation.

Donor regrowth is real, and it has been independently verified. Soon it will be verified in a much more visual manner than the Italian study. The big question is how consistent Gho’s donor regrowth is? His latest published study is the most exciting thing to come along in the HT field in many, many years. He claims 95+% regrowth, which is effectively a cure. Soon enough the claim will either be verified or disproven. Knowing this, why would Gho and his famous co-author lie and destroy their careers?

Publishing this study would be the death of their careers, reputations, and livelihoods if it were false. Are others suggesting in order to get a few extra profits over the next 2-year period before their careers are over, that they somehow can afford to throw away a lifetime worth of income? Game theory suggests otherwise. This is shaping up to be the most important advance in HT technology in the last 50 years.

Dr. Woods took a lot of heat from other HT surgeons when he pioneered the Wood’s technique. Guys like Cole gave him a lot of respect and learned enough from him to develop their own version of the technique and become among the top HT surgeons in the world. Others, damaged Wood’s reputation before eventually developing their own versions of the technique never giving Woods the credit he deserves. That’s typical of how these advances are accepted. To put things in prospective, Gho’s advance is far, far beyond Woods. Expect the rhetoric to be much greater.

Gho told me he would eventually publish HST. It took him about 4 years to do it, but now the thing is fully out in public view, and the next step is in the hands of the scientific community.


#22

» If bverotti is lying, and he is inventing everything to discredit Gho,
» that would mean that Bverotti is a terrible evil man. It would be so evil,
» that it would be difficult for me to conceive.

This sucker is lying all the time – for example:


bverotti 12/25/09:
Hi All Forum readers,

Today I would like to announce that at the end of this year Dr. De Reys will retire his active career as a Doctor completely.
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-61520.html#p61604

After he leaved the ProHairClinic (because he couldn’t endure this sucker anymore), Dr. De Reys established his own FUE clinic immediately thereafter
http://mosesmedicaltv.blogspot.com/2010/01/dr-de-reys-eroffnet-sein-eigene-klinik.html
(Title in English: “Dr. De Reys opens his own clinic”)


#23

» » Where are the photos of full restauration? And why Gho himself is
» » balding?

»
» Gho could easily disguise his limited balding with traditional FUE if it
» were important to him. The fact that he doesn’t shows he’s quite mentally
» healthy and has high self esteem, despite his slightly imperfect hair.

Gho’s baldnes is weird. And adds to the uncertainty.

» One of these guys is lying. I’m more inclined to believe the guy whose
» claims are backed up by peer-reviewed scientific research with famous
» co-authors than I am a HT clinic that uses photo evidence to prove its
» claims. That is a very old and tired way of luring in patients, and most
» informed prospective patients know better than to trust it. Speaking of
» photo evidence, why hasn’t bverotti posted photos of Gho’s ex-patients in
» order to prove his claims? I suspect its because he knows he could be sued
» out of existence if it turned out his claims were false.

well, bverotti has repeatedly said that Gho is a fraüd. Gho has threatened him with lawyers, and bverotti keeps saying that Gho is a fraüd. He must have proof, I guess. He and the other 5 clinics that are resisting Gho’s pressures. We will see if Gho is able to make them all rectify.
I don’t know why bverotti doesn’t go ahead and publishes photos of former Gho patients, and engage with Gho, once and for all.

You say that Gho is a threat for regular HT doctors, and this is why these doctors want to destroy him. I don’t agree. Gho has a small clinic, and he cannot serve many patients. He is not a threat for anyone. If his terchnique worked, these doctors from the Benelux, instead of attacking him, they would try to buy the rights from Gho.
In order to be a threat for other clinics, he would have to expand his business, and he would have to teach his technique to other doctors, but apparently, he is not willing to do that, because they could “steal his secret”, or simply because his technique doesn’t work.
If Gho doesn’t license, he will be small, and he won’t be a threat for other HT docs.
If Gho licenses, these other HT docs could buy the technology and benefit from it.

as you see, in either case, the conspiration against Gho makes no sense.

»
» » Just imagine: Gho is a legit doctor, a pioneer, he has
» » invented something new, all the other doctors know that Gho is correct,
» but
» » they are so evil that invent lies to discredit him!! Do you think this
» is
» » credible? Gho has a small clinic, and represents little competition
» to
» » other HT doctors. It is ridiculous to think that all the HT doctors
» would
» » organize a conspiration against Gho if he was legit.

»
»
»
» Gho’s HST technique is patent protected. If it turns out it even provides
» a guaranteed minimum 50% regrowth in the donor, regular HT businesses will
» not be able to compete and go out of business. I used to think other
» clinics were not in danger because Gho had seemingly poor HT placement
» technique, and his technology was extremely immature. However, his work on
» Joling shows that he has probably caught up to the best clinics in the
» world as far as placement technique, and his latest research study appears
» to indicate he has nailed the donor and recipient regrowth. This is shaping
» up to be an extremely interesting situation.
»
» If this study holds (published peer reviewed studies are typically
» duplicated by other researchers in order to prove or disprove the claims),
» other clinics are in big trouble if they can’t figure out a way around the
» patent.

I doubt that other researchers can duplicate Gho’s technique if he doesn’t specify the “secret details”.

»
» One thing is for sure. Publishing this study has let the cat out of the
» bag, and the truth will come out sooner rather than later. Any HT clinic in
» the world can easily perform a small scale study in order to test the donor
» regrowth claims and publish the outcome.

How? If they don’t know the “secret details” they won’t be able to test it.

»
» Gho’s publication of this study is visual enough to all that it could be
» the catalyst of the biggest advance in HT in 50 years. The world will not
» sit by idly and ignore these claims without testing them first hand.

How? Do you think Gho is publishing the “how to do it” in the article? So that other doctors can rip-off his supposed miracle-technique?

We
» will soon know the truth, but expect many malicious attacks and potential
» phony studies in the meantime. The key is to not trust studies and claims
» not published in peer reviewed journals.
»
» This thing could get ugly, because big money is at stake. Gho is
» essentially claiming to have cured baldness by solving the donor limitation
» problem. Trust me when I say the ISHRS will be all over this. No longer can
» claims be made that Gho is hiding behind a small clinic in the middle of
» nowhere selling fake HM. Those claims are dead. His claims are fully out in
» the open and fully exposed to the entire scientific community, and he knows
» as well as anyone that he is currently at war with the ISHRS. They have
» many hair scientists in their organization, and they will test his claims.
» He would not have posted this study if he did not feel prepared to take on
» the entire HT world. It’s the mouse against the giant, and Gho looks as
» though he has prepared himself for the battle.

again, if he doesn’t say how he does it, there is no way to verify his claims, and we will be back to the start.

»
» The transected donor follicles are not a problem. Kim showed they fully
» remodel into fully functioning follicles complete with new sebaceous
» glands. Kim’s problem was he removed the follicles from the skin,
» transected them, and reimplanted them. He could not get them to regrow
» consistently.
»
» Dr. Gho claimed years ago that he overcame the consistency problem by
» transecting them in the skin. Thus, they did not undergo the same level of
» trauma as complete removal. An Italian HT clinic put his claims to the test
» and found that 72% of the follicles transected at the lower third (old FM
» technique) regrew. However, they could not get the upper 2/3rds recipient
» grafts to consistently produce hair and abandoned the technique.
»
» It’s important to note, that they soaked the grafts in saline solution
» prior to implanting them. Swinehart showed years earlier that soaking upper
» 2/3rds follicles in saline solution prior to implantation led to
» inconsistent regeneration. Only a portion of the follicles regenerated and
» grew hair. Much of this hair was thinner than normal.
»
» Gho claims to have solved the problem by soaking the grafts in HM culture
» medium prior to implantation instead of saline solution. Saline solution
» causes cell death. This is a well-known phenomenon. In contrast, hair
» growth factors cause hair follicles to regenerate. In fact, these growth
» factors are what make up Histogen’s very promising hair regrowth product.
» Even without the stem cells they can cause follicles to remodel themselves
» and grow healthy hair.

We will see if the article proves this “remodeling” of the donor.

This is because baldness is caused by a breakdown in
» the signaling system that causes the hair follicle to remodel itself after
» the resting phase. The growth factors help to revitalize the signaling
» environment.
»
» Each time your hair rests, it must fully remodel the lower third of the
» follicle prior to being able to grow hair again. DHT binds to receptors on
» the master cells that direct this communication, and they no longer
» orchestrate the proper signals. Without the right signals, your follicle
» cannot remodel itself and grow thick hair. What most people don’t
» understand about HM is that your body already performs natural HM every
» time your follicles cycle. HM is not magical pseudo-science. It’s the
» restoration of a very natural process that your body repeats thousands of
» times every year.
»
» Donor regrowth is real, and it has been independently verified. Soon it
» will be verified in a much more visual manner than the Italian study. The
» big question is how consistent Gho’s donor regrowth is? His latest
» published study is the most exciting thing to come along in the HT field in
» many, many years. He claims 95% regrowth, which is effectively a cure. Soon
» enough the claim will either be verified or disproven. Knowing this, why
» would Gho and his famous co-author lie and destroy their careers?

Your interview with Gho was in Nov 2005. Back then, Gho claimed donor regrowth was higher than 80%. Now he says 95%. Basically, the picture is the same. According to him, he already solved baldness in Nov 2005. This was 5 years ago. (almost). so I don’t know why you are so enthusiastic.

»
» Publishing this study would be the death of their careers, reputations,
» and livelihoods if it were false. Are others suggesting in order to get a
» few extra profits over the next 2-year period before their careers are
» over, that they somehow can afford to throw away a lifetime worth of
» income? Game theory suggests otherwise.

Again, if the article doesn’t provide instructions for peer researchers to duplicate Gho’s technique, then there is no way for the peers to test if Gho’s claims are true.


#24

Well, why do you say Bverotti is lying?
Can’t you consider the possibility that Dr. De Reys lied to ProHairClinic instead?
Now DeReys is competing wit ProHair, so the second possibility is more probable.

» » If bverotti is lying, and he is inventing everything to discredit
» Gho,
» » that would mean that Bverotti is a terrible evil man. It would be so
» evil,
» » that it would be difficult for me to conceive.
»
» This sucker is lying all the time – for example:
»
» ----------------------
» bverotti 12/25/09:
» Hi All Forum readers,
»
» Today I would like to announce that at the end of this year Dr. De Reys
» will retire his active career as a Doctor completely
.
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-61520.html#p61604
» ---------------------
»
» After he leaved the ProHairClinic (because he couldn’t endure this sucker
» anymore), Dr. De Reys established his own FUE clinic immediately
» thereafter

» http://mosesmedicaltv.blogspot.com/2010/01/dr-de-reys-eroffnet-sein-eigene-klinik.html
» (Title in English: “Dr. De Reys opens his own clinic”)


#25

» Well, why do you say Bverotti is lying?
» Can’t you consider the possibility that Dr. De Reys lied to ProHairClinic
» instead?

Hmm, maybe James Bond is more interested to discuss with a brain-dead guy Gho-related things … :smiley:


#26

» I doubt that other researchers can duplicate Gho’s technique if he doesn’t
» specify the “secret details”.

As I have repeatedly stated, the donor regrowth technique was easily repeated by a standard HT clinic in Italy. There are no secret details to getting donor regrowth. Anybody with HT surgery experience can do this. Recipient regrowth is the difficult aspect of this technique. However, my interview with Gho, along with standard research details in the publish study, reveal all the necessary details for any well-versed HM researcher to duplicate the procedure. I could easily duplicate the procedure, and I’m not even a HM scientist.

Gho has published his research in a prestigious peer-reviewed medical journal. The co-author of this study is one of the world’s most respected dermatological researchers. What don’t you get about that? Peer-reviewed journals have scientific advisers on staff who review the research prior to publication and will not publish research they suspect is non-legit. If the science was not sound, they would not publish this article.

This is a world-class medical journal. Don’t you get what’s happening? Do you think it’s just going to go unnoticed. This is the biggest breakthrough in HT in the last 50 years. It’s like a nuke going off in the HT community. This is huge news!

» Your interview with Gho was in Nov 2005. Back then, Gho claimed donor
» regrowth was higher than 80%. Now he says 95%. Basically, the picture is
» the same. According to him, he already solved baldness in Nov 2005. This
» was 5 years ago. (almost). so I don’t know why you are so enthusiastic.

Once again you fail to see the magnitude of this published study. There is an enormous difference between the doctor of a small clinic making a claim and publishing a cure for MPB in a prestigious peer-reviewed medical journal. This exposes the claim to the top hair scientists in the world who would quickly refute the claim if it was not true. This is exactly how medical breakthroughs are presented to other researchers in the world. It is their duty to reproduce the work and validate its legitimacy. This represents a massive step forward in the world of HT.

Gho has done everything right by publishing this study. The next step is in the hands of the scientific community at large.

Now let’s get on to this bverrotti guy. From what I can tell from a dutch television show, he or his peers pressured a doctor and tried to pass off 4 people who were not doctors as being doctors. The doctor who supposedly came out against Gho recanted and said he was pressured into going along with it. That makes bverrotti extremely untrustworthy IMO.

Gho responded to the allegations saying the research is sound and will be published in the future in a medical journal for all to examine. That day has come, and the research has been published. Suddenly, bverrotti and his entourage of fake doctors are looking like they don’t have the slightest clue of what they are talking about.


#27

You guys are still fighting over GHO?

Why IMHO :

  1. His thing works BUT

  2. Too expensive

  3. The time until you have a full head of hair


#28

I have been reading this Gho thing for quite sometime now including some older posts…
and all i can say is if all this GHO thing is real WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR HIM TO CLEARLY PROVE IT???
p.s–i have seen those extra magnified pics on his site and they dont tell anything substantial:(


#29

Gho has a small clinic, and he cannot serve many patients. He is not a threat for anyone. If his terchnique worked, these doctors from the Benelux, instead of attacking him, they would try to buy the rights from Gho.
In order to be a threat for other clinics, he would have to expand his business, and he would have to teach his technique to other doctors, but apparently, he is not willing to do that, because they could “steal his secret”, or simply because his technique doesn’t work.

From Dr Gho’s website:

At present, there are HSI clinics and consultancies in the Netherlands, Belgium, the United Kingdom and Austria. HSI will soon be opening clinics in countries outside of Europe.

If you are interested in partnering with HSI, please contact using the form below. We are open to cooperation with existing hair transplantation clinics that are willing to discontinue the use of previous, outdated techniques
http://hasci.com/default.aspx


#30

Very interesting, raj.

I didn’t know that Gho was willing to license to other clinics.
Still, as I said, this doesn’t justify any conspiration against him. Those “Gho enemies” could simply buy the rights, and benefit from the technology, if it works. They could produce full restaurations, and charge astronomical figures as I said before, so even if they had to pay Gho a percentage, still they would be winning.

Raj, do you know if these HSI clinics in the Netherlands,
Belgium, the United Kingdom and Austria have produced any full head of hair yet? which ones are clinics (not consultancies)?

» Gho has a small clinic, and he cannot serve many patients. He is not a
» threat for anyone. If his terchnique worked, these doctors from the
» Benelux, instead of attacking him, they would try to buy the rights from
» Gho.
» In order to be a threat for other clinics, he would have to expand his
» business, and he would have to teach his technique to other doctors, but
» apparently, he is not willing to do that, because they could “steal his
» secret”, or simply because his technique doesn’t work.

»
» From Dr Gho’s website:
»
» At present, there are HSI clinics and consultancies in the Netherlands,
» Belgium, the United Kingdom and Austria. HSI will soon be opening clinics
» in countries outside of Europe.
»
» If you are interested in partnering with HSI, please contact using the
» form below. We are open to cooperation with existing hair transplantation
» clinics that are willing to discontinue the use of previous, outdated
» techniques
» http://hasci.com/default.aspx


#31

Spanish Dude

Very interesting, raj.

I didn’t know that Gho was willing to license to other clinics.
Still, as I said, this doesn’t justify any conspiration against him. Those “Gho enemies” could simply buy the rights, and benefit from the technology, if it works. They could produce full restaurations, and charge astronomical figures as I said before, so even if they had to pay Gho a percentage, still they would be winning.

Raj, do you know if these HSI clinics in the Netherlands,
Belgium, the United Kingdom and Austria have produced any full head of hair yet? which ones are clinics (not consultancies)?

I do not know the answer to your questions at all.


#32

You say that any HM-researcher will be able to duplicate the experiment?
Why are you sure? You have not seen the article yet, have you?.
What is the secret growth media that Gho is supposedly using? Is this a standard one, or the formula will be published in the article?
How the follicles have to be extracted at the donor site? Do you think that the details in your interview/article will be enough to make the extraction?

We will see… I cannot say that you are wrong, of course. I have to see the article.

As I said, Gho claimed >80% donor regrowth back in Nov 2005. So, in 5 years, he could have produced many “full restorations”. We are still waiting for them. Now he claims >95% yield. The picture doesn’t change.
The only difference is the article.
We will have to see if the article changes anything.

Forum member “raj” has posted that Gho is apparently willing to license his technology to other clinics. So, if this is true, then the conspiration theory against him makes no sense. These “competing clinics” could simply buy the rights, and earn big money producing full restorations.

About bverotti, you are again manipulating things. Why do you do that? Are you telling a joke again?
The manifesto against Gho was signed by 9 clinics. 10 signatures. 8 signatures were by doctors, 2 signatures by non-doctors, but this is not important to me, if the non-doctors were the owners of the clinics, or someone important in the clinics, its ok for me, as they are taking the responsability for that signature.
Only Feriduni, Boersma and Verdonschot have rectified.
The other doctors stand on their feet: Eberson, Habbema, de Reys, Neidel, and Leonhardt. Are these “fake doctors”?
And the 2 non-doctors also didn’t rectify: Kettman, Van spelen.

You say that Bverotti and the other “fake doctors” are now puzzled and they don’t know what to do. Well, we will see. But the truth is, that thanks to these doctors, Gho has been forced to publish this article. We will see if this article is the proof that we were waiting for.

More details about the “benelux manifesto” against Gho:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-64975-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html

9 clinics from Belgium and The Netherlands, signed on January, a joint declaration, warning patients against Gho.

The declaration basically says that Gho is doing a normal FUE, and donor doesn’t regenerate. Apparently, assaid this because they saw many former Gho patients with non-regenerated donor areas.

LIST OF CLINICS THAT SIGNED THE DECLARATION AGAINST GHO:
Aesthetic Clinics----Dr. B. Feriduni
Albert Schweitzer Ziekenrmis—Dr. I. Boersma
Hair Plus / Medical Care---- Dr. Eberson
Inter medica—Dr. E. Verdonschot
Laser Aesthetic—E. Kettmann
Laser Surgery----P. van Ispelen
Medisch Centrum 't Gooi----Drs. L. Habbema
Pro Hair-----Dr. R. de Reys
Transhair—Dr.F.Neidel
Transhair—Dr. K. Leonhardt

After the declaration was published, it seems that Dr. Gho immediately sent lawyers to threaten these clinics with lawsuits.

After this, 3 clinics have rectified, and now they say that they believe in Gho’s method. Very surprising change in attitude. Maybe Gho finally showed them proof? Also these clinics say that they signed a text that is not the same as the text in the published declaration.

Gho proudly announces at his website, that increased number of clinics are rectifying previous statements.

CLINICS THAT HAVE RECTIFIED:
Aesthetic Clinics----Dr. B. Feriduni
Albert Schweitzer Ziekenrmis—Dr. I. Boersma
Inter medica—Dr. E. Verdonschot

Example: Dr. Feriduni rectification:
http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/Rectificatie.dr.B.Feriduni.pdf

Iron_Man reported all this before, but he had a “little error”. Little, but important: he said that ALL the clinics had rectified.

Anyway, the melodrama is served, and we will see how it ends.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

» » I doubt that other researchers can duplicate Gho’s technique if he
» doesn’t
» » specify the “secret details”.
»
» As I have repeatedly stated, the donor regrowth technique was easily
» repeated by a standard HT clinic in Italy. There are no secret details to
» getting donor regrowth. Anybody with HT surgery experience can do this.
» Recipient regrowth is the difficult aspect of this technique. However, my
» interview with Gho, along with standard research details in the publish
» study, reveal all the necessary details for any well-versed HM researcher
» to duplicate the procedure. I could easily duplicate the procedure, and I’m
» not even a HM scientist.
»
» Gho has published his research in a prestigious peer-reviewed medical
» journal. The co-author of this study is one of the world’s most respected
» dermatological researchers. What don’t you get about that? Peer-reviewed
» journals have scientific advisers on staff who review the research prior to
» publication and will not publish research they suspect is non-legit. If the
» science was not sound, they would not publish this article.
»
» This is a world-class medical journal. Don’t you get what’s happening? Do
» you think it’s just going to go unnoticed. This is the biggest breakthrough
» in HT in the last 50 years. It’s like a nuke going off in the HT community.
» This is huge news!
»
» » Your interview with Gho was in Nov 2005. Back then, Gho claimed donor
» » regrowth was higher than 80%. Now he says 95%. Basically, the picture
» is
» » the same. According to him, he already solved baldness in Nov 2005.
» This
» » was 5 years ago. (almost). so I don’t know why you are so enthusiastic.
»
» Once again you fail to see the magnitude of this published study. There is
» an enormous difference between the doctor of a small clinic making a claim
» and publishing a cure for MPB in a prestigious peer-reviewed medical
» journal. This exposes the claim to the top hair scientists in the world who
» would quickly refute the claim if it was not true. This is exactly how
» medical breakthroughs are presented to other researchers in the world. It
» is their duty to reproduce the work and validate its legitimacy. This
» represents a massive step forward in the world of HT.
»
» Gho has done everything right by publishing this study. The next step is
» in the hands of the scientific community at large.
»
» Now let’s get on to this bverrotti guy. From what I can tell from a dutch
» television show, he or his peers pressured a doctor and tried to pass off 4
» people who were not doctors as being doctors. The doctor who supposedly
» came out against Gho recanted and said he was pressured into going along
» with it. That makes bverrotti extremely untrustworthy IMO.
»
» Gho responded to the allegations saying the research is sound and will be
» published in the future in a medical journal for all to examine. That day
» has come, and the research has been published. Suddenly, bverrotti and his
» entourage of fake doctors are looking like they don’t have the slightest
» clue of what they are talking about.


#33

Iron-Man has lost his nuts and bolts :smiley:

» » » Do you guys think we could keep things civil?
» »
» » Pahh! On this board? Are you dreaming or what?
»
» you are the one who tried to slam spanish dude again for no apparent
» reason… dont blame it on the board when you are actually a major part of
» the problem.


#34

» I have been reading this Gho thing for quite sometime now including some
» older posts…
» and all i can say is if all this GHO thing is real WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR
» HIM TO CLEARLY PROVE IT???
» p.s–i have seen those extra magnified pics on his site and they dont tell
» anything substantial:frowning:

Huh huh, Dr. Arvind is sending out his post boys to hot discussed topics, with the intention to hype “substantial things” like HT’s?

But there are some other “well-known” persons out there in this shady field who use the media-hype around Dr. Gho (Hair Science Institute) in effort to propagandize their “substantial things” (like “cool” conventional Hair Transplants):
http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186466/langid=43/contentid=135499

Here you can see and hear the guy „Erwin Kettmann“ (Laser Aesthetic), who is responsible of the whole “discrediting Dr. Gho in media” mess, and signed this document under “Arts/Chirurg” (Medical Doctor/Surgeon) as well:

… among all the other fools Kettmann gathered for this “well-arranged” and shabbily action.

Anyway, is Erwin Kettmann a “Medical Doctor” or “Surgeon”?
NO! Mr. Kettmann claims to be a “hair specialist”, but in fact, this guy has been just a small fast-food-pub owner in the past. In the 90’s, this guy has been the #1 “counselor” in the European HT filed, who is in fact responsible for more than 25,000 bad performed “Laser HT’s”, and one of these poor guys has been the Dutch singer and “Laser HT victim” Gerard Joling, who has been forced to wear a wig after 2 of such crappy “Laser HT” procedures …

Furthermore, nearly ALL of the undersigners of this document (see URL above) are truly a bunch of shady and dirty “Hair Transplanters” in Europe, which just digged their own grave with such an perversely action, which I’ve never seen before in this shady field in general.

But the dirty battle goes on in the Netherlands,
and truly shady people like Erwin Kettmann (Laser Aesthetic),

as well as Dr. F. Neidel (Transhair) …
http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=247960&postcount=1011

… as well as Bart Verbeeck ("bverotti“, co-owner of ProHairClinic) …
http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=244372&postcount=831

… use repeatedly crappy internet message boards (!) and especially Dr. Gho related forum topics in the effort to discredit an international respected researcher on one hand, and to hype their own crappy HT clinics on the other hand. That’s a truly serious and trustworthy behaviour – eh?

I think there couldn’t be a more shabbily behaviour than this, which you will find RARE to NONE among serious scientists & researchers …

Oh, BTW - Is the following video “substantial” enough for you? :surprised:


#35

ok, Iron_Man.
Kettman and van spielen are not doctors. That is true. But the remaining 8, ARE.
Under threats, 3 doctors rectified. The rest have not rectified.
Still, even though Kettman and Van Spielen are listed under the header “doctor/surgeon”, their names were not preceded by “Dr.”.
Considering that in a list of 10 persons, 8 are doctors indeed, I don’t know why you are making such a big deal of this.

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-64975-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html

9 clinics from Belgium and The Netherlands, signed on January, a joint declaration, warning patients against Gho.

The declaration basically says that Gho is doing a normal FUE, and donor doesn’t regenerate. Apparently, they said this because they saw many former Gho patients with non-regenerated donor areas.

LIST OF CLINICS THAT SIGNED THE DECLARATION AGAINST GHO:
Aesthetic Clinics----Dr. B. Feriduni
Albert Schweitzer Ziekenrmis—Dr. I. Boersma
Hair Plus / Medical Care---- Dr. Eberson
Inter medica—Dr. E. Verdonschot
Laser Aesthetic—E. Kettmann
Laser Surgery----P. van Ispelen
Medisch Centrum 't Gooi----Drs. L. Habbema
Pro Hair-----Dr. R. de Reys
Transhair—Dr.F.Neidel
Transhair—Dr. K. Leonhardt

After the declaration was published, it seems that Dr. Gho immediately sent lawyers to threaten these clinics with lawsuits.

After this, 3 clinics have rectified, and now they say that they believe in Gho’s method. Very surprising change in attitude. Maybe Gho finally showed them proof? Also these clinics say that they signed a text that is not the same as the text in the published declaration.

Gho proudly announces at his website, that “increased number of clinics are rectifying previous statements”.

CLINICS THAT HAVE RECTIFIED:
Aesthetic Clinics----Dr. B. Feriduni
Albert Schweitzer Ziekenrmis—Dr. I. Boersma
Inter medica—Dr. E. Verdonschot

Example: Dr. Feriduni rectification:
http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/Rectificatie.dr.B.Feriduni.pdf

Iron_Man reported all this before, but he had a “little error”. Little, but important: he said that ALL the clinics had rectified.

Anyway, the melodrama is served, and we will see how it ends.
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#36

» … among all the other fools Kettmann gathered for this “well-arranged” and
» shabbily action.

» Furthermore, nearly ALL of the undersigners of this document (see URL
» above) are truly a bunch of shady and dirty “Hair Transplanters” in Europe,
» which just digged their own grave with such an perversely action, which
» I’ve never seen before in this shady field in general.

Is Dr. Loek Habbema a “shaddy and dirty hair transplanter” too?
He signed against Gho, and AFAIK, he has not backpedaled yet.

Take a look. Habbema has published plenty of articles in scientific journals.
I am going to copy just the articles, but he has also lectured in plenty of conferences/gatherings.

http://www.mcgooi.nl/specialisten/

Loek Habbema

Studeerde geneeskunde aan de Universiteit van Amsterdam. Hij specialiseerde zich in het Academisch Ziekenhuis van de Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam tot Dermatoloog-Venereoloog. Daarna werd hij benoemd tot hoofd van de polikliniek in het Academisch Ziekenhuis Rotterdam, Dijkzigt. Sinds 1994 is hij als zelfstandig dermatoloog verbonden aan Medisch Centrum 't Gooi in Bussum, waarvan hij tevens directeur is. Daar heeft hij zich bewust toegelegd op deelgebieden in de cosmetische dermatologie en cosmethische dermatochirurgie.
Bestuursfuncties en overige lidmaatschappen beroepsorganisaties
van Loek Habbema
• Voorzitter Vereniging voor Dermatochirurgie (2000-heden)
• Chairman Nederlandse afdeling van de European Academy
of Cosmetic Surgery (1997-heden)
• President van de European Academy of Cosmetic Surgery (2002-2003)
• Founding member van de European Society of Hair Restoration Surgery
• Nederlandse Vereniging voor Dermatologie en Venereologie
• European Academy of Cosmetic Surgery : www.europeansurgeons.org
• European Society of Hair Restoration Surgery: www.eshrs.org
• Nederlandse Vereniging voor Dermatologie en Venereologie: www.huidarts.info
• European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology: www.eadv.org
• International Society for Dermatologic Surgery: www.isdsworld.com
• International Society for Hair Restoration Surgery: www.ishrs.org
• American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery: www.cosmeticsurgery.org
• American Society for Liposuction Surgery
• European Society for Cosmetic and Aesthetic Dermatology: http://www.escad.org
• American academy of dermatology: www.aad.org
• Zelfstandige klinieken nederland: www.zkn.nl
Wetenschappelijke Publicaties

L. Habbema
Safety of Liposuction Using Exclusively Tumescent Local Anesthesia in 3,240 Consecutive Cases
Dermatologic Surgery 2009;
35: 1728-1735

L. Habbema
Breast Reduction Using Liposuction with Tumescent Local Anesthesia and Powered Cannulas
Dermatolgic Surgery 2009; 35:41-52

L. Habbema
Facial Esthetics and Patient Selection
Clinics in Dermatology
Vol. 22, Jan/Feb 2004; 14-17

L. Habbema
Tumescent anaesthesia - where are we today?
Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereologie
Vol. 17, suppl. 3 November 2003; 448-449

L. Habbema
Breast ptosis measurements before and after breast liposuction
Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology
Vol 1, No. 3, October 2002; 167

L. Habbema
Augmentatie in de cosmetische dermatologie Nederlandse
Tijdschrift voor Dermatologie & Venereologie
Vol 11, April 2001; 97 - 103

L. Habbema
Liposuctie in de cosmetische dermatologie
Nederlandse Tijdschrift voor Dermatologie & Venereologie
Vol 10, Oktober 2000; 314 - 320

L. Habbema
Botuline-toxine in de cosmetische dermatologie
Nederlandse Tijdschrift voor Dermatologie & Venereologie
Vol 10, September 2000; 290 - 293

L. Habbema
Cosmetische dermatologie
Nederlandse Tijdschrift voor Dermatologie & Venereologie
Vol 10, Augustus 2000; 258 - 261

L. Habbema
Herpes Genitalis
Compendium Seksueel Overdraagbare Aandoeningen
O.P. Bleker e.a.(Red.) Wetenschappelijke uitgeverij Bunge
Utrecht, 1996; 37 - 47

L. Habbema, K. De Boulle, G. A. Roders, D. H. Katz
Acta dermato-Venereologica Docosanol 10% Cream in the Treatment of Recurrent Herpes Labialis: A Randomised, Double-blind, Placebo-controlled Study
Acta Derm. Venereol. (Stockh) 1996; 479 - 481

R.A. M. Chin-A-Lien, L. Habbema
Primaire HIV- infectie
Ned. Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1994; 38: 1933

R.L.P. Lijnen, L. Habbema
Lymphogranuloma Venereum
Ned. Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1994; 38: 1934

A. Okkerse, L. Habbema, E. Stolz
Condylomata acuminata. Measurement of absorption after topical therapy with a 0.5% podophyllotoxin solution (Condyline)
Verslag SOA-congres Veldhoven 1993; November 25-26

J. A. J. W. Kluytmans, L. Habbema
Evaluation of Clearview Magic Lite, PCR and Cell Culture for Detection of Chlamydia trachomatis
Urogenital Specimens American Society for Microbiology.
Article: JCM 594-93 Journal of clinical Microbiology(submitted 28 June 1993)

L. Habbema
Verslag congres: SOA & Infertiliteit Ned.
Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1992; 136: 852 - 853

L. A. J. Blindeman, L. Habbema, E. Stolz
Bacteriële infectie
Leerboek Dermatologie en Venereologie.
Van Vloten W.A. Degreef H.J., Stolz E.(Red.), Wetenschappelijke Uitgeverij Bunge, Utrecht, 1992; 315 - 333

Tio, J. H. T. Wagenvoort, H. L. Moesker, L. Habbema, M. F. Michel, E. Stolz
Efficacy and safety of Ciprofloxacin for the treatment of chlamydial cervicitis
TGO/JDR. 1992

L. Habbema
Verslag congres: SOA & Infertiliteit
Ned. Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1992; 136: 852 - 853

T. T. Tio, I. R. Sindhunata, J. h. T. Wagenvoort, A. F. Angulo,
L. Habbema, M. F. Michel, E. Stolz
Pefloxacin compared with cefotaxime for treating men with uncomplicated gonococcal urethritis
J. Antimicrob. Chemoth. 1990; 26: 141 - 146T.

L. Habbema, B. Koopmans, H. E. Menke, S. Doornweerd, K. De Boulle
A 4% erythromycin and zinc combination (Zineryt R) versus 2% erythromycin (Eryderm R) in acné vulgaris: a randomized
doubleblind comparative study Br. J. Dermatol 1989; 121:497 - 502

A. H. Van der Willigen, A. W. Le Mair, J. H. T. Wagenvoort, A. H. Van der Willigen, A. A. Polak-Vogelzang, L. Habbema, J. H. T. Wagenvoort
Clinical efficacy of ciprofloxacin versus doxycycline in the treatment of non-gonococcal urethritis
males Eur. J. Clin. Microbiol. and Infect Diseases 1988; 7: 658 - 661

L. Habbema, M. F.
Michel, B. Van Klingeren, E. Stolz
A preliminary study of ceftetrame in acute uncomplicated gonorrhoea in males
Tijdschrift Therapie Geneesmiddel en Onderzoek, 1988

L. Habbema
D.P. Bruynzeel Fixed drug eruption due to naprosen
Dermatologica 1987; 174: 184 - 185

E. M. Bleeker-Wagemakers, L. Habbema
A patient with onychotrichodysplasia,
neutropenia and normal intelligence.
Clinical Genetics 1987; 31: 374 - 380

F. W. M. Schrijnemakers, P. B. G. ten Ham, L. Habbema
Gonorroe en condylomata acuminata in zuidelijk Zuid-Holland
GGD, Rotterdam, afdeling Epidemiologie. 1987; 30

L. Habbema, L.S. Kisch, Th.M. Starink
Familial malignant atrophic papulosis (Degos disease) additional evidense for hereditaire an a benign course.
Br.J. Dermatol 1986; 114: 134 - 135

L. Habbema Pophyria
Cutanea tarda-achtigen afwijkingen en onychodystrofie bij gegeneraliseerde amyloidose bij de ziekte van Kahler.
Nederlands Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1984; 128: 534

L. Habbema
Lokale antimicrobiele middelen bij acné vulgaris.
Modern Medicine 1984; 8: 1666 - 1674

L. Habbema
Lokale antibiotica bij acné?
Ned. Tijdschrift Geneeskunde 1984; 128: 2011 - 2012

L. Habbema
Erfelijke huidziekten
Medische Genetica; Pronk e.a.(Red.)
Wetenschappelijke uitgeverij Bunge, Utrecht 1984; 61 - 67

L. Habbema, T.G. Losekoot, A.E. Becker
Respiratory distress to bronchial compression in persistant truncus arteriosus.
Chest 1980; 77: 230 - 232

A.H. Van der willigen, A.W. le Mair, J.H.T. Wagenvoort,
L. Habbema, M.F. Michel, B. Van Klingeren, E. Stolze
A preliminary study of ceftetrame on acute uncomplicated gonorrhoea in males.
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#37

» SD:
»
» Years ago, I posted an independent study of Dr. Gho’s old FM technique
» that showed 70% of the donor hairs regrow if transected in the skin.
» However, in my interview with Dr. Gho, he stated the regrowth was greatly
» improved with his newer longitudinal transection technique.
»
» http://www.baldnessbattlers.com/JBInterviewGho.htm
»
» Despite recipient growth being the most difficult aspect to figure out,
» Gho’s recipient growth has always been on par with HT, because he soaks the
» transected grafts in HM culture medium (essentially the same stuff Histogen
» injects to rejuvinate balding follicles).
»
» As shown by the independent study, the donor regrowth is not a problem.
» The difficult part of this technique is to get the recipient follicles to
» regenerate and grow hair. Dr. Gho has figured it out, and he has been
» treating an increasing number of Dutch celebrities.
»
» One thing to keep in mind is the co-author of this study is a professor at
» a prestigious Dutch university and is one of the most well-respected
» dermatologists in the world as well as one of the most published
» researchers.
»
» This is a prestigious peer-reviewed journal. Gho’s co-author would not
» publish fake data in this journal. The claimed hair counts are accurate.
»
» Anybody who is currently enrolled in college has access to this article
» through their library’s online subscription service. There must be at least
» one person at this site who is currently enrolled in school and can give us
» the details? The most important thing here is the statistical details so we
» can get an idea of the consistency achievable. From the abstract, it
» appears Gho has managed to get nearly perfect consistency in the donor and
» recipient sites.
»
» BTW, the rejuvinated donor hairs last forever, but it takes about a year
» for them to fully reform into fully functional hair follicles (as shown in
» Dr. Kim’s study). For this reason, you should not take donor follicles from
» the same area for at least 10 months.
»
» The only thing that has really been holding the procedure back is Gho’s
» placement technique. However, the latest results I’ve seen appear to
» indicate he’s resolved this issue as well.
»
» Perhaps this thing has finally come of age.

I tried accessing this article from our university network… however it seems the university of würzburg has not subscribed to this journal… which for me… is a sign that it is not a very prestigious journal, since we have a subscription to most common journals its usually the crappy no-name journals which i have difficulty accessing.


#38

» » Well, why do you say Bverotti is lying?
» » Can’t you consider the possibility that Dr. De Reys lied to
» ProHairClinic
» » instead?
»
» Hmm, maybe James Bond is more interested to discuss with a brain-dead guy
» Gho-related things … :smiley:

its funny how you always opt to personal insults instead of constructive dialogue …

on a side note:
personally i find the fact that Gho himself is balding doesnt discredit him at all… its a silly argument imho… there are so many guys out there that are balding and are absolutely cool with it… not everyone shares our vanity and personal grudge against balding


#39

and they are charging 86USD for accessing the article!!they are crazy!

Many years ago, Gho published an article in the British Journal of Dermatology.

It would be interesting to know the size of the suscriptor base of the BJD versus the JDT.

In July 2004, Gho “promised” that he would publish an article demonstrating the FM technique. This article never appeared.

» I tried accessing this article from our university network… however it
» seems the university of würzburg has not subscribed to this journal… which
» for me… is a sign that it is not a very prestigious journal, since we have
» a subscription to most common journals its usually the crappy no-name
» journals which i have difficulty accessing.


#40

Iron_Man gets very angry when he is proved wrong.

About Gho’s baldness, well, it is weird that someone who is selling/designing cars, doesn’t have one. But of course, this doesn’t prove anything. It is just another piece of “anecdotal evidence”.

» » » Well, why do you say Bverotti is lying?
» » » Can’t you consider the possibility that Dr. De Reys lied to
» » ProHairClinic
» » » instead?
» »
» » Hmm, maybe James Bond is more interested to discuss with a brain-dead
» guy
» » Gho-related things … :smiley:
»
» its funny how you always opt to personal insults instead of constructive
» dialogue …
»
»
» on a side note:
» personally i find the fact that Gho himself is balding doesnt discredit
» him at all… its a silly argument imho… there are so many guys out there
» that are balding and are absolutely cool with it… not everyone shares our
» vanity and personal grudge against balding