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#1

Approximately six weeks ago, I sent a cover letter and pictures to four very well known doctors. In my letter, I indicated my health history, current medications, past transplant history. I limited the letters I sent to North America, only because of the added expense of traveling out of the country. Had I included traveling abroad, I would have also sent photos to Dr Woods and Dr Arvind.
My case is not the best, but I have seen much worse posted on this site. In addition, I underwent a bone marrow transplant for leukemia in 1995. I did contract graft vs host disease, that caused loss of pigment in my skin. Several areas are on my scalp, turning those areas pure white.
The only Doctor that responded was Dr. Cole. I recieved a phone call from his office, wanting to know what I wanted to achieve before Dr. Cole reviewed my pictures. I had a detailed plan emailed to me with his recommendations within ten days of mailing out my letters.
I fully realize that photo consults are limited, but I am disappointed that some other Doctors did not respond. I greatly appreciate Dr. Cole taking time to review my case/photos. In my cover letter I also indicated that due to financial hardship, I would be not be able to have surgery right away.
On the plus side, I started taking Duta approximatley three months ago, and my hairloss has almost halted. I had taken propecia/proscar for three years with no gain, although a slowing of loss. I stopped proscar for two months, and suffered a considerable loss, so much of what is posted about these medications is true. It’s too early to determine if I’ll have any gain from Duta, but I’m hoping.


#2

Were you asking for a free repair ? is that why they didn’t bother to reply? I wouldn’t be surprised, it’s a recurring theme here, the docs are too busy making money they have no time for guys who need repair bad.


#3

And if Mr. Frodo is correct then based on what has been going on lately only those who are in deep finiancial trouble and those who need to find any opportunity to get to get back on their feet will answer you. Which means they really don’t care… but need to exploit you. I could be wrong though.


#4

» And if Mr. Frodo is correct then based on what has been going on lately
» only those who are in deep finiancial trouble and those who need to find
» any opportunity to get to get back on their feet will answer you. Which
» means they really don’t care… but need to exploit you. I could be wrong
» though.

To answer your question, no I did not ask for free repair. I wanted opinions on what could be done with my situation. In a few short years, I will be able to afford (I hope) the repairs needed.


#5

Most doctors prefer to work on virgin scalps, it’s a lot easier and the results are more predictable. Repair work is always a challenge. I am not surprised most doctors tend to shy away from repair. Also, that someone can do HT does not necessarily mean that he is equally proficient in repair. It’s a totally different league. If someone doesn’t get back to you, chances are that he doesn’t think he can help you anyway. It might be a blessing in disguise.

Do I have your pictures already? I can set up a personal journal for you for the next newsletter along with Zayden’s. He is also badly in need of a repair.


#6

» Most doctors prefer to work on virgin scalps, it’s a lot easier and the
» results are more predictable. Repair work is always a challenge. I am not
» surprised most doctors tend to shy away from repair. Also, that someone
» can do HT does not necessarily mean that he is equally proficient in
» repair. It’s a totally different league. If someone doesn’t get back to
» you, chances are that he doesn’t think he can help you anyway. It might be
» a blessing in disguise.
»
» Do I have your pictures already? I can set up a personal journal for you
» for the next newsletter along with Zayden’s. He is also badly in need of
» a repair.

I wouldnt give up on all those other docs, there might have been an issue with the email, try sending it again. The top docs are also probably super busy and might not have had a chance to get to your email yet. Just so you know dut is not FDA approved for hairloss and can have major side affects. I realize it does work well for some people but has made some peoples hair loss worse. Just watch out for some of the side affects.


#7

First of all, you don’t know <> about a “slowing of loss”… Nobody wants to touch you with a ten foot pole. There is big money in these internet posts. Who cares if you WANT hair surgery if you cannot pay for it? These guys are in BUSINESS to make money. Not to cater to you.

Retard


#8

Sorry, I’m still incensed! This forum has given these doctors a free ride with all the nonsense that’s going on. And you know you’re sniffing for something for nothing just to post it and impress everyone. You think the docs care? It’s beyond a mere posting. Now it’s just plain insulting. Once the obsessed baldies get on with it, I’ll have some back-up. At this moment, I expect none. Still, I don’t care. I wish one more of you had the balls to say what I’m saying without getting attacked by Damon and his minions. Jesus! Think about it!


#9

» Were you asking for a free repair ? is that why they didn’t bother to
» reply? I wouldn’t be surprised, it’s a recurring theme here, the docs are
» too busy making money they have no time for guys who need repair bad.

first of all the guy got butchered, most docs would put this low on their priority list…difficult surgery, non virgin scalp, unpredictable results…etc etc etc

to top it off, the guy has virtually no money,and he said he suffered from Leukemia or some other difficult condition with host disease, or some strange sounding difficult complication

given the circumstances, why would any doc want to risk it
now if the guy was flush with cash some would, but. with no money, AND all the complications its a wonder anyone responded


#10

» » » Approximately six weeks ago, I sent a cover letter and pictures to
» four
» » » very well known doctors. In my letter, I indicated my health history,
» » » current medications, past transplant history. I limited the letters I
» » sent
» » » to North America, only because of the added expense of traveling out
» of
» » the
» » » country. Had I included traveling abroad, I would have also sent
» photos
» » to
» » » Dr Woods and Dr Arvind.
» » » My case is not the best, but I have seen much worse posted on this
» » site.
» » » In addition, I underwent a bone marrow transplant for leukemia in
» 1995.
» » I
» » » did contract graft vs host disease, that caused loss of pigment in my
» » » skin. Several areas are on my scalp, turning those areas pure white.
» » » The only Doctor that responded was Dr. Cole. I recieved a phone call
» » from
» » » his office, wanting to know what I wanted to achieve before Dr. Cole
» » » reviewed my pictures. I had a detailed plan emailed to me with his
» » » recommendations within ten days of mailing out my letters.
» » » I fully realize that photo consults are limited, but I am
» disappointed
» » » that some other Doctors did not respond. I greatly appreciate Dr.
» Cole
» » » taking time to review my case/photos. In my cover letter I also
» » indicated
» » » that due to financial hardship, I would be not be able to have
» surgery
» » » right away.
» » » On the plus side, I started taking Duta approximatley three months
» ago,
» » » and my hairloss has almost halted. I had taken propecia/proscar for
» » three
» » » years with no gain, although a slowing of loss. I stopped proscar for
» » two
» » » months, and suffered a considerable loss, so much of what is posted
» » about
» » » these medications is true. It’s too early to determine if I’ll have
» any
» » » gain from Duta, but I’m hoping.
» »
» » First of all, you don’t know jackshit about a “slowing of loss”…
» Nobody
» » wants to touch you with a ten foot pole. There is big money in these
» » internet posts. And MORON! Who the fuck cares if you WANT hair
» surgery
» » if you cannot pay for it? These guys are in BUSINESS to make money.
» Not
» » to cater to you.
» »
» » Retard
»
» Sorry, I’m still incensed! Who the frig do you think you are? This forum
» has given these asshole doctors a fucking free ride with all the nonsense
» that’s going on. And you know you’re sniffing for something for nothing
» just to post it and impress everyone. You think the docs care? It’s
» beyond a mere posting. Now it’s just plain insulting. Once the obsessed
» baldies get on with it, I’ll have some back-up. At this moment, I expect
» none. Still, I don’t care. I wish one more of you had the balls to say
» what I’m saying without getting attacked by Damon and his minions. Jesus!
» Think about it!

Well first, I’m not looking for something for nothing. I indicated in my letter that I could not afford surgery at this time. I simply wanted to get Doctors opinions on my situation, and what if any repair could be done. As far as slowing of loss, I can only day what occured for me. On propecia/proscar I had continued loss, but no gain. Stopping for two months, I had a significant loss or shed. After 100 days on Duta, I have been only losing a few hairs a day. I will be emailing my pictures to Hairsite, so you can take a look. My pattern is NW6 with diffuse thinning over entire scalp. All previous surgery was in crown (mini-grafts).


#11

» Most doctors prefer to work on virgin scalps, it’s a lot easier and the
» results are more predictable. Repair work is always a challenge. I am not
» surprised most doctors tend to shy away from repair. Also, that someone
» can do HT does not necessarily mean that he is equally proficient in
» repair. It’s a totally different league. If someone doesn’t get back to
» you, chances are that he doesn’t think he can help you anyway. It might be
» a blessing in disguise.
»
» Do I have your pictures already? I can set up a personal journal for you
» for the next newsletter along with Zayden’s. He is also badly in need of
» a repair.

Hairsite, I will email ymy pictures to you. For the record, I printed and mailed the letters to the various Doctors. I’m no where near damaged as much as Zayden. This man deserves whatever help any Doctor can give. All of my damage is in the crown, so its not as noticable.


#12

TheRealBodhi,

It’s not necessary to post with such hostility toward fellow members in the forum.


#13

I feel bad for the guy though hairsite. In my honest experience I have seen folks like him put on the back burner. Especially if it is a gratis case then he needs to really be wary of those who may respond to this in the future.

Thincity just be cautious ok. In fact come here and tell us exactly what is said during your consultations, I can at least give you my opinion as well as others will to see if there is really genuine concern for your needs.


#14

» I feel bad for the guy though hairsite. In my honest experience I have
» seen folks like him put on the back burner. Especially if it is a gratis
» case then he needs to really be wary of those who may respond to this in
» the future.
»
» Thincity just be cautious ok. In fact come here and tell us exactly what
» is said during your consultations, I can at least give you my opinion as
» well as others will to see if there is really genuine concern for your
» needs.

Hairtech, I will be emailing the pictures I sent via first class mail to the various Doctors. I have no problem letting forum members see them. I may have my wife take some additional photos, as the ones I sent do not show the pitting and true pluginess of the grafts. Once some forum members have viewed these pictures, I will post what recommendation Dr. Cole gave. I think his approach was very reasonable and cautious. I am not looking for a gratis repair, the poster Zayden however, should be helped, this is probably the worst case of damage Ive seen after lurking these sites for years.


#15

» I feel bad for the guy though hairsite. In my honest experience I have
» seen folks like him put on the back burner. Especially if it is a gratis
» case then he needs to really be wary of those who may respond to this in
» the future.
»
» Thincity just be cautious ok. In fact come here and tell us exactly what
» is said during your consultations, I can at least give you my opinion as
» well as others will to see if there is really genuine concern for your
» needs.

Yes, I suggest that Thincity NOT to rush into anything at this point. Most repair patients have little or no margin for error. If he chooses the wrong doctor for the repair, that could be the end of it once the remaining donor is wiped out. Also, don’t go with a doctor simply because he tells you what you want to hear. I know this can be very tempting for repair patients as there are not that many doctors who are willing to review their cases.

Research very carefully and talk to as many people as possible before making a decision.


#16

Hairsite, I emailed some of the pictures I mailed out. I will have my wife take better pictures of the crown in brighter lighting. The pictures I sent do not show the pitting, scarring or how bad the plugs really are.


#17

Just received these pics from Thincity.

"Hairsite,

These are some of the pictures I sent out. I also included some pictures
of body hair areas, including chest, leg and arms. I did not send these
pictures, but if you want them I will. After looking at these pictures, I
need to have my wife take some more of the crown. I will send close-ups
showing the pitting and the plugs. All the hair outside of the crown hair is
natural, accept approximately 156 1-2 hair grafts placed midscalp. The white
hair with pink skin showing is the result of graft vs host. After a bone
marrow transplant, the new bone marrow can launch an attack on the “host” It
can attack the skin, secretion glands and major organs. I suffered the loss
of the tear and salivary glands as well as loss of pigment in areas of my
scalp and chest."


#18

Repair? What? Diffuse thinning, but not bad for your age. Maybe beef up your hairline with some FUE, but too much shockloss potential in the vertex. Probably a zero sum game if you attack that area.


#19

» Repair? What? Diffuse thinning, but not bad for your age. Maybe beef up
» your hairline with some FUE, but too much shockloss potential in the
» vertex. Probably a zero sum game if you attack that area.

Trans, these pictures really are not very good. In the crown there are approximately 450 minigrafts. I have to brush/comb my hair back to conceal them. A few years ago, Dr. Jones in Toronto Fue’d 220 of these, to reduce the bulkiness of each of those grafts. This helped quite a bit making them not quite as noticible. I will email some crown pics in better lighting with the grafts exposed. I am fortunate that when I had these four small strip procedures done in 90/91 the only place of loss was in the crown. Had these been placed in or near the hair line it would have been a disaster.


#20

Your front is not bad , it’s thinning but it looks natural , at least you have your face framed already. I think you just need body hair behind the hairline.