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#1

There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.

All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield, threads started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no better than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than minoxidil, it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them as they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any of this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your mentality, Wake up to reality!”


#2

» There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.
»
» All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield, threads
» started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference
» between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news
» about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no better
» than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it
» grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than minoxidil,
» it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even
» they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them as
» they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any of
» this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your
» mentality, Wake up to reality!”

How can you tell they’ve failed since they have not done the second phase trials yet?

IMO histogen and aderans are promising good, there’s nothing to be furious about

and sorry for my bad english


#3

FYI, Aderans is well into Phase II trials and they have been working on them for over a year. Preliminary results have already been announced and discussed by various sources. First of all, something NEW that was announced is that they are also using topicals or other medications to “assist” with the HM, so this alone tells me the HM has been found to be INSUFFICIENT. Second, the hair that has grown is being described as thin, light, not dense hair. The results of Phase II are already being compared with existing medications like Rogaine and Propecia, which is no substantial improvement over what is already available. And someone has even posted here claiming to be a Phase II trialist, and the hair growth he describes is minimal-sounding. Although he seems to be subjectively happy to have seen some hair growth, if you analyze his description of it OBJECTIVELY, it is no better than typical Propecia results and might even be a bit worse!

When you compare all these data points with all the hype that has been released about HM over the years from multiple sources, and do an OBJECTIVE comparison of hype to actual results being announced now, you have to admit that the results seem very disappointing. I would even say, shockingly disappointing.

» » There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.
» »
» » All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield,
» threads
» » started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference
» » between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news
» » about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no
» better
» » than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it
» » grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than
» minoxidil,
» » it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even
» » they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them
» as
» » they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any
» of
» » this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your
» » mentality, Wake up to reality!”
»
» How can you tell they’ve failed since they have not done the second phase
» trials yet?
»
» IMO histogen and aderans are promising good, there’s nothing to be furious
» about
»
» and sorry for my bad english


#4

I simply think that nobody really knows what is going on except them, and if you talk about the results shown in the past (which are the first results) could you tell me why they have in their plan to try something about 2 or 3 different technique simultaneously? they’re clearly trying to BOOST their results 'cause they knows it’s possible… to say it’s done or to say it’s a fail, both are just premature conclusions based on your feelings, nothing objective…

BTW I remember something about “+79% Terminal hair count”, I remember Aderans (and Histogen) classified terminal hair and separately vellous hair… so your arguments are wrong… if they are not lying obviously

just a last thing: Aderans classified “terminal hair” the ones which are >30micros… after a fast research on internet I guess that as terminal hair is intended the ones who are AVERAGE >45

all you can say now is that the terminal hair growth by aderans are just thin ATM, this is no problem for me due to the fact that I’ve always own thin hair :stuck_out_tongue:


#5

Shut your piehole psycho.

» There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.
»
» All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield, threads
» started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference
» between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news
» about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no better
» than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it
» grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than minoxidil,
» it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even
» they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them as
» they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any of
» this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your
» mentality, Wake up to reality!”


#6

» There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.
»
» All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield, threads
» started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference
» between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news
» about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no better
» than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it
» grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than minoxidil,
» it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even
» they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them as
» they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any of
» this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your
» mentality, Wake up to reality!”

dude. ARI is generating new hair… in theory if u are able to create new follicles the procedure SHOULD be compoundable… and these are preliminary results… noone knows how much room there is for improvement…

apart from that Histogens results seem QUITE promising actually.


#7

»
» dude. ARI is generating new hair… in theory if u are able to create new
» follicles the procedure SHOULD be compoundable… and these are preliminary
» results… noone knows how much room there is for improvement…
»
» apart from that Histogens results seem QUITE promising actually.

I don’t think this is the first time roger has started a thread like this.

The guy has made up his mind.


#8

» There is no good news here and there hasn’t been for well over a year.
»
» All we really have here is endless threads about Thomas Whitfield, threads
» started by people who can’t speak English and don’t know the difference
» between the English pronouns “you” and “they”, and worse and worse news
» about how Aderans’ trials are producing terrible results that are no better
» than Rogaine… And yet people are optimistic (?) Because “at least it
» grows some hair”!! WTF??! If it can’t grow thicker hair than minoxidil,
» it has FAILED. I’m not putting any of these doctors down, I think even
» they are surprised and disappointed, and I am actually very sad for them as
» they put so much legitimate hard work into this. And I’m not happy any of
» this has failed; I’m furious!.. But as Frank Sinatra said, “Use your
» mentality, Wake up to reality!”

Roger, what about the “news” that was supposed to be coming? What happened to your friends in the industry that were supposedly leaking you all that important information?

Wake up to reality: You don’t have any credibility. Your opinions are irrelevant.


#9

Thomas Whitfield is about to release word on his findings/product soon.


#10

Awesome totally cool :slight_smile:

I highly doubt it, to be honest.

» Thomas Whitfield is about to release word on his findings/product soon.


#11

» Thomas Whitfield is about to release word on his findings/product soon.

yea, we hear this every other day… the constant announcing of his upcoming announcement is getting really tedious… just come back when (or IF) he ever comes out with something.