Baccy

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
1

We have all seen your pics , i think you have posted several, however the posts on the board are so mixed over so many topics i think a lot of stuff gets lost in the shuffle

can you please post a brief synopsis of

your age
how long you have been thinning and how long you have been bald on top prior to starting your new experiment

what exactly you are doing. what products are you using, how often are you applying them, how you are doing the sand papering etc

not that some of us have the guts to try it but if your results continue to improve i think a lot of board members might just go for it

as the resident board skeptic i am out to prove also that I am not just a closed minded individual that hopes nothing ever works

if something works it works, and if it is not dangerous i think most guys would give it a go

why does hangin, the resident skeptic open his mind to your procedure? because you are an actual person who has tried it and posts pics. to me that is everything, I go by guys recommendations who have tried things

studies to me are pretty much meaningless, and all this ICX and other companies dont mean much to me since they provide fuzzy data and no photos, and who knows when or if they will ever produce anything

but I will join the board members in for one congratulating you on your progress, and thanking you for posting pics and giving the board something REAL to talk about

2

I’ve got to go to work shortly so no time now. But I’ll have plenty of time after Wednesday during my ‘downtime’. I’ll do as you ask.

3

» I’ve got to go to work shortly so no time now. But I’ll have plenty of
» time after Wednesday during my ‘downtime’. I’ll do as you ask.

First – congratulations Baccy on the fascinating results and thanks for
keeping everyone informed! and also please continue to be cautious be
careful in your experimentation, and best of luck in the future.

on this topic, if you do have a chance to do a current synopsis, here
are some things that I also remained quite curious about in reading back through everything…

-Any rough estimates on the concentrations of ingredients which were used?

-Also, what was the reasoning for including the caffeine? It appears
that the milk-thistle extract was there for EGFr inhibition
and the lithium compound to imitate WNT signalling; is the caffeine
intended to serve a different purpose or to enhance one of these effects?

-Were all of the treatments topical only?

-I was looking at this illustration on the epidermis:

and it made me wonder: What was the extent/depth of the abrasion which
you performed… Did this just remove part of all of the stratum corneum
or beyond that into the epidermis or upper dermis? It seems like the
recovery was quite good but I think you did mention that early on the
abrasion was pretty extensive. Do you recall the grade of sandpaper used?

-Just some notes I made on the process used previously, is anything
really important missing from this brief summary?

-initial disruption:
sanding + 30% glycolic acid peel for 5 minutes (full upper scalp area)

-days 3-5:
quercetin, lithium orotate, caffeine and dmso in a alpha lipoic acid cream

-days 6-15:
switched to milk-thistle extract, lithium orotate, caffeine and dmso in
emu oil

-days 16-:
minox with caffeine and lithium orotate dissolved in dmso
also copper peptides and benadryl creme used in latter treatment

4

» We have all seen your pics , i think you have posted several, however the
» posts on the board are so mixed over so many topics i think a lot of stuff
» gets lost in the shuffle
»
» can you please post a brief synopsis of
»
» your age
» how long you have been thinning and how long you have been bald on top
» prior to starting your new experiment
»
» what exactly you are doing. what products are you using, how often are you
» applying them, how you are doing the sand papering etc
»
» not that some of us have the guts to try it but if your results continue
» to improve i think a lot of board members might just go for it
»
» as the resident board skeptic i am out to prove also that I am not just a
» closed minded individual that hopes nothing ever works
»
» if something works it works, and if it is not dangerous i think most guys
» would give it a go
»

Suddenly the guy who says hair doesn’t matter pirks his ears because some limie loon takes sandpaper to his head and grows some stubble (which he still hasn’t clearly declared was not there prior).

5

» » We have all seen your pics , i think you have posted several, however
» the
» » posts on the board are so mixed over so many topics i think a lot of
» stuff
» » gets lost in the shuffle
» »
» » can you please post a brief synopsis of
» »
» » your age
» » how long you have been thinning and how long you have been bald on top
» » prior to starting your new experiment
» »
» » what exactly you are doing. what products are you using, how often are
» you
» » applying them, how you are doing the sand papering etc
» »
» » not that some of us have the guts to try it but if your results
» continue
» » to improve i think a lot of board members might just go for it
» »
» » as the resident board skeptic i am out to prove also that I am not just
» a
» » closed minded individual that hopes nothing ever works
» »
» » if something works it works, and if it is not dangerous i think most
» guys
» » would give it a go
» »
»
» Suddenly the guy who says hair doesn’t matter pirks his ears because some
» limie loon takes sandpaper to his head and grows some stubble (which he
» still hasn’t clearly declared was not there prior).
ah poor guy, sorry i hurt your feelings the other day with my post

chin up…life isnt so bad, I am sure you find a friend someday

when i said its only hair i meant exactly that in the context of…do not feel you are a loser with no friends or prospects in life just becaue you lost your hair

I did not say there is anything wrong with , if you see something you think works, then if you want to try it, go for it. thats what life is all about, trying to improve yourself.

like you for example…trying to read …dale carnegie , make friends and influence people. or whatever you call that book
might help

i also did not say i would try baccys regimen

i read the hair transplant board often and ask a lot of questions, but i would never get a transplant

i am a cautious person when something is risky, to your health, or can have easy adverse health consequences…

if i was the type to get plastic surgery, i would go for the best plastic surgeon in the country and research several years before taking the plunge

you seem like a lonely chap…have you ever had a friend? girlfriend? someone who could stand to be around you for more than a few sec?

6

» you seem like a lonely chap…have you ever had a friend?
» girlfriend? someone who could stand to be around you for more than a few
» sec?

I’m married. How about you? Oh wait - you’re the guy who moved to a third world country for some unknown reason. Odd thing to do, that. Most people don’t willingly live in a sht hole unless they have to. So what’s the story?

7

yes moved to one of the top 5 diving destinations in the world, some of the most pristine beaches, over 7000 islands…you can build a home on the beach in unspoiled paradise for a fraction of what it would cost anywhere else in the world…in most island paradises you can forget even thinking about being able to afford that…

more

more

more

smiling friendly english speaking citizens, one of the best values as far as affordable living in the world. why would anyone move here, its nuts

i guess your world travels would include a trip to Juarez?

I will think of you guys when I am jetskiing at the resort this weekend

8

» » I’ve got to go to work shortly so no time now. But I’ll have plenty of
» » time after Wednesday during my ‘downtime’. I’ll do as you ask.
»
»
» First – congratulations Baccy on the fascinating results and thanks for
» keeping everyone informed! and also please continue to be cautious be
» careful in your experimentation, and best of luck in the future.
»
»
» on this topic, if you do have a chance to do a current synopsis, here
» are some things that I also remained quite curious about in reading back
» through everything…
»
»
» -Any rough estimates on the concentrations of ingredients which were
» used?
»
» -Also, what was the reasoning for including the caffeine? It appears
» that the milk-thistle extract was there for EGFr inhibition
» and the lithium compound to imitate WNT signalling; is the caffeine
» intended to serve a different purpose or to enhance one of these effects?
»
» -Were all of the treatments topical only?
»
» -I was looking at this illustration on the epidermis:
» File:Skin.jpg - Wikipedia
»
» and it made me wonder: What was the extent/depth of the abrasion which
» you performed… Did this just remove part of all of the stratum corneum
» or beyond that into the epidermis or upper dermis? It seems like the
» recovery was quite good but I think you did mention that early on the
» abrasion was pretty extensive. Do you recall the grade of sandpaper
» used?
»
»
» -Just some notes I made on the process used previously, is anything
» really important missing from this brief summary?
»
»
» -initial disruption:
» sanding + 30% glycolic acid peel for 5 minutes (full upper scalp area)
»
» -days 3-5:
» quercetin, lithium orotate, caffeine and dmso in a alpha lipoic acid
» cream
»
» -days 6-15:
» switched to milk-thistle extract, lithium orotate, caffeine and dmso in
» emu oil
»
» -days 16-:
» minox with caffeine and lithium orotate dissolved in dmso
» also copper peptides and benadryl creme used in latter treatment

First of all Coffee, try not to take my experimental meanderings too literally. :slight_smile: The Quercetin was a mistake that I realised part way into the experiment. I decided to use the milk-thistle INSTEAD of quercetin. Likewise with the acid onto the sanded skin. I don’t recommend it and did it purely because I didn’t deem the wounding severe enough. Sandpaper grade, I don’t remember as I had some left over from working on my house. I just used that. :slight_smile: However, I’m currently posting a more detailed description of my current attempt at this. I was quite vicious with the sandpaper and a couple of days later, my head looked a mess. The caffeine is there because it has an inhibitory effect on the DHT in the scalp. Clinical trials have shown this.
The treatments were topical only except for the milk-thistle which I decided to take orally too.
Quantities were very haphazard and you’d probably have to look back on my posts for that. The emu oil and the alpha lipoic acid are probably interchangeable as I merely used them as carriers.

9

Very quickly. My age is 43. Started balding at about 16 and got very noticeable by 18. Very, very thin on top by the time I was 26 and got a rug fitted. Head was shaved everytime for the rug when it was maintained but at salon visits noticed that there was nothing at all growing there after a couple of years. So I’d estimate about 15 years totally bald. All of the hairs that you see in the photographs are NEW. Only exception is the vellus hairs which began to sprout after I removed the rug 5 years ago and began using the usual topicals. The usual topicals didn’t do anything for me EXCEPT to grow vellus hair.
The rest of what I’m doing you can read in my current posts which I will be making whenever I have something to say. Hope this helps.