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#1

I have not been visiting these forums much lately.

So whats new guys?

I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but doesnt grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).

Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is. Is that right?

How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this forum. You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new info?


#2

» I have not been visiting these forums much lately.
»
» So whats new guys?
»
» I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it
» merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but doesnt
» grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).
»
» Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is.
» Is that right?
»
» How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this forum.
» You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new info?

The name of the forum is Hair Multiplication & New Hair Loss Research. All research is a pipe dream, no one is forcing you to read it.


#3

» I have not been visiting these forums much lately.
»
» So whats new guys?
»
» I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it
» merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but doesnt
» grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).
»
» Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is.
» Is that right?
»
» How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this forum.
» You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new info?

Does anyone know if there are any risks receiving PRP injections 2-3 times a year? Would it cause tumors?


#4

I think that tumors would be unlikely; it’s merely your own blood. The real question is whether it’s worth the pain of the dermaroller/ needles 2-3 times/ year.

If you want to worry about tumors… than worry about any WNT based therapy (ie histogen). Research has shown too much WNT cause benign hair tumors on mice.

» Does anyone know if there are any risks receiving PRP injections 2-3 times
» a year? Would it cause tumors?


#5

Welcome back debris. We really missed your morbid outlook on research.

» I have not been visiting these forums much lately.
»
» So whats new guys?
»
» I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it
» merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but doesnt
» grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).
»
» Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is.
» Is that right?
»
» How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this forum.
» You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new info?


#6

» Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is.

Time travelling will be here first


#7

You guys think you can determine that it’s decades away. But whenever someone holds up a scrap of info indicating something sooner, you say that we don’t know nearly enough to say anything either way.

So which is it? Do we know when HM likely to be coming or not?


#8

» » I have not been visiting these forums much lately.
» »
» » So whats new guys?
» »
» » I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it
» » merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but
» doesnt
» » grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).
» »
» » Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment
» is.
» » Is that right?
» »
» » How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this
» forum.
» » You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new
» info?
»
» Does anyone know if there are any risks receiving PRP injections 2-3 times
» a year? Would it cause tumors?

I know just a little about PRP, but seems much more safe than Follica.


#9

» I think that tumors would be unlikely; it’s merely your own blood. The real
» question is whether it’s worth the pain of the dermaroller/ needles 2-3
» times/ year.
»
» If you want to worry about tumors… than worry about any WNT based
» therapy (ie histogen). Research has shown too much WNT cause benign hair
» tumors on mice.
»
» » Does anyone know if there are any risks receiving PRP injections 2-3
» times
» » a year? Would it cause tumors?

Doh, histogen is WNT based as well? I thought follica was.


#10
  1. Follica’s “proof-of-concept” trial is nowhere-to-be-seen.
  2. Histogen creates a few hairs (on a thinning scalp), .

On the positive side:
4. ARI keeps recruiting volunteers for phase 2, with a pretty significant advertising campaign on newspapers.

» I have not been visiting these forums much lately.
»
» So whats new guys?
»
» I know now that PRP hype is over (read Chrome’s report where he says it
» merely stopped loss, for 6 months now for him, which is good, but doesnt
» grow new hair at all, just some minor thickening).
»
» Follica - I guess ppl here start to realize how far off the treatment is.
» Is that right?
»
» How about something actually new? I cant see any progress on this forum.
» You are talking about the same pipe dreams, is there really no new info?


#11

» Time travelling will be here first.
If that were true than my future self would advise present-me to stop wasting time responding to your posts.


#12

» » Time travelling will be here first.
» If that were true than my future self would advise present-me to stop
» wasting time responding to your posts.

Will your future-self also know the difference between “than” and “then”?

Because your present-self has trouble with that.


#13
  1. I will continue to think that HM may possibly be 5-8 years away until the Aderans project fails badly enough to indicate otherwise.

  2. I will continue to think that a practical HM method is probably coming in 10-15 years until the Folica project fails badly enough to indicate otherwise.

Of course Folica has not delivered a proof-of-concept yet, but the real world cases of the principle working are enough to sell me on it for now. They are early enough in the work for the lack of proof-of-concept to be understandable.

IMHO we don’t know enough about Histogen to say anything. But I am not very dazzled by what we know about the project so far.


#14

» Will your future-self also know the difference between “than” and “then”?
» Because your present-self has trouble with that.
My future-self would uphold the mantra that picking on people’s grammar (in a forum setting) is best reserved for the feeble minded, and meek.


#15

Cal,

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except that:

  1. I’m not sure Follica really qualifies as HM.

  2. I see both Follica and Histogen as two peas in a pod – they are immature “technologies” whose “inventors” don’t even fully understand, and these companies are willing to morph their “discoveries” any which way in order to get something out on the market, eventually. Right now they are far from crystallized into anything useful.

Both companies seem to be slick websites, high-powered boards of directors and scientific advisory boards, wedded to immature, unproven, uncertain technologies.

Aderans seems the most promising and credible thing on the horizon right now, but I agree with you, it will probably take 5-8 years for us to see anything on the market from them.


#16

» » Will your future-self also know the difference between “than” and
» “then”?
» » Because your present-self has trouble with that.
» My future-self would uphold the mantra that picking on people’s grammar
» (in a forum setting) is best reserved for the feeble minded, and meek.

Your future-self might uphold that mantra, but your present-self sure keeps putting its foot in its mouth.


#17

» but I agree with you, it will probably take 5-8 years for us to see
» anything on the market from them.
That’s funny, because earlier in this post you called Follica and Histogen liars.

» Your future-self might uphold that mantra, but your present-self sure
» keeps putting its foot in its mouth.
You were saying?


#18

» » but I agree with you, it will probably take 5-8 years for us to see
» » anything on the market from them.
» That’s funny, because earlier in this post you called Follica and Histogen
» liars.

Wasn’t it clear from that part of my post that I was talking about Aderans?


#19

» » » Will your future-self also know the difference between “than” and
» » “then”?
» » » Because your present-self has trouble with that.
» » My future-self would uphold the mantra that picking on people’s grammar
» » (in a forum setting) is best reserved for the feeble minded, and meek.
»
» Your future-self might uphold that mantra, but your present-self sure
» keeps putting its foot in its mouth.
Nothing’s clear with you… I’m still expecting you to throw Michael Jackson and Dr. Rassman into this conversation.


#20
  1. Follica’s “proof-of-concept” trial is nowhere-to-be-seen.
  2. Histogen creates a few hairs (on a thinning scalp), and they start to
    fall at the 5 months mark
    .
    WHERE’S YOUR PROOF?
    Didn’t I already warn you, several times, to stop spreading rumors, or did you forget?

On the positive side:
4. ARI keeps recruiting volunteers for phase 2, with a pretty significant
advertising campaign on newspapers.